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Old February 17th, 2007, 12:51 PM   #1
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staight line performance or track performance???


ok should i just get a s/c for 4K or should i get a Power pack and make my car handle great with a good suspencion?
 
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power is no good without the suspension to handle it.
 
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Go with the suspension and stiffin your car up so theirs no flex.
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well it matters again you want power but do you want a suspension set up for drag or road racing if you have a daily driver car don't set up your suspension for drag or you'll have a ruff time driving on the street.
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set it up for track racing, it's way mor fun than the strip
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id get the poweradder/fuel upgrades before bolt on stuff. you will notice much more of a difference
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im diggin the sig AB

but as far as a suspension, upgrades would help but i dont think it plays as big a roll as everyone thinks. theres a fox on jus DR's running 7.4 on stock suspenion.


a power pak wont help with handling so you know...

and actually im gonna have to go an say get a power pak and bolts ons and a tlok and gears. the overall sound, performance and everything will be a great set up. then a little later forged the internals if you'd like and throw on the s/c.

if you throw on a s/c, unless its 5psi or 7psi....which IMO wont be worth $4k cuz it'll probably stack up to a power pak or even be slower i'd think. with a 11psi you run the risk of your internals and rear end.

with a 5psi or 7psi your still gonna need a tlok, and gears. a few bolt ons, fuel pump, injectors, tires to keep everythin all nice.
either way your spending money

my vote is power pak and bolt ons
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BUT i wouldnt just get full bolt ons and stop there....power pak for sure
or bolt ons a s/c with lower psi
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thanks chris!

i am on the fence, but powerpak gets you 260rwhp. an 8 psi procharger can get you 300rwhp easy, and it is a quicker mod to install and tune... but you wont have the sound or strength of a motor with just a poweradder. and it would need to come off and be retuned if you forged and stroked the motor later... so depends on what you want and how much power you plan.

if you plan big power, powerpak, full bolt ons, 8.8 rear, and then poweradder. if you want about 300, s/c and t-lok/gears will make you happy
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Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99
thanks chris!

i am on the fence, but powerpak gets you 260rwhp. an 8 psi procharger can get you 300rwhp easy, and it is a quicker mod to install and tune... but you wont have the sound or strength of a motor with just a poweradder. and it would need to come off and be retuned if you forged and stroked the motor later... so depends on what you want and how much power you plan.

if you plan big power, powerpak, full bolt ons, 8.8 rear, and then poweradder. if you want about 300, s/c and t-lok/gears will make you happy
true, idk either way he chooses wont be too cheap. heck he could even get a turbo from tma, put it at 4.4psi with no fuel upgrades and have the same power as a power pak which would be like 240rwhp and 250rwtq.

but no matter what eventually you'll want more...you get a turbo and you see someone or hear somone say na man upgrade the fuel get it at 10psi. then you see the gain and want more

same with a s/c, you might not wana stop at 8psi, so you swap the pullley to 11lb pulley but your gunna have other troubles..

and a power pak IMO is really a mod for somone that plans on getting a fast v6 with a power adder like, nitrous, s./c or turbo after.

all motor on a v6 isnt impressive unless you spend serious money and get a carb set up and a 4.2L engine etc...and even then i cant imagine that car seeing anything lower then 12s


modding isnt cheap
if you wana have fun for now

a procharger or vortech s/c at 7psi will deffinitly do that.
so will a turbo. IMO for the money, and if your gonna need to upgrade your fuel setup anyway, better off visiting tma get a race kit or a street kit and put it at 8-10psi and have over 330 rwhp.

here's some qoutes from the page:
"Narcosis Makes 333rwhp and 374 rwtq at 10.5 psi of boost in his automatic t3/t4 60-1 trim .82 turbine turbo."

"Sai's new track times at 8 psi. 13.4 with a 2.3 60ft at 110mph trap. Also vids of the drag track race. link is here. Definetly a lot of potential with a better launch and posi "
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02/17/06 - The tma turbo shops car has new dyno numbers for my gt40r ball bearing race kit at 10.3 psi. 335rwhp and 390rwtq. graph and vids on dyno and media section."


procharger makes a nice s/c as well

so many choices you can choose from

me personally i like turbos
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Originally Posted by itschristorres8
with a 11psi you run the risk of your internals and rear end.
do u run the same risk of damaging something on your car if u use a twin turbo set up? thats what id like to get in a couple years.. my ultimate goal is to have something on the higher end of 300hp.. just planning out right now, though, cuz i dont have the money yet
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well i think 11 psi on a s/c aint gonna kill me. they do kick in at higher rpms so if u keep it under 2500 rpm it wont do much and the car will be fine. on of my friends has a supercharged v6 camaro and his cars fine. no forged internals and he had a s/c on for a good 3 years and the cars still in one piece.
 
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Originally Posted by itschristorres8
Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99
thanks chris!

i am on the fence, but powerpak gets you 260rwhp. an 8 psi procharger can get you 300rwhp easy, and it is a quicker mod to install and tune... but you wont have the sound or strength of a motor with just a poweradder. and it would need to come off and be retuned if you forged and stroked the motor later... so depends on what you want and how much power you plan.

if you plan big power, powerpak, full bolt ons, 8.8 rear, and then poweradder. if you want about 300, s/c and t-lok/gears will make you happy
true, idk either way he chooses wont be too cheap. heck he could even get a turbo from tma, put it at 4.4psi with no fuel upgrades and have the same power as a power pak which would be like 240rwhp and 250rwtq.

but no matter what eventually you'll want more...you get a turbo and you see someone or hear somone say na man upgrade the fuel get it at 10psi. then you see the gain and want more

same with a s/c, you might not wana stop at 8psi, so you swap the pullley to 11lb pulley but your gunna have other troubles..

and a power pak IMO is really a mod for somone that plans on getting a fast v6 with a power adder like, nitrous, s./c or turbo after.

all motor on a v6 isnt impressive unless you spend serious money and get a carb set up and a 4.2L engine etc...and even then i cant imagine that car seeing anything lower then 12s


modding isnt cheap
if you wana have fun for now

a procharger or vortech s/c at 7psi will deffinitly do that.
so will a turbo. IMO for the money, and if your gonna need to upgrade your fuel setup anyway, better off visiting tma get a race kit or a street kit and put it at 8-10psi and have over 330 rwhp.

here's some qoutes from the page:
"Narcosis Makes 333rwhp and 374 rwtq at 10.5 psi of boost in his automatic t3/t4 60-1 trim .82 turbine turbo."

"Sai's new track times at 8 psi. 13.4 with a 2.3 60ft at 110mph trap. Also vids of the drag track race. link is here. Definetly a lot of potential with a better launch and posi "
13.4 with 1 wheel spinning on stock tires... IMPRESSIVE

TMA's car:
"3/19/06 - The TMA TURBO shops car runs a 12.7 at a blistering 114 mph trap speed with a 2.0 60ft on drag radials. Not bad for the first time at the track with only 2 passes total on the shops car. Video in the media section.

02/17/06 - The tma turbo shops car has new dyno numbers for my gt40r ball bearing race kit at 10.3 psi. 335rwhp and 390rwtq. graph and vids on dyno and media section."


procharger makes a nice s/c as well

so many choices you can choose from

me personally i like turbos
my 60' is .2 better than the 13-second car and only .1 worse than the 12-second car. gears/t-lok are the best mod to couple with any other mod. but you cant run a 13 with bolt ons in full trim. you will need a powerpak or poweradder...
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