Vortech V2

JTs03v6 · February 25th, 2010, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by 9986paulk

OK, I was almost sure about the PCVs, but not about anything else...Like them evap line-Could I just run breathers on both valve covers then run the evap line pre-blower? I just think that would be a small boost leak.

Not going to leak boost by putting breathers on valve covers.

9986paulk · February 25th, 2010, 10:30 PM

No, I meant leaving the evap line hooked up to the manifold.
Oh and by the way, if I use my stock MAF with a MAFia, did you take out your little screen?

JTs03v6 · February 25th, 2010, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by 9986paulk

No, I meant leaving the evap line hooked up to the manifold.
Oh and by the way, if I use my stock MAF with a MAFia, did you take out your little screen?

You need to cap that...You can buy an assortment pack at the parts store to fit.

Take out the screen and gut the converters...or at least gut the rear long ones.

9986paulk · February 25th, 2010, 10:53 PM

I'm not sure were on the same page with that. I know I'll have to cap the PCV one on the manifold, but would it be a better idea to run the fuel evap line to before the blower instead of to the manifold where it is now? I just want to check before I do it. And yeah, I was considering taking one set of cats off at least since I'll have a lot more flow going through them. Thanks for all the help man!

JTs03v6 · February 25th, 2010, 11:13 PM

ok...fuel evap will be fine where it is.

9986paulk · March 16th, 2010, 11:17 PM

Alright here are a couple pics. And I'll just give the link to the whole thread on 3.8. I hate to always to it, but it's just so damn much easier for me to upload them over there, mine are always too big on here and I can't figure out how to resize them. Vortech V2 - Page 3 - 3.8 Mustang Message Board

But I got all done except the tuning, and the LC1 wideband from ebay for $188. I have a MAFia on the way, as funds ran a little short, so I couldn't get the 05+ from VMP. I just made my intake pipe out of 2 cold air intakes I cut, one of which I got for free. Now all is some cash to complete it, which I should get this weekend for my birthday. And I'd eventually like to move the battery to the trunk because I think it looks a lot cleaner. I made a lot of the stuff for it myself like the oil lines, intercooler mounting bracket, and some odds and ends. I also have the bumper support foam cut to be able to go behind the bumper cover with the bumper shimmed out for the intercooler. Now I'm ready to hear this thing run!

9986paulk · March 16th, 2010, 11:19 PM

I haven't ran the total yet, but I think it's close to $2500 with me getting some stuff free, fabbing some stuff, doing my own welding, and all the work. I'd like to get the springs installed this summer, when I have money for C/C plates, subframe connectors, new tires, and an alignment.
Supercharger and rebuild components: $1000
Camshaft and valvetrain components: $315
Gaskets/seals-$100
Intercooler and Piping: $210
HKS BOV-$130
Oil Pressure Gauge-$30
Boost/Vac Gauge-$50
Wideband-$190
Random shit-$100
Tune-$260-350
~$2500
I got the other stuff for free. And I drilled the oil pan with a 9/16 drill bit packed with grease and kept cleaning and re packing while I had air pressure in the oil drain to blow anything out. The made a bent pipe to attack to a sot vac to sweep out anything that might've fallen into the oil pan, but I didn't even see it pick anything up.

9986paulk · March 17th, 2010, 11:25 PM

Alright I will ave the money I need for my tune by saturday, from VMP I believe. I really wanted to dyno it now, but I don't have the money. And in a couple months when I do have the cash, it should only be $125 or so since it will already be tuned pretty well. And just got the LC1 wideband tonight for $187. The MAFia is on the way as well. Tomorrow I'll get the boost gauge and pod.

9986paulk · March 18th, 2010, 11:20 PM

Well I started the car for the 1st time in 4 months today since I just got the MAFia. I just put it on setting 0 because I'm still on the stock tune and it's fine cause it's just sitting in the garage. But the exaust sounds just about how I wanted it to, and I think it'll be better when the cats come off. Its deeper and louder, but the D idle has to be raised by probably 100rpm to keep it idling kind of smooth. Also it had a pretty noticeable ticking when I started it, which I'm assuming is a lifter or at most 2 on the passenger side. I just might pop off the valve cover tomorrow and give each one around 1/4 turn more of preload which will probably be about 31 ft-lb total. I think that's right about where SSMS says to set them. It did clear up all most all the way when it got up to operating temp though. I'm considering the possibility it could've been because the lifters were out and dry for so long. I think I only have them torqued to maybe 28 ft-lb, whatever it says in the ford workshop manual.
Now all I have to do is weld in the wideband bung, wire up my gauges (wideband, boost/vac, and oil pressure), and get the datalogging tune.

JTs03v6 · March 18th, 2010, 11:35 PM

Hell yeah...congrats

Definitly delete those cats...and my wide band is in the rear o2 spot...justin will turn these off in the tune anyways.

JTs03v6 · April 21st, 2010, 08:53 PM

How you coming along on this man?? Any good kill stories yet or dyno numbers??

9986paulk · April 21st, 2010, 09:45 PM

Well I think everything is set up correctly and any problems I'm experiencing are just tune related. Not positive on that, but I really can't tell it has been 2 weeks since I got my initial tune from justin, which I had to play with the A/F myself to find out where it needed to be so I could do a WOT datalog in 2nd with the A/F ratio @ about 12.7. The process is just taking a very long time, it takes a week just to get a reply. I kind of wish I just went to the dyno.
Anyway, the only real problem I'm having is a little stuttering under WOT. And it's almost gotta be from the same reason that it has that miss at idle. I mean it does pull hard though and I'm pretty happy with the car itself. Now I know what you meant by no traction at all on launches...and I still have a stock converter. But it's a thumbs up for the most part. I just want to get the exhaust done next with LT headers and replace the old cats w/ pipe since they're gutted.

9986paulk · April 21st, 2010, 09:47 PM

And btw I envy your 1/8 times and speed haha...that's about on track with one of the GT500s up to '10 according to my C&D magazine results in the back.

JTs03v6 · April 21st, 2010, 10:12 PM

I had to send him an ill message to get him to adjust my tune once. Message basiclly said either send me a new tune file or you will be receiving your product back. I bought the sct advantage software so it's all good now. I do my own tuning. Over all though I was happy with justins tune.

You are gonna need to run drag radials all the time to have any fun on the street...I hav to.

Yeah...the times are decent. I want to see bottom 7's now. Gonna buy either a transbrake or fully built c4 with full manual vb, custom stall, and transbrake from redneck performance.

9986paulk · April 21st, 2010, 10:23 PM

Yea it's not that I doubt his tuning abilities, it's just a pain in the ass to have to deal with him like that. I already sent 1 message that said to give me a partial refund of like $200 or get the job done. If he doesn't tomorrow I'm demanding a refund. I did see that software on therte to tune yourself, and if I'd known it was only that much more I would've done it. I just really want the car running right soon so I can really see how it performs.
The only other thing I might do when I ghet more money saved up is put on a little smaller pulley. Then I'll have money if I blow anything. But first I need to get my new tires, alignment, and C/C plates so I can get my pro kit on. But congrats man, I look forward to seeing more from your car.

ESG-642T · April 21st, 2010, 10:30 PM

Justin takes forever if you get a tune through him online with something like that. If your not in FL go to the dyno. Buy the time you foul out enough plugs and waste enough gas trying to remote tune it you will be close to what you would have spent on a dyno tune.

9986paulk · April 21st, 2010, 10:34 PM

Well I shouldn't be fouling out any plugs...if anything it runs a bit too lean at idle sometimes, like up to 19. It was enough to throw a system too lean code. At crusing it stays between 13 and 16 AFR and under WOT I have it at 12.7 right now with the tuner adjusted as much as possible to make it richer.

ESG-642T · April 21st, 2010, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by 9986paulk

Well I shouldn't be fouling out any plugs...if anything it runs a bit too lean at idle sometimes, like up to 19. At crusing it stays between 13 and 16 AFR and under WOT I have it at 12.7 right now with the tuner adjusted as much as possible to make it richer.

What do you have done to your ... timing?

9986paulk · April 21st, 2010, 10:38 PM

I didn't do anything to it, it's his base tune he gave me. He wanted me to do the run, but I couldn't with it the way it was. The 1st time I touched WOT it was at 16 so I got right out of it. I'm hoping he has the tiuming retarded and thats why it isn't running exactly right.

JTs03v6 · April 21st, 2010, 10:52 PM

He had like 4*global pulled from my tune to begin with.

February 25th, 2010, 11:13 PM	#45
JTs03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 mustang 7.48x1.56=11.67 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,218 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok...fuel evap will be fine where it is. __________________ New combo: Forged SC short Block,280cfm heads, Precision 6262 turbo, cx 31x12x3 fmic http://photobucket.com/JTsTurboBuild http://youtube.com/user/JTsStang

March 16th, 2010, 11:17 PM	#46
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	Alright here are a couple pics. And I'll just give the link to the whole thread on 3.8. I hate to always to it, but it's just so damn much easier for me to upload them over there, mine are always too big on here and I can't figure out how to resize them. Vortech V2 - Page 3 - 3.8 Mustang Message Board But I got all done except the tuning, and the LC1 wideband from ebay for $188. I have a MAFia on the way, as funds ran a little short, so I couldn't get the 05+ from VMP. I just made my intake pipe out of 2 cold air intakes I cut, one of which I got for free. Now all is some cash to complete it, which I should get this weekend for my birthday. And I'd eventually like to move the battery to the trunk because I think it looks a lot cleaner. I made a lot of the stuff for it myself like the oil lines, intercooler mounting bracket, and some odds and ends. I also have the bumper support foam cut to be able to go behind the bumper cover with the bumper shimmed out for the intercooler. Now I'm ready to hear this thing run! Last edited by 9986paulk; March 16th, 2010 at 11:34 PM.

March 16th, 2010, 11:19 PM	#47
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	I haven't ran the total yet, but I think it's close to $2500 with me getting some stuff free, fabbing some stuff, doing my own welding, and all the work. I'd like to get the springs installed this summer, when I have money for C/C plates, subframe connectors, new tires, and an alignment. Supercharger and rebuild components: $1000 Camshaft and valvetrain components: $315 Gaskets/seals-$100 Intercooler and Piping: $210 HKS BOV-$130 Oil Pressure Gauge-$30 Boost/Vac Gauge-$50 Wideband-$190 Random shit-$100 Tune-$260-350 ~$2500 I got the other stuff for free. And I drilled the oil pan with a 9/16 drill bit packed with grease and kept cleaning and re packing while I had air pressure in the oil drain to blow anything out. The made a bent pipe to attack to a sot vac to sweep out anything that might've fallen into the oil pan, but I didn't even see it pick anything up. Last edited by 9986paulk; March 16th, 2010 at 11:33 PM.

March 18th, 2010, 11:35 PM	#50
JTs03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 mustang 7.48x1.56=11.67 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,218 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hell yeah...congrats Definitly delete those cats...and my wide band is in the rear o2 spot...justin will turn these off in the tune anyways. __________________ New combo: Forged SC short Block,280cfm heads, Precision 6262 turbo, cx 31x12x3 fmic http://photobucket.com/JTsTurboBuild http://youtube.com/user/JTsStang

April 21st, 2010, 08:53 PM	#51
JTs03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 mustang 7.48x1.56=11.67 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,218 iTrader: 0 reviews	How you coming along on this man?? Any good kill stories yet or dyno numbers?? __________________ New combo: Forged SC short Block,280cfm heads, Precision 6262 turbo, cx 31x12x3 fmic http://photobucket.com/JTsTurboBuild http://youtube.com/user/JTsStang

February 25th, 2010, 10:30 PM	#42
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	No, I meant leaving the evap line hooked up to the manifold. Oh and by the way, if I use my stock MAF with a MAFia, did you take out your little screen?

February 25th, 2010, 10:53 PM	#44
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	I'm not sure were on the same page with that. I know I'll have to cap the PCV one on the manifold, but would it be a better idea to run the fuel evap line to before the blower instead of to the manifold where it is now? I just want to check before I do it. And yeah, I was considering taking one set of cats off at least since I'll have a lot more flow going through them. Thanks for all the help man!

March 17th, 2010, 11:25 PM	#48
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	Alright I will ave the money I need for my tune by saturday, from VMP I believe. I really wanted to dyno it now, but I don't have the money. And in a couple months when I do have the cash, it should only be $125 or so since it will already be tuned pretty well. And just got the LC1 wideband tonight for $187. The MAFia is on the way as well. Tomorrow I'll get the boost gauge and pod.

March 18th, 2010, 11:20 PM	#49
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	Well I started the car for the 1st time in 4 months today since I just got the MAFia. I just put it on setting 0 because I'm still on the stock tune and it's fine cause it's just sitting in the garage. But the exaust sounds just about how I wanted it to, and I think it'll be better when the cats come off. Its deeper and louder, but the D idle has to be raised by probably 100rpm to keep it idling kind of smooth. Also it had a pretty noticeable ticking when I started it, which I'm assuming is a lifter or at most 2 on the passenger side. I just might pop off the valve cover tomorrow and give each one around 1/4 turn more of preload which will probably be about 31 ft-lb total. I think that's right about where SSMS says to set them. It did clear up all most all the way when it got up to operating temp though. I'm considering the possibility it could've been because the lifters were out and dry for so long. I think I only have them torqued to maybe 28 ft-lb, whatever it says in the ford workshop manual. Now all I have to do is weld in the wideband bung, wire up my gauges (wideband, boost/vac, and oil pressure), and get the datalogging tune.

April 21st, 2010, 09:45 PM	#52
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	Well I think everything is set up correctly and any problems I'm experiencing are just tune related. Not positive on that, but I really can't tell it has been 2 weeks since I got my initial tune from justin, which I had to play with the A/F myself to find out where it needed to be so I could do a WOT datalog in 2nd with the A/F ratio @ about 12.7. The process is just taking a very long time, it takes a week just to get a reply. I kind of wish I just went to the dyno. Anyway, the only real problem I'm having is a little stuttering under WOT. And it's almost gotta be from the same reason that it has that miss at idle. I mean it does pull hard though and I'm pretty happy with the car itself. Now I know what you meant by no traction at all on launches...and I still have a stock converter. But it's a thumbs up for the most part. I just want to get the exhaust done next with LT headers and replace the old cats w/ pipe since they're gutted.

April 21st, 2010, 09:47 PM	#53
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	And btw I envy your 1/8 times and speed haha...that's about on track with one of the GT500s up to '10 according to my C&D magazine results in the back.

April 21st, 2010, 10:12 PM	#54
JTs03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 mustang 7.48x1.56=11.67 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,218 iTrader: 0 reviews	I had to send him an ill message to get him to adjust my tune once. Message basiclly said either send me a new tune file or you will be receiving your product back. I bought the sct advantage software so it's all good now. I do my own tuning. Over all though I was happy with justins tune. You are gonna need to run drag radials all the time to have any fun on the street...I hav to. Yeah...the times are decent. I want to see bottom 7's now. Gonna buy either a transbrake or fully built c4 with full manual vb, custom stall, and transbrake from redneck performance. __________________ New combo: Forged SC short Block,280cfm heads, Precision 6262 turbo, cx 31x12x3 fmic http://photobucket.com/JTsTurboBuild http://youtube.com/user/JTsStang

April 21st, 2010, 10:23 PM	#55
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	Yea it's not that I doubt his tuning abilities, it's just a pain in the ass to have to deal with him like that. I already sent 1 message that said to give me a partial refund of like $200 or get the job done. If he doesn't tomorrow I'm demanding a refund. I did see that software on therte to tune yourself, and if I'd known it was only that much more I would've done it. I just really want the car running right soon so I can really see how it performs. The only other thing I might do when I ghet more money saved up is put on a little smaller pulley. Then I'll have money if I blow anything. But first I need to get my new tires, alignment, and C/C plates so I can get my pro kit on. But congrats man, I look forward to seeing more from your car.

April 21st, 2010, 10:30 PM	#56
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,207 iTrader: 0 reviews	Justin takes forever if you get a tune through him online with something like that. If your not in FL go to the dyno. Buy the time you foul out enough plugs and waste enough gas trying to remote tune it you will be close to what you would have spent on a dyno tune. __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle

April 21st, 2010, 10:34 PM	#57
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	Well I shouldn't be fouling out any plugs...if anything it runs a bit too lean at idle sometimes, like up to 19. It was enough to throw a system too lean code. At crusing it stays between 13 and 16 AFR and under WOT I have it at 12.7 right now with the tuner adjusted as much as possible to make it richer.

April 21st, 2010, 10:38 PM	#59
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,228 iTrader: 3 reviews	I didn't do anything to it, it's his base tune he gave me. He wanted me to do the run, but I couldn't with it the way it was. The 1st time I touched WOT it was at 16 so I got right out of it. I'm hoping he has the tiuming retarded and thats why it isn't running exactly right.

April 21st, 2010, 10:52 PM	#60
JTs03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 mustang 7.48x1.56=11.67 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,218 iTrader: 0 reviews	He had like 4*global pulled from my tune to begin with. __________________ New combo: Forged SC short Block,280cfm heads, Precision 6262 turbo, cx 31x12x3 fmic http://photobucket.com/JTsTurboBuild http://youtube.com/user/JTsStang

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