[Bies08]

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/newv61552ins.htm

you think that could actually add that much?

[Cricket]

not worth the money. 1: throttle body spacer is pointless. 2: That throttle body isn't ported to match up with your stock intake manifold. 3: you can get a cai and a ported, polished, and half shafted throttle body for a lot cheaper than that. The TB will also be ported to your intake manifold. Really won't do much, but it's fun to have. I'm waiting on mine right now.

[Juggalo_X]

well you would have to get your intake boared out as well otherwise once it hits the manifold its only 65mm again and just reduces the flow again im guessing it will add hp but maybe not as much as they say.

[Cricket]

manufacturer claims are usually never gained, unless some weird twist of fate happens.

[GreenFaleen]

Just get a CaI you'll see the same gains.

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by Cricket manufacturer claims are usually never gained, unless some weird twist of fate happens.

yah no doubt, some times i think they just pull numbers from there ass...

[Cricket]

they have the cars in very controlled conditions, and usually have other mods on them.

[Steamboat 16]

you don't even have to get a cia, a hi po air filter gives you just as much power gains for alot less

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by Steamboat 16 you don't even have to get a cia, a hi po air filter gives you just as much power gains for alot less

+1 i was looking at my air system and i removed the silencer which i feel made a bit of a difference already in sound and a bit on throttle response im getting a k&n air filter as soon as its in i had to order it apparently no one carries them bastards lol but i think the factory air system is as good as an ebay CAI having my laptop hooked up to my car while driving the intake air temperature is already cold hell its winter lol it was reading -23*C IAT

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by Steamboat 16 you don't even have to get a cia, a hi po air filter gives you just as much power gains for alot less +1 i was looking at my air system and i removed the silencer which i feel made a bit of a difference already in sound and a bit on throttle response im getting a k&n air filter as soon as its in i had to order it apparently no one carries them bastards lol but i think the factory air system is as good as an ebay CAI having my laptop hooked up to my car while driving the intake air temperature is already cold hell its winter lol it was reading -23*C IAT

-1 Thats wrong. First of all its a CAI. The CIA is part of the Government here. A CAI is more beneficial, because of the larger tubing, and less air restrictions, and less turbulence causing more power. Putting just a new filter in there is the equivelent of putting a fart can muffler on stock tubing. It does nothing.

Also about the silencer. Most of those gains are psychological. Yes, more air is in there, but it really doesn't do much besides make more noise.

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by Cricket Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by Steamboat 16 you don't even have to get a cia, a hi po air filter gives you just as much power gains for alot less +1 i was looking at my air system and i removed the silencer which i feel made a bit of a difference already in sound and a bit on throttle response im getting a k&n air filter as soon as its in i had to order it apparently no one carries them bastards lol but i think the factory air system is as good as an ebay CAI having my laptop hooked up to my car while driving the intake air temperature is already cold hell its winter lol it was reading -23*C IAT -1 Thats wrong. First of all its a CAI. The CIA is part of the Government here. A CAI is more beneficial, because of the larger tubing, and less air restrictions, and less turbulence causing more power. Putting just a new filter in there is the equivelent of putting a fart can muffler on stock tubing. It does nothing. Also about the silencer. Most of those gains are psychological. Yes, more air is in there, but it really doesn't do much besides make more noise.

lol dude i never said CIA and the crisper response may very well be in my head lol i was just stating what i thought i felt. and i honestly don't see the restrictions in the stock system i mean i look at the stock system and i look at pictures of the CAI and they look like they are the same bends and such .

[GreenFaleen]

The CAI does do more than a filter I have done both and throttle response from the CAI is way better than with just a filter.

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen The CAI does do more than a filter I have done both and throttle response from the CAI is way better than with just a filter.

your probably right im getting one any how even if it didn't make a difference looks wise its much better

[GreenFaleen]

oh yeah it is