[Wataru]

Ladies and Gentleman..

Finding I have a nice high credit score and can easily get bank loans (yay!), Im debating which mod would be better for daily driver who wants a nice top line performance from his V6

Option 1:
ASP 25% pulley from LMPPerformance.com + VAP Intake Spacer.
Cost: $290 + Install

Option 2: Winstar Intake
Cost: $450 + Install

I do not street race, nor do I want to. I just want more giddy-up and vroooom on the interstate when I decide to hit up Tampa every few weeks for Rays games.

Pros? Cons? Which would you do?

[lcorriveau3]

My opinion is option #1. Add a tuner and you will have enough................for a little while. Everybody will always say you will want more.

[Wataru]

Originally Posted by lcorriveau3 My opinion is option #1. Add a tuner and you will have enough................for a little while. Everybody will always say you will want more.

A Con would be, as Ive already asked Steve at VAP - unless I have an aftermarket hood (which I dont), you cant use the spacer and Windstar at the same time. So either Id have to spend $400 for a hood, or lose a $100 spacer for a $450 Windstar to gain 2HP.

[lcorriveau3]

So you can't use the spacer with stock upper with stock hood?

[Wataru]

Originally Posted by lcorriveau3 So you can't use the spacer with stock upper with stock hood?

You cant use the spacer + Windstar with a stock hood.

[lcorriveau3]

Oh, Ok. I was confused there. I have considered the spacer. So I was worried there for a moment. LOL!

[Matt.]

windstar will make the most out of your mods to come. But if I where you get a tuner it will help with all future mods, aswell as give as much power as those if you run a higher octane. Get the SCT tuner for 375 off Americanmuscle.com

[Wataru]

Originally Posted by lcorriveau3 Oh, Ok. I was confused there. I have considered the spacer. So I was worried there for a moment. LOL!

That's one of my cons...

If I go with option 1, then decide to goto option 2 later, I have to either remove the space and lose a $100 mod, or add a $400 hood.

[ESG-642T]

Windstar + UDP.

[WLJohnson05]

Originally Posted by Wataru Ladies and Gentleman.. Finding I have a nice high credit score and can easily get bank loans (yay!), Im debating which mod would be better for daily driver who wants a nice top line performance from his V6 Option 1: ASP 25% pulley from LMPPerformance.com + VAP Intake Spacer. Cost: $290 + Install Option 2: Winstar Intake Cost: $450 + Install I do not street race, nor do I want to. I just want more giddy-up and vroooom on the interstate when I decide to hit up Tampa every few weeks for Rays games. Pros? Cons? Which would you do?

CON: using a bank loan to pay for car mods.
just do some saving.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by WLJohnson05 CON: using a bank loan to pay for car mods. just do some saving.

I would have but I hate pointing that out all day.

[Wataru]

Originally Posted by WLJohnson05 CON: using a bank loan to pay for car mods. just do some saving.

Actually my last two banks loans have helped my credit score since I started rebuilding it last June. The 2nd one, Im going to pay off in 2 weeks so I can get another >D

[WLJohnson05]

Originally Posted by Wataru Actually my last two banks loans have helped my credit score since I started rebuilding it last June. The 2nd one, Im going to pay off in 2 weeks so I can get another >D

still...borrowing money for something like that is just not smart in general. i mean for example...last week a piece in the well here at my parents house that does something with the air in it went out. lost all water in the house. they had someone come out and fix it that morning, but can you guess what the bill was for replacing the part? about $450 bucks. Now my stepdad makes plenty of money so this is really not a problem for them, but if they were tight on money and had to continue to make payments on a loan they pulled out for something dumb like car mods then something like that could be hard to pay off.

the point im trying to make is that something could come up without warning and you need that loan or payment to take care of it, but instead that money will be going towards paying off car mods and can put you in between a rock and a hard place.

its just not good practice.

[clidefr0g]

If ur gonna get a loan to mod ur car get a supercharger or a turbo and call it a day. Dont bother with the spacer. The spacer is a waste of money and the windstar gives u a CAI AND a new intake all in one that doesn't suck. The spacer will only give you gains at one point during your RPM's where as the windstar gives you gains throughout the whole range and when you add more mods to it its gains keep increasing due to better flow through the intake.

[Mr. Red Pony]

Windstar plus UD plus tuner plus gears plus t-lok plus roller rockers

[Mr. Red Pony]

Originally Posted by WLJohnson05 still...borrowing money for something like that is just not smart in general. i mean for example...last week a piece in the well here at my parents house that does something with the air in it went out. lost all water in the house. they had someone come out and fix it that morning, but can you guess what the bill was for replacing the part? about $450 bucks. Now my stepdad makes plenty of money so this is really not a problem for them, but if they were tight on money and had to continue to make payments on a loan they pulled out for something dumb like car mods then something like that could be hard to pay off. the point im trying to make is that something could come up without warning and you need that loan or payment to take care of it, but instead that money will be going towards paying off car mods and can put you in between a rock and a hard place. its just not good practice.

I agree completely. I save up. So if I ever need it I have a nice wad of cash. Car mods aren't need. Any you can alway get that money back with more saving.

[v6kid]

ok now.. the guy didn't come here to be taught how to use his loan.

I would say udp + spacer.... but the udp/ spacer will cost more than that 290- you forgot to figure in the price of a shorter serpentine belt

If your funds can handle it, I would say to get the udp + windstar(or tuner) and do the install yourself.. they are both pretty forward installs.. really easy

[mcqueen]

I'm going to hop on board with the UDP and Windstar. You say there's a possibility that if you go with the spacer, you'll want to do the Windstar swap eventually. So your choices at that point would be buy an aftermarket hood or lose money on the spacer. So why bother with the spacer? Just get the Windstar kit now, combine with UDPs, and call it a day. No worrying about buying a different hood or losing money on a mod (well you'll lose money on every mod, but that's a little different).

[Wataru]

So Ive made a decision...

Im going to go with the spacer and UDP for now. If I decide down the road Id like alittle more HP, I'll remove the space and go with the Windstar and I can address the purchase of a new hood if I decide to put the spacer and Windstar in at the same time when/if I decide to go that way..

About the loan - what I like about the loans is, the loans are through my bank and I am ATTEMPTING to rebuild my credit. About a year or so ago, Chase bought WAMU and took my WAMU card and went from 8% APR to 21%. So I said goodbye to WAMU and canceled the card and paid off the balance. Sadly, this hurt my credit and Chase decided to cancel my OTHER Chase card (which was a HESS gas card I used for work) and Capital One did the same. The ol' "you owe more then you have in credit". I find that odd since I was trying to get OUT of debt to 3 people (which wasnt that much but I found the APR jump to be unethical). So my score went from 700 to 500 almost overnight.

Two loans later with my bank (because theyre easy to pay back) and a bank credi card, Im back upto 674. Credit Unions FTW!

Anyhow....its Modded MUSTANGS, not Modded CREDIT SCORES so...

I appreciate everyones advice.

[stangcharger]

Get windstar. Your chosen option keeps you with stock intake unless you get a new hood. Stock upper is a bad design and the torque gained from the windstar and future proof of it out weighs what you will make now.

I have a windstar with ported lower going for 500rwhp. Just saying. You can always get udp later. Porting cut and weld style on the stock upper is more money than a windstar kit and isn't as good of an intake.