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February 19th, 2007, 03:23 AM	#1
Shelby0767 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 40	Here we go.... Alright, first off this is my first post (though I've read through a lot of forum articles here). I've really come to respect the insight you guys have (and the complete lack of bs is really nice....). Anyway, back to the question: I've got me a 2000 mustang v6, complete with K&N CAI and a Diablosport Tuner. Now it's time for the exhaust. Seeing how there is no point to put in a midpipe (even firing engines may sound ricey, but they do have their good points....), I've narrowed down some exhaust options and need some opinions. Keep in mind that performance is first, and exhaust note second (but a close second nonetheless). I also want to stay 50 state legal (most likely gonna end up living in California at some point in my life). We've got: Flowmaster 40 Catback (Sound amazing) Pypes Catback w/ Pro-V's (Sound amazing) GT Takeoff's w/ no midpipe (Sound not so amazing....) (I guess there is also the possibility of taking off the y connection on both the Pypes and Flowmasters and have them run without a midpipe, but I'm having a shop do the install and I want the process to be reasonable) If there are other catbacks that you would recommend that is fine, but I need to price to be under $400 (including shipping to MN). Please also keep in mind I DO NOT have the GT rear bumper, so if that poses a problem to anything I've posted please let me know. Thanks guys for all your help!

February 19th, 2007, 04:29 AM	#2
Youngin Hip Hop Artist 2007 Mustang v6 11.47@120.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Californ-i-A Posts: 3,547	well i would say MAC or even borla's are nice . i would prefer Borla over flowmasters anytime but alot of people would disagree __________________ http://www.myspace.com/moddedmustangz Modded Mustang's Song Song #2 In Teh Werkz

February 19th, 2007, 11:02 AM

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I will have to disagree with you bud on the part where you said there is no point for a midpipe. A midpipe will give you better flow, more power, and a better sound.

The only thing about a midpipe is it doesn't matter if you have an x or an h.

If you want a supercharger, all motor, or nitrous I would do this setup.

Long tube headers, catted shorty h-pipe, and a catback of your choice.

If you are going with turbo, or just want something different than most setups.

Shorty headers, catted h-pipe, and catback of your choice.

I chose to go with a MAC catback, and I have a mac catted h-pipe on it's way.

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February 19th, 2007, 11:26 AM

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what every one think of the new cherry bomb mufflers i saw on hoarse power tv on Sunday? supposed to be new design one inlet 2 outlets so you can gave 4 tail pipes. glass packed straight through design.

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February 19th, 2007, 11:27 AM	#5
xxrals22xx Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: saco, ME Posts: 429	glass packs are loud and cause back pressure not a good choice IMO __________________ http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...tattoos_-1.jpg

February 19th, 2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xxrals22xx

glass packs are loud and cause back pressure not a good choice IMO

they are straight through designed mufflers so the glass pack will help make up for the lost back pressure there no back pressure is just as bad as to much.

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February 19th, 2007, 12:40 PM	#7
AtlanticBlue99 The Nice Guy 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UGA Posts: 8,251	I would suggest mac long tube headers, a short off road H pipe and mac cat back for the same year GT. you could pay a shop to install, but these all bolt on with 10 bolts and hangers... it is a 5 hour complete job including full exhaust from factory to modified. you will make the most power with long tube headers, and you will be much louder without catalytic converters. and you will sound decent with mac. you will make the most power with magnaflow though. btw, i have a glasspack style muffler that is louder than most modded GT's. i run mac long tubes, short off road H pipe, and magnapack cat back. __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

February 19th, 2007, 12:45 PM	#8
Bies08 Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manhattan, Kansas Posts: 760	Now that i think about glasspacks they sounded SICK on my dads truck.....how woudl they sound compared to flowmaster 40s __________________ If you aren't first.....your last! http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...7_19/Bsig2.jpg

February 19th, 2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bies08

Now that i think about glasspacks they sounded SICK on my dads truck.....how woudl they sound compared to flowmaster 40s

they all sound shitty on a stock cammed essex v6. flowmasters sound real "tinny" up top, but sound great cruising. here is what mine sounds like:

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February 19th, 2007, 01:07 PM

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this is the new cherry bomb i was considering it sounded amazing on Hoarse Power TV and its dirt cheap

http://www.cherrybomb.com/vortex-mufflers.html

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February 19th, 2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Juggalo_X

this is the new cherry bomb i was considering it sounded amazing on Hoarse Power TV and its dirt cheap

http://www.cherrybomb.com/vortex-mufflers.html

Thats also just the muffler, and also your hearing these on v8 engines. Cherry bombs have been around for a long time, but lost popularity. They are good mufflers, but I'm not too sure you would like it on a v6.

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February 19th, 2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cricket

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X

this is the new cherry bomb i was considering it sounded amazing on Hoarse Power TV and its dirt cheap

http://www.cherrybomb.com/vortex-mufflers.html

Thats also just the muffler, and also your hearing these on v8 engines. Cherry bombs have been around for a long time, but lost popularity. They are good mufflers, but I'm not too sure you would like it on a v6.

never know guess ill have to be the guinea pig lol

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February 19th, 2007, 03:30 PM	#13
Shelby0767 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 40	From what I've reseached the only thing a midpipe will do is balance out exhaust gases from an engine that is not even firing. Hence, adding a midpipe will add little to no performance gains to my v6. However, adding high flow cats will add quite a bit (and still allow the car to be 50 state legal, which is always nice). Speaking strictly for performance (and $ concerns) I think I may go w/ high flow cats that run directly to the pypes dual catback (no midpipe, straight through piping). If I do my math right (and trust the performance numbers given) I should be boosted another 15-20 hp, which is exactly what I was looking for (not to mention the new roar....). What do you guys think?

February 19th, 2007, 03:51 PM	#14
Shelby0767 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 40	One thing to keep in mind is the fact that the mufflers from Pypes are "straight through" mufflers. Will straight through piping to "straight through" mufflers sound mean, or ricey (relatively speaking... it's always gonna be a v6). __________________ Current Performance Mods: K&N FIPK II CAI, Pacesetter H-Pipe, Pypes True-Dual Street-Pro Cat-Back, and SCT Excalibrator II Tuner. "Go-Baby-Go"

February 19th, 2007, 10:29 PM	#15
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February 19th, 2007, 11:08 PM	#16
02ponypackage MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,420	when it comes down to it....if you want a turbo setup u can still use longtubes....because they have two turbo kits available to be used either by the rear bumper or in the side scoop next to the door.......if u want it in the engine bay then shortys if N/A, Nitrous, or Supercharged Long tubes x pipe with the big power adders helps.... h pipe for the sound N/A over the Xpipe exhaust Flowmasters, MAC, Magnaflow thats all I would recommend in that order __________________ just a V6 with a bad belt slip under the hood

February 20th, 2007, 01:49 AM	#17
Shelby0767 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 40	OMG, I am a moron. Everyone keeps saying use Macs, and right now I have a single Flowpath muffler on my car (swapped it when I first got my stang about a year ago and forgot about it entirely!). So, if I buy a second mac 2 1/4 muffler (2.5 is too much for my system, and I doubt I will be going much further) and then just ask the shop to make me dual exhausts with a custom h-pipe, I should be all set to go! Wow... college, work, and hobbies... one of these things has to go.... __________________ Current Performance Mods: K&N FIPK II CAI, Pacesetter H-Pipe, Pypes True-Dual Street-Pro Cat-Back, and SCT Excalibrator II Tuner. "Go-Baby-Go"

February 20th, 2007, 09:38 AM	#18
Shelby0767 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 40	If I buy the second mac muffler and two exhaust tips how much do you guys think it would cost for them to make me a 2.25'' system with an h-pipe (I think the local shops charges $100/hr)? __________________ Current Performance Mods: K&N FIPK II CAI, Pacesetter H-Pipe, Pypes True-Dual Street-Pro Cat-Back, and SCT Excalibrator II Tuner. "Go-Baby-Go"

February 20th, 2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Shelby0767

If I buy the second mac muffler and two exhaust tips how much do you guys think it would cost for them to make me a 2.25'' system with an h-pipe (I think the local shops charges $100/hr)?

would be cheaper to buy an aftermarket off road pipe that is higher quality mandrel bent stainless steel in your case. it is a bolt on

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February 20th, 2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelby0767

OMG, I am a moron. Everyone keeps saying use Macs, and right now I have a single Flowpath muffler on my car (swapped it when I first got my stang about a year ago and forgot about it entirely!). So, if I buy a second mac 2 1/4 muffler (2.5 is too much for my system, and I doubt I will be going much further) and then just ask the shop to make me dual exhausts with a custom h-pipe, I should be all set to go! Wow... college, work, and hobbies... one of these things has to go....

A midpipe will give you more gains than you think, and is also a good support mod for future mods. Seeing as how your going into a larger diameter piping, a more efficient way of having the exhaust gasses flow, and less backpressure. Anything is better than the stock y-pipe you have now. You can use whatever catback you want since those won't give you any gains really. Why are you just gonna buy a muffler? Why not buy a catback, a new midpipe, and some headers? Those will give you the most beneficial gains.

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