Engine rebuild questions

red stang · April 10th, 2006, 01:15 PM

I am looking into some stroker kits and possible new engines. What would some high performance routes be without breaking the bank roll? And if any sites are known with good info or prices please post.

Bossman351 · April 10th, 2006, 01:20 PM

There are a lot of different ways to go but with out knowing what kind of budget youre on (if its not too personal) It would hard to make an affordable recomendation.

99mustang232 · April 10th, 2006, 02:21 PM

a cheaper route in building a v6 stroker would be to use the 4.2L f150 v6 block and the stroker kit so you don't have to get the machine work done and top that off with your SPI heads

here is a list of shops that sell 3.8 related parts;

http://www.rpm-mustangs.com
http://www.supersixmotorsports.com
http://www.moranav6racing.com
http://www.vmptuning.com
http://www.delkperformance.com
http://www.livernoismotorsports.com
http://www.coymiller.com
http://www.tmaturbo.com

AtlanticBlue99 · April 10th, 2006, 03:31 PM

supersix motorsports has great 4.2L and 4.3L stroker kits making 260rwhp n/a. they are costly though. delkperformance and vmptuning have guys who can point you in the right direction. hell, matthew neuhart form delk perf. just ran a 9.85 last weekend in his 6cyl. of course he is forced induction, but these motors have a strong block.

red stang · April 10th, 2006, 04:50 PM

I have about $3000 tops to spend. what are the options?

AtlanticBlue99 · April 10th, 2006, 04:54 PM

n/a 4.3L stroker kit from supersixmotorsports. makes 260rwhp safely and naturally aspirated. look at their site and look at the power packs they have for the stroker kits

red stang · April 11th, 2006, 10:23 AM

supersixmotorsports has some great deals and i think im gonna go with that. If it sayse it adds up to 80-90 HP why dont more people do it?

Roadhawg · April 11th, 2006, 11:16 AM

Because you will find there are alot more talkers than doers................

Drgnracin72 · April 11th, 2006, 11:25 AM

and its not the cheapest way to make power!

fakesaleen · April 11th, 2006, 02:07 PM

find a wrecked gt

red stang · April 12th, 2006, 04:48 PM

If i could find a wrecked GT what would i all need to use. The trannys wont match up so i would need to take the whole engine and tranny out of both cars and swap in the new GT stuff. Or could i use certain parts of the GT engine to pump up my 6r.

173speed · April 12th, 2006, 05:57 PM

if u go that rout i would get the motor with the harness i think that u would need it , transmission ,and rear

red stang · April 12th, 2006, 07:13 PM

how much do u think all of that would cost if i found a wrecked gt

turp · April 12th, 2006, 07:52 PM

The time swapping everything over and the price of the wrecked GT...

baseballplayhard · July 15th, 2006, 02:23 PM

Hey if you use the 4.2 Engine do you have to change all the computers and wiring harnesses or will the 3.8 computer work. And if I want to use a turbo whta do I have to do to the engine?

turp · July 15th, 2006, 05:05 PM

Yes the 4.2 motor will need the proper ECU to run. I am not very sure whether or not the wiring harness will work but I would venture a guess that it will not. If you are wanting to run a Turbo setup you need to look first and foremost at the engine internals. Are they forged? will they hold up? How much boost pressure will be running through the system and just how much can the internals take and still be safe.

baseballplayhard · July 15th, 2006, 08:23 PM

When using the stroker kit do you just get the new crank and rods and put them in and thats it?

99mustang232 · July 15th, 2006, 10:47 PM

i have seen a 2000 v6 stock motor, new headgaskets, intercooled twin-turbo kit, j-mod 4r70w run with a safe tune run 400+hp at 17psi with no problems. so there is some strength to the stock motor, but the stock motor is not setup right to make the most out of the f/i.

you have several options on the stroker kit, getting one from supersix, morana or rpm-mustangs... each of their kits vary on what additional parts are offered. the other option is to go with make your own stroker kit. since your using a used block and looking to spend good money an a rotating assembly you will want to take your block to a machine shop for some work and clearance checking,

some things to consider;

overbore- if you are starting with a used block then you are gonna atleast have to get the block bored 0.010, but 0.030 being most popular

stroke- 3.8, 4.2, 4.3, 4.6? the connecting rods determine the height of your piston

piston style- 89-98 3.8 single port, 99-04 3.8s ,97-04 4.2s split-port

cr- 8.0:1 through 11:1

rings

rods- i-beam or h-beams, forged or cast? 351w or customs?

rod journal- bearing sizes

April 10th, 2006, 01:15 PM	#1
red stang Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Menasha, Wi. Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 reviews	Engine rebuild questions I am looking into some stroker kits and possible new engines. What would some high performance routes be without breaking the bank roll? And if any sites are known with good info or prices please post.

April 10th, 2006, 01:20 PM	#2
Bossman351 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: On the trailer.......broke. Posts: 1,258 iTrader: 0 reviews	There are a lot of different ways to go but with out knowing what kind of budget youre on (if its not too personal) It would hard to make an affordable recomendation. __________________

April 10th, 2006, 03:31 PM	#4
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	supersix motorsports has great 4.2L and 4.3L stroker kits making 260rwhp n/a. they are costly though. delkperformance and vmptuning have guys who can point you in the right direction. hell, matthew neuhart form delk perf. just ran a 9.85 last weekend in his 6cyl. of course he is forced induction, but these motors have a strong block. __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

April 10th, 2006, 04:54 PM	#6
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	n/a 4.3L stroker kit from supersixmotorsports. makes 260rwhp safely and naturally aspirated. look at their site and look at the power packs they have for the stroker kits __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

April 11th, 2006, 11:16 AM	#8
Roadhawg Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 431 iTrader: 0 reviews	Because you will find there are alot more talkers than doers................ __________________ 2003 Mustang Mach1 1995 Thunderbird LX 4.6L; 1995 Mustang 4.2L; Eaton MPX Supercharger, 11.61 @ 118mph

April 10th, 2006, 02:21 PM	#3
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,745 iTrader: 0 reviews	a cheaper route in building a v6 stroker would be to use the 4.2L f150 v6 block and the stroker kit so you don't have to get the machine work done and top that off with your SPI heads here is a list of shops that sell 3.8 related parts; http://www.rpm-mustangs.com http://www.supersixmotorsports.com http://www.moranav6racing.com http://www.vmptuning.com http://www.delkperformance.com http://www.livernoismotorsports.com http://www.coymiller.com http://www.tmaturbo.com

April 10th, 2006, 04:50 PM	#5
red stang Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Menasha, Wi. Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have about $3000 tops to spend. what are the options?

April 11th, 2006, 10:23 AM	#7
red stang Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Menasha, Wi. Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 reviews	supersixmotorsports has some great deals and i think im gonna go with that. If it sayse it adds up to 80-90 HP why dont more people do it?

April 11th, 2006, 11:25 AM	#9
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	and its not the cheapest way to make power! __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

April 11th, 2006, 02:07 PM	#10
fakesaleen Enthusiast 1988 lx t-top Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Port Huron, MI. Posts: 530 iTrader: 0 reviews	find a wrecked gt __________________

April 12th, 2006, 04:48 PM	#11
red stang Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Menasha, Wi. Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 reviews	If i could find a wrecked GT what would i all need to use. The trannys wont match up so i would need to take the whole engine and tranny out of both cars and swap in the new GT stuff. Or could i use certain parts of the GT engine to pump up my 6r.

April 12th, 2006, 05:57 PM	#12
173speed Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NEW JERSEY Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 reviews	if u go that rout i would get the motor with the harness i think that u would need it , transmission ,and rear __________________ SEEYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MOTHER @#$%

April 12th, 2006, 07:13 PM	#13
red stang Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Menasha, Wi. Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 reviews	how much do u think all of that would cost if i found a wrecked gt

April 12th, 2006, 07:52 PM	#14
turp My Stallion is Bigger! 1989 Eddie Bauer Bronco 3 feet... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VA Beach Posts: 3,012 iTrader: 0 reviews	The time swapping everything over and the price of the wrecked GT... __________________

July 15th, 2006, 02:23 PM	#15
baseballplayhard Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hey if you use the 4.2 Engine do you have to change all the computers and wiring harnesses or will the 3.8 computer work. And if I want to use a turbo whta do I have to do to the engine?

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turp My Stallion is Bigger! 1989 Eddie Bauer Bronco 3 feet... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VA Beach Posts: 3,012 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yes the 4.2 motor will need the proper ECU to run. I am not very sure whether or not the wiring harness will work but I would venture a guess that it will not. If you are wanting to run a Turbo setup you need to look first and foremost at the engine internals. Are they forged? will they hold up? How much boost pressure will be running through the system and just how much can the internals take and still be safe. __________________

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baseballplayhard Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 reviews	When using the stroker kit do you just get the new crank and rods and put them in and thats it?

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99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,745 iTrader: 0 reviews	i have seen a 2000 v6 stock motor, new headgaskets, intercooled twin-turbo kit, j-mod 4r70w run with a safe tune run 400+hp at 17psi with no problems. so there is some strength to the stock motor, but the stock motor is not setup right to make the most out of the f/i. you have several options on the stroker kit, getting one from supersix, morana or rpm-mustangs... each of their kits vary on what additional parts are offered. the other option is to go with make your own stroker kit. since your using a used block and looking to spend good money an a rotating assembly you will want to take your block to a machine shop for some work and clearance checking, some things to consider; overbore- if you are starting with a used block then you are gonna atleast have to get the block bored 0.010, but 0.030 being most popular stroke- 3.8, 4.2, 4.3, 4.6? the connecting rods determine the height of your piston piston style- 89-98 3.8 single port, 99-04 3.8s ,97-04 4.2s split-port cr- 8.0:1 through 11:1 rings rods- i-beam or h-beams, forged or cast? 351w or customs? rod journal- bearing sizes __________________ ...even fire and single cammin 1986 Ford F-150 5.0L 2WD 1994 Toyota Pickup 2.4L 4WD 1999 Ford Mustang 3.8L V6 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L 2WD 2008 GMC Sierra Denali 6.2L AWD

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