Mustang Alarm/Anti-Theft system

FLMustang02 · July 17th, 2010, 06:28 PM

I have an 02' Coupe and I have a general question about Ford's alarm/anti-theft system. I know that the passive anti-theft system scans an encoded chip embedded in the proper ignition key to help prevent a thief from starting the engine, but my question is, are they still able to hot-wire the car??? Second, I'm not too sure if my alarm is even working..i can break into my own car w/o even hearing the sound of the alarm.. Can anyone give me any input on the alarm systems put on our vehicles, how they work, or how it's suppose too..

v6kid · July 17th, 2010, 07:11 PM

IDK if any of them have an alarm, I've never seen one. PATS will let the engine turn over, but not start. It will cut fuel to the engine, maybe spark too.

Mr. Red Pony · July 17th, 2010, 07:20 PM

Just fuel. And some of the stang come factory with an alarm if you get the right package.

Rich J · July 17th, 2010, 09:49 PM

I know I have an alarm, but the only thing I have seen trigger it is say the top is down or the window is open. If I lock my doors via remote, and walk over to my car and press the unlock button inside and open the door the alarm goes off. Thats the only thing I have seen thats triggered the alarm. And I know I don't have to worry about anyone stealing my car, I could hand them the keys and they still couldnt steal it lol. I got one of those chips from VMP that I can pull the chip out (of a disclosed location) and try to start the car but the key wont even turn to the on position. But Ford probably should of done a better job on the stock alarm.

Mr. Red Pony · July 17th, 2010, 10:04 PM

I don't have an alarm, so this is way out of what I know. I just know it would cost both arms and my left nut to get an alarm put on my car.

Rich J · July 17th, 2010, 10:07 PM

Why so much? Would you get one of those "viper" alarms? Lol the wicked expensive ones I see all the time.

Mr. Red Pony · July 17th, 2010, 10:23 PM

No, it is a K9

clidefr0g · July 17th, 2010, 10:46 PM

only some have the alarm, i have the alarm but not the remote lol so mine is useless til i bother to get the remote.

If you lock it via the remote and open it any other way other than the remote or key the alarm will go off.

Rich J · July 17th, 2010, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Red Pony

No, it is a K9

I could have a "k9" alarm too lol

throw my 75lb german sheppard in my front seat everytime I get out of my car.

Mr. Red Pony · July 17th, 2010, 11:17 PM

Ill just bring both 150LB great danes...

Threetimes · July 17th, 2010, 11:44 PM

ahh so that is how the alarm work my key remote locks the doors and if i press it twice it gives one little honk sound like its enabling the alarm.i think you have to hit the lock button twice in a row to enable it not real sure but think so.

v6kid · July 18th, 2010, 01:09 AM

lol nope. It honks when you press it twice just to let you know that it locked the first time.

oscar1204 · July 18th, 2010, 04:11 AM

do we have an alarm??????

Michael F · July 18th, 2010, 11:10 AM

Factory anti-theft doesnt do $hit except for giving you a false sense of security. Do not rely on it for protection. Ask me how I know

An alarm system along with a tracking device is the way to go.

99 BLUE V6 · July 18th, 2010, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Michael F

Factory anti-theft doesnt do except for giving you a false sense of security. Do not rely on it for protection. Ask me how I know
An alarm system along with a tracking device is the way to go.

How do you know?

Michael F · July 18th, 2010, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by 99 BLUE V6

How do you know?

After 8 years and 120 000kms, countless hours of TLC, thousands of $ of maintenance, upkeep and mods, some SOB stole it from my driveway...

99 BLUE V6 · July 18th, 2010, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Michael F

After 8 years and 120 000kms, countless hours of TLC, thousands of $ of maintenance, upkeep and mods, some SOB stole it from my driveway...

Sorry for your loss. I park mine in the back yard.

FLMustang02 · July 18th, 2010, 01:43 PM

Thanks for all the input, this is the reason I posted this thread, I don't think my car has the alarm. The only time I will even hear my alarm is if I press the panic button. That's about it. As for you Michael, did you get your car back after it was stolen?

FLMustang02 · July 18th, 2010, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by demon_54

Why so much? Would you get one of those "viper" alarms? Lol the wicked expensive ones I see all the time.

I was checking out some of these alarms, but I halted to purchase one because I thought maybe somewhere in my stang, it was equipped with an alarm

Michael F · July 18th, 2010, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by FLMustang02

Thanks for all the input, this is the reason I posted this thread, I don't think my car has the alarm. The only time I will even hear my alarm is if I press the panic button. That's about it. As for you Michael, did you get your car back after it was stolen?

Here in Canada, insurance companies allow 30 days for vehicle recovery as the chances for recovery beyond 30 days are unlikely.
Fastforward 30 days and still no news, insurance co. makes me a settlement offer I cant refuse, I accept, find another car, make a deal.
The very next day, I get a call from the Surete de Quebec, the provincial police force, stating they recovered my car, get this, 3 weeks prior!
It took them 3 weeks to make a phone call. They are just as incompetant as every other Quebec run organization.
Long story short, I refused the `02, took the money and ran.

Having said that, I would`nt wish that experience on my worse enemy, however, all is well that ends well I suppose.

July 17th, 2010, 06:28 PM	#1
FLMustang02 Regular 06 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 189 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mustang Alarm/Anti-Theft system I have an 02' Coupe and I have a general question about Ford's alarm/anti-theft system. I know that the passive anti-theft system scans an encoded chip embedded in the proper ignition key to help prevent a thief from starting the engine, but my question is, are they still able to hot-wire the car??? Second, I'm not too sure if my alarm is even working..i can break into my own car w/o even hearing the sound of the alarm.. Can anyone give me any input on the alarm systems put on our vehicles, how they work, or how it's suppose too.. __________________ Garage: 02 Mustang---SOLD N GONE 96 Integra---Daily 06 BMW M3---Weekend

July 17th, 2010, 07:11 PM	#2
v6kid Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang v6 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,725 iTrader: 0 reviews	IDK if any of them have an alarm, I've never seen one. PATS will let the engine turn over, but not start. It will cut fuel to the engine, maybe spark too. __________________ I went to school to be a mechanic, so I know what I'm talking about most of the time. mods in the garage, slowly getting peppier. 6ershootout.com summer of 2012... Be There

July 17th, 2010, 07:20 PM	#3
Mr. Red Pony Resident badass 01 Built V6 (3.9) 13.91 @ 99.1 N/A Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lawton, Oklahomo Posts: 6,789 iTrader: 10 reviews	Just fuel. And some of the stang come factory with an alarm if you get the right package. __________________ 271rwhp N/A V6 The Name is Danny. I'm a GM Technician. Suck it.

July 17th, 2010, 09:49 PM	#4
Rich J I'm doing it wrong 04 Grand Cherokee Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 5,211 iTrader: 0 reviews	I know I have an alarm, but the only thing I have seen trigger it is say the top is down or the window is open. If I lock my doors via remote, and walk over to my car and press the unlock button inside and open the door the alarm goes off. Thats the only thing I have seen thats triggered the alarm. And I know I don't have to worry about anyone stealing my car, I could hand them the keys and they still couldnt steal it lol. I got one of those chips from VMP that I can pull the chip out (of a disclosed location) and try to start the car but the key wont even turn to the on position. But Ford probably should of done a better job on the stock alarm. __________________ Formerly known as Demon_54 "I feel the same way about disco as I do about herpes." - Hunter S. Thompson

July 17th, 2010, 10:04 PM	#5
Mr. Red Pony Resident badass 01 Built V6 (3.9) 13.91 @ 99.1 N/A Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lawton, Oklahomo Posts: 6,789 iTrader: 10 reviews	I don't have an alarm, so this is way out of what I know. I just know it would cost both arms and my left nut to get an alarm put on my car. __________________ 271rwhp N/A V6 The Name is Danny. I'm a GM Technician. Suck it.

July 17th, 2010, 10:07 PM	#6
Rich J I'm doing it wrong 04 Grand Cherokee Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 5,211 iTrader: 0 reviews	Why so much? Would you get one of those "viper" alarms? Lol the wicked expensive ones I see all the time. __________________ Formerly known as Demon_54 "I feel the same way about disco as I do about herpes." - Hunter S. Thompson

July 17th, 2010, 10:23 PM	#7
Mr. Red Pony Resident badass 01 Built V6 (3.9) 13.91 @ 99.1 N/A Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lawton, Oklahomo Posts: 6,789 iTrader: 10 reviews	No, it is a K9 __________________ 271rwhp N/A V6 The Name is Danny. I'm a GM Technician. Suck it.

July 17th, 2010, 11:17 PM	#10
Mr. Red Pony Resident badass 01 Built V6 (3.9) 13.91 @ 99.1 N/A Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lawton, Oklahomo Posts: 6,789 iTrader: 10 reviews	Ill just bring both 150LB great danes... __________________ 271rwhp N/A V6 The Name is Danny. I'm a GM Technician. Suck it.

July 17th, 2010, 11:44 PM	#11
Threetimes Regular 2000 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 62 iTrader: 0 reviews	ahh so that is how the alarm work my key remote locks the doors and if i press it twice it gives one little honk sound like its enabling the alarm.i think you have to hit the lock button twice in a row to enable it not real sure but think so.

July 18th, 2010, 01:09 AM	#12
v6kid Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang v6 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,725 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol nope. It honks when you press it twice just to let you know that it locked the first time. __________________ I went to school to be a mechanic, so I know what I'm talking about most of the time. mods in the garage, slowly getting peppier. 6ershootout.com summer of 2012... Be There

July 18th, 2010, 04:11 AM	#13
oscar1204 Regular 2001 ford mustang Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: bronsville, texas Posts: 59 iTrader: 0 reviews	do we have an alarm??????

July 18th, 2010, 11:10 AM	#14
Michael F Newbie 2002 Torch Red Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 reviews	Factory anti-theft doesnt do $hit except for giving you a false sense of security. Do not rely on it for protection. Ask me how I know An alarm system along with a tracking device is the way to go.

July 18th, 2010, 01:43 PM	#18
FLMustang02 Regular 06 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 189 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks for all the input, this is the reason I posted this thread, I don't think my car has the alarm. The only time I will even hear my alarm is if I press the panic button. That's about it. As for you Michael, did you get your car back after it was stolen? __________________ Garage: 02 Mustang---SOLD N GONE 96 Integra---Daily 06 BMW M3---Weekend Last edited by FLMustang02; July 18th, 2010 at 01:47 PM.

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