[winnie51189]

Even with gears and tloc you will still get walked by stock GT. Besides the fact that most GT's are not stock, it takes quite a bit more work to beat a GT. I still don't pull on a GT and I have done the Windstar upper intake manifold swap, a 207/215 cam swap, and cold air intake. My car sounds like a bad ass six but sound doesn't make you fast. My v6 is a 2000 so it has split port to begin with so you would have to factor that in too. That's more power than you will make with regular boltons alone. Just saying it takes way more than you think even though on paper and mathematically it may not look like it.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by toxicat2 I understand that. With the weight difference which is only slight between the GT and the six, 220 Hp on mine should out pull a stock GT of the same year. It works out to something like power/weight ratio of 15 lbs per hp on The GT and 14 lbs per hp on the Six. With the gears and tlock installed it should run pretty close. Working up to 240-270 bhp on the six could pull lightly modded GT. And then if i decided to do forced induction from say, vortech, I could pull most anything that is stock.

A vortech on a single port would still get walked by alot of cars. And winnie your probably full exhaust and gears away from walking a gt.

[winnie51189]

Yea I know but I'm still not currently walking a GT

[Matt Stang]

just wondering, which would be faster 1/4. Nitrous and tuner or gears and lsd. They are about the same price but im thinking nitrous n tuner would blow it out of the water

[WLJohnson05]

Originally Posted by Matt Stang just wondering, which would be faster 1/4. Nitrous and tuner or gears and lsd. They are about the same price but im thinking nitrous n tuner would blow it out of the water

nitrous, it is a poweradder. thats not even a question really.

[toxicat2]

I wouldn't do that if I were u. I may just be old fashioned but I believe. In the motto all throttle no bottle. Maybe 220 might not be quite enough but the 300 I might be lookin at will. I may also do the rear seat delete and put racing seats in. Ill be upgrading tires and brakes as well. I may not smoke everything but it will still be fast as hell man. And I don't think I would be walked by a gt with the stuff I'm talkin about. May not win but should pull close

[Codeman]

I think if you have a manual tranny with gears, tlok, udp,exhaust,cai,tune,and the windstar you would take a gt. At least an auto gt. And i think maybe even a manual gt. It is just if you have an auto v6 it will be a lot A LOT tougher. I raced a 2000 v6 with tune,cai,dual exhaust and my car was the stock with a 5spd and i beat it.

[toxicat2]

My car is an auto. Some of you seem to be forgetting some of the mods. Like when guy said forced induction on single port wouldnt pull to hard. I did say I am going to do the split port. Heres what we are lookin at so far.

Split port swap, CAI, exhaust, long tube headers, UDP, gears, tlock, tune, possible go to a 4.2 with forged internals, and possibly forced induction.

That seems to me with just what im sure on a nice 230 or so bhp.

[9986paulk]

I would think that without the stroker or any forced induction you could be at ~215bhp.The cam and porting work is what'll get you the biggest gains, short of a power adder.

[ByPopularDemand]

Originally Posted by 00BlueMustang For gas milage it might it hurt on the highway, Ive heard everywhere from 1-3mpg lost.

My stang(auto) with 4.10's gets better gas mileage than my 5sp 1.8 eclipse on the freeway. It cruises at a lower rpm too.

Originally Posted by toxicat2 I just read something online that Im pretty sure is wrong but i wanna check anyway. will 4.10 gears reduce top speed drastically? this guy said about 80 is where it would top.

It will just take you quite a while longer to reach your top speed...Also with an auto youll likely run out of third gear so make sure OD is on.

Originally Posted by winnie51189 Even with gears and tloc you will still get walked by stock GT. Besides the fact that most GT's are not stock, it takes quite a bit more work to beat a GT. I still don't pull on a GT and I have done the Windstar upper intake manifold swap, a 207/215 cam swap, and cold air intake. My car sounds like a bad ass six but sound doesn't make you fast. My v6 is a 2000 so it has split port to begin with so you would have to factor that in too. That's more power than you will make with regular boltons alone. Just saying it takes way more than you think even though on paper and mathematically it may not look like it.

How much power do you think the uuper intake and cam added? is your car tuned? I could beat stockish GT's with the mods in my sig...Ive since taken off the u/d pulley and all the crazy codes cleared themselves, so im thinking I still could.

[winnie51189]

Not sure on how much power I'm making. I still baby it because I need to get it tuned but I'm waiting until I can get the exhaust done.

[toxicat2]

I decided to build the V6 instead of upgrade. It seems like it would be alot cooler to run a fast V6 then an 8. No around here has one, its all the 8's that get the attention. So heres what I decided on so far, tell me what you think.

Build it to a 4.2, that should be a nice increase over the 3.8.
Supercharger will eventually be added. Looking at 9 psi.
3.73 gears.
Split port.
UDP
Flowmaster exhaust with long tupe headers, high flow cat. True dual.
Aluminum flywheel.
Tuned.
Racing plugs and wires.
Upgraded suspension, brakes, tires.
Rear seat delete. Racing front seats.
May swith the auto to a manual, not sure on that yet.
Tlock diff.

[9986paulk]

That looks like a nice wish list haha. Now just get it done

[Codeman]

i like the manual tranny it is just my opinion. unless you have a c4 u want to put in a fully built car with a stall converter and a shift kit. otherwise i am a manual guy. They just give u more freedom and more power. and i think that sounds like a good to do list. I would definately get your heads p@p and your intakes, and a good cam too.

[02RedSixxer]

Def do split port first IMO, then gears, tloc, and tuner. Go SCT Xcal 3.

[toxicat2]

Yeah split is definetely first on the list. I dont know if I will do gears after that or take it 4.2. It seems like those two things will max what i should have saved up. Within a month I can do tlock and gears. Then Im gonna do the exhaust, CAI, and flywheel. Not sure where I will go from there.

[toxicat2]

Ive been thinking about it lately, and instead of building the v6 I am going to upgrade to a Gt. Its gonna be about 18 months before I have a nice down payment saved up. Im going with a 2005 Gt. I was thinking about going with a 1999 or so cobra, but the 05 gt makes just about the same power. And honestly, when u paint it yellow and throw some black racing stripes on it, its just too good to refuse. Next stop after that, Germany, Nuerburgring and autobahn.

[mooses]

Originally Posted by toxicat2 Ive been thinking about it lately, and instead of building the v6 I am going to upgrade to a Gt. Its gonna be about 18 months before I have a nice down payment saved up. Im going with a 2005 Gt. I was thinking about going with a 1999 or so cobra, but the 05 gt makes just about the same power. And honestly, when u paint it yellow and throw some black racing stripes on it, its just too good to refuse. Next stop after that, Germany, Nuerburgring and autobahn.

Yeah, those 3v do make some good power. Unfortunately, 4v exhaust >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3v

edit: even a 2v sounds better than the 3v