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Old October 26th, 2009, 10:54 PM   #81
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So as far as a cam, should it be spec'd for a turbo or will a N/A cam do the job fairly effectively and safely? Reason I ask is I'm not going to be able to do it all at once.
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that is a good question too 9986paulk. idk does anyone know on that?
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Why remove the imrc's?? You know by doing so you will loose low end tq??
The windstar sounds like a good idea...with that intake I would set it up for a direct port nitrous setup...witch will be much safer and allow you to run a bigger shot. That with a nice cam and stock heads will keep you busy for a while.
Do you have upgraded gears and differential yet?? If not that should be the first mod along with a tune.
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Infact, I still need to get a part from you sir , get on AIM I haven't gotten any updates on the car lately!!
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So as far as a cam, should it be spec'd for a turbo or will a N/A cam do the job fairly effectively and safely? Reason I ask is I'm not going to be able to do it all at once.
Depends on what the car is being setup for. Usually nitrous likes the same cam specs as a supercharger. Turbo cam I would spec for peak hp around 6200rpm.Not real clear on your question though. Best thing to do is speak with the person who will be setting the cam up for you and tell them your plans.
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Why remove the imrc's?? You know by doing so you will loose low end tq??
The windstar sounds like a good idea...with that intake I would set it up for a direct port nitrous setup...witch will be much safer and allow you to run a bigger shot. That with a nice cam and stock heads will keep you busy for a while.
Do you have upgraded gears and differential yet?? If not that should be the first mod along with a tune.
when you get into high HP applications they have a tendency to not work properly and it is just one more thing that can go wrong. I talked to Tom about this subject and It is just one of those things that should be done when the lower intake is ported. and you won't lose enough low end to make a difference IMO.
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when you get into high HP applications they have a tendency to not work properly and it is just one more thing that can go wrong. I talked to Tom about this subject and It is just one of those things that should be done when the lower intake is ported. and you won't lose enough low end to make a difference IMO.
I would go with this on a blown car making 350+ but not for a nitorus setup that will be driven on the street. Besides the 03-04 cobra has them.
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ok, and how does the direct port nitrous injection work? I am lookin at a zex kit from am and that is a wet kit where it goes into the intake, how does the direct port work?
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Originally Posted by JTs03v6 View Post
I would go with this on a blown car making 350+ but not for a nitorus setup that will be driven on the street. Besides the 03-04 cobra has them.
i agree.

however if you are already porting the lower or getting one done it would be best to have them removed or port a 99-00 lower.
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IMRC's hurt more than they do help, especially when your trying to make power.... Find a 99v6 and race against an 02 tell me the difference....
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Originally Posted by ESG-642T View Post
IMRC's hurt more than they do help, especially when your trying to make power.... Find a 99v6 and race against an 02 tell me the difference....
Yep designed for the stock motor
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i have an 02 lol. Well should i just leave the imrc's then until i do some porting? and if i do delete them will my computer throw a code? if so can i adjust anything using the x3?
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yes just leave them for now.
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i have an 02 lol. Well should i just leave the imrc's then until i do some porting? and if i do delete them will my computer throw a code? if so can i adjust anything using the x3?
It will throw a code and run like crap under 3krpm...So yes you need to be tuned for it. You will need to add quite a bit of timing down low...more than you can with your user adjustments on your x-cal. So unless you know what you are doing You should have it tuned proffesionally.
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alright. thanks. ok well i will leave them for now. ok so im looking at getting the windstar upper here soon, and if i delete the egr will that throw a code, or can i do something about that. And how does that effect my car, i know that it has to do with recycled exhaust gases.
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alright. thanks. ok well i will leave them for now. ok so im looking at getting the windstar upper here soon, and if i delete the egr will that throw a code, or can i do something about that. And how does that effect my car, i know that it has to do with recycled exhaust gases.
If i remember right i think it will throw a code, i think my tuner just turned it off or something to that effect. I honestly can't remember.
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So as far as a cam, should it be spec'd for a turbo or will a N/A cam do the job fairly effectively and safely? Reason I ask is I'm not going to be able to do it all at once.
IMO talk to someone like Tom Y or anyone who deals with specing cams all the time. My personal opinion is to spec for what you want in the future. I have seen decent gains N/A from blower cam applications. May not be the most HP you can get from a cam, but you will gain more later when you do go blown.

my 219/224 cam is based closely after Toms supercharger cam. I am using less lift on the cam, because I have 1.8 Harland sharp RR's that put the lift back up to around .55.

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Ok thanks, maybe I will just get ahold of supersix or another site and see.
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Removing either the IRMC's or EGR system will throw codes, but I would highly advise getting a tuner and removing both the EGR system and the IRMC's. Just be sure to get the tuner first. Trust me.
Removing the EGR cleans up the look of the engine bay, not to mention it's a PITA when doing the winstar swap (speaking from experience of course), not to mention it covers the inside of your engine with carbon.
The IRMC's are known to fail, not to mention it's a PITA to try and port around them so if you want a good port job take them out if you are doing it yourself and do yourself a favor. I would highly recommend getting a 99-00 lower intake manifold if you are wanting to port it yourself since you won't have to worry about the IRMC's, just make sure if you are removing the EGR system to plug the EGR ports in the lower intake manifold too.
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IMO talk to someone like Tom Y or anyone who deals with specing cams all the time. My personal opinion is to spec for what you want in the future. I have seen decent gains N/A from blower cam applications. May not be the most HP you can get from a cam, but you will gain more later when you do go blown.

my 219/224 cam is based closely after Toms supercharger cam. I am using less lift on the cam, because I have 1.8 Harland sharp RR's that put the lift back up to around .55.

http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...RockerArms.pdf
Such a small, low lift camshaft .... But yes great advice!
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