[dark-samurai2]

a couple of people told me that my turbo design would blow my engine and i have seen the design i have on a few other v6 stangs. t3/t4 60trim. its a twin turbo intercooled system that flows out to a true dual exhaust. they tell me that its just to much air to flow in there. anyone who can give an answer to this would really help.

2000 v6 mustang

this is the engine i have.

[GreenFaleen]

mileage and boost numbers would help, but more than likely you will need forged internals and you would be fine, our blocks are beastly

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by dark-samurai2 a couple of people told me that my turbo design would blow my engine and i have seen the design i have on a few other v6 stangs. t3/t4 60trim. its a twin turbo intercooled system that flows out to a true dual exhaust. they tell me that its just to much air to flow in there. anyone who can give an answer to this would really help. 2000 v6 mustang this is the engine i have.

ok they are idiots.. because the thing about turbos and supers is you set how much air flows through.. as long as you put the boost below 5psi or you upgrade you fuel system you will be fine.. anything over 7psi i would get a ported top end.. and anything around 10psi get forged internals

[97TunedMustang]

Just keep the boost at 8lbs or less and you should be fine for quite some time on stock internals. you will need to upgrade fuel to get past 4lbs though without leaning out

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen mileage and boost numbers would help, but more than likely you will need forged internals and you would be fine, our blocks are beastly

this "get forged internals" thing has to stop.. our internals are pretty badass and can handle a beating.. the top end wont.. so before you get forged internals get a ported upper and lower intake

[GreenFaleen]

Originally Posted by Texan_Stud Originally Posted by GreenFaleen mileage and boost numbers would help, but more than likely you will need forged internals and you would be fine, our blocks are beastly this "get forged internals" thing has to stop.. our internals are pretty badass and can handle a beating.. the top end wont.. so before you get forged internals get a ported upper and lower intake

well yeah for a 7 year old car with more than likely over 60k miles, and most guys wanting a twin turbo system plan on running higher amounts of boost, thats why I asked his numbers he had in mind.

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen Originally Posted by Texan_Stud Originally Posted by GreenFaleen mileage and boost numbers would help, but more than likely you will need forged internals and you would be fine, our blocks are beastly this "get forged internals" thing has to stop.. our internals are pretty badass and can handle a beating.. the top end wont.. so before you get forged internals get a ported upper and lower intake well yeah for a 7 year old car with more than likely over 60k miles, and most guys wanting a twin turbo system plan on running higher amounts of boost, thats why I asked his numbers he had in mind.

just throwing that out there because alot of kids on here try to say you need internals then you can run all the boost you want!.. yeah ok the motor is gonna blow because you can get all the boost flowing through the engine.. so this is the order you do it.. turbo, fuel sys, top end, bottum end

[dark-samurai2]

damn thanks to every one who replied to this. that really helped now for my last question. im new to turbos and i dont know where to find this particular one. its a garret t3/t4 hybrid 60trim. i dont know all the numbers mean when i went to that website to find it. can some one help me find this one. also i need a big one for higher speeds and a smaller one for the lower speeds. thanks to any one who can help me with this one.

[GreenFaleen]

Yeah I agree texan are internals are great I just like to throw it out so if someone blows something I can say I told you so lol

And Dark I'm not sure on the turbo stuff if Cricket doesn't get on this pm him and he will be able to help you, there are few other turbo guys on here I think.

[97TunedMustang]

any new t3/t4 will do, unless your looking for somethin with ball bearings which would be much more expensive.

A t3 would be too small for a 6 however the t3/t4 would work nice. anything larger would be overkill and increase spool time and lag unnecessarily. the t3/t4 can do 25 easy and 30 if you push it. either way, numbers youll probably never see most likely, so itd be a good turbo to work with for a twin setup.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...98633465QQrdZ1

[dark-samurai2]

hey thanks for that link but on a tt dont you use one big won and one small one? also, damn thats the cheapest one i have seen yet any reason for that?

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by dark-samurai2 hey thanks for that link but on a tt dont you use one big won and one small one? also, damn thats the cheapest one i have seen yet any reason for that?

your talking about a smaller turbo dumping its boost into a bigger turbo to reduce lag... thats a rediculous thing to do on a street car IMO.. i dont even like twin turbo on street cars.. its that a street car.. i would save the money on that and buy one turbo it will give you all the power you need


plus seq turbo are tuning nightmares

[dark-samurai2]

well i choped off the y pipe and put on a h pipe adapter for a true dual exhaust. thats why i thought of using that set up. if i had one turbo than wouldnt the air flow out of one pipe causing less power?

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by dark-samurai2 well i choped off the y pipe and put on a h pipe adapter for a true dual exhaust. thats why i thought of using that set up. if i had one turbo than wouldnt the air flow out of one pipe causing less power?

no single turbos only need one pipe to flow through.. if you want dualies you can always get a y pipe fabbed up =]

[232stang]

Originally Posted by Texan_Stud Originally Posted by dark-samurai2 hey thanks for that link but on a tt dont you use one big won and one small one? also, damn thats the cheapest one i have seen yet any reason for that? your talking about a smaller turbo dumping its boost into a bigger turbo to reduce lag... thats a rediculous thing to do on a street car IMO.. i dont even like twin turbo on street cars.. its that a street car.. i would save the money on that and buy one turbo it will give you all the power you need plus seq turbo are tuning nightmares

hows it ridiculous? its not like you cant turn down the boost. have you ever had experience tuning a TT car? didnt think so. this guy i know went to uti and hes an amazing tuner. and hes tuned plenty of TT cars no problem. also when people go for big power they usually end up getting a large single turbo

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by 232stang Originally Posted by Texan_Stud Originally Posted by dark-samurai2 hey thanks for that link but on a tt dont you use one big won and one small one? also, damn thats the cheapest one i have seen yet any reason for that? your talking about a smaller turbo dumping its boost into a bigger turbo to reduce lag... thats a rediculous thing to do on a street car IMO.. i dont even like twin turbo on street cars.. its that a street car.. i would save the money on that and buy one turbo it will give you all the power you need plus seq turbo are tuning nightmares hows it ridiculous? its not like you cant turn down the boost. have you ever had experience tuning a TT car? didnt think so. this guy i know went to uti and hes an amazing tuner. and hes tuned plenty of TT cars no problem. also when people go for big power they usually end up getting a large single turbo

ok 1 two turbos like that is made for racing and my point was why would you need all that shit for a street car.. you turn down the boost your letting over 6grand goto waste not to mention all the motor work you did.. get my drift now..? i was saying why do all that when a single turbo will work just fine AGREED? most likely he doesnt want more than 500hp on a DD car and he can even go over that on a single turbo..


anyways blow your money how you like and dont take my advice i dotn care i am just putting it in perspective

[232stang]

i would rather have twin turbo to compensate for the weak engine. in a more powerful car i would lean towards single.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by dark-samurai2 damn thanks to every one who replied to this. that really helped now for my last question. im new to turbos and i dont know where to find this particular one. its a garret t3/t4 hybrid 60trim. i dont know all the numbers mean when i went to that website to find it. can some one help me find this one. also i need a big one for higher speeds and a smaller one for the lower speeds. thanks to any one who can help me with this one.

a t3/t4 is a hybrid style turbo obviously. It has a t3 style turbine for quick spooling from the exhaust gasses and a t4 style compressor for more power. Now a t3 turbo is a good turbo to a point. Quick spooling, economy turbo. Won't make you tons and tons of power, but will put you in the seat a couple times. Problem with a t3 is that around 4000 rpms - 5000 rpms it won't compress anymore air that what it is compressing at the moment. Now a t3/t4 will compress throughout the entire rpm range of our cars. A 60 trim is a good sized trim, but I would recommend between a 57 to 60 trim for our cars.

the setup your talking about with the 2 sized turbos is called a sequential setup. Now since you are new to turbos I don't recommend that setup because you need to know how to read turbo maps. You want a turbo that spools quick, and then "dumps" it boost into a larger turbo to spool it quicker. It acts as like a single turbo setup with no turbo lag. Also it takes a bit of fab work as well. I really don't recommend that kind of setup too much. For a street car a parallel turbo setup will make you happy.

Remember...turbo lag is foreplay.

[dark-samurai2]

ok guys cmon. see i think i can do it for just under 4000. but i dont want to go back 2 a single exhaust. thats why i was wondering about the twin turbo. but wouldnt i lose power if i used one turbo on a dual exhuast like that. wait a minute what if i put an x pipe on there with some high flow cats. would that work with a single turbo??

[Cricket]

You still need a fabbed up y-pipe, and then something like a y-pipe type adapter to make it look like true dual exhaust. It won't work the way you think it will because both exhaust manifolds have to go to the turbo, and then out from the turbo for the exhaust.