V6 setup to beat a stock GT

carney · August 1st, 2010, 12:12 PM

My bud's got a 97 GT and has been begging for me to race him for awhile. I've got no performance mods but I've got some money to spend so what can I do to get faster?

v606er · August 1st, 2010, 12:18 PM

How much money do you have to spend?

Are we talking twin turbo money? Or nitrous money?

v6kid · August 1st, 2010, 12:25 PM

What year is your car?

carney · August 1st, 2010, 01:11 PM

I got a 2000, and I have enough money for nitrous, but I was looking more towards internals and such.

RFM 40th V6 · August 1st, 2010, 01:25 PM

If you have a 2000 you've almost got him as it is.

If he's stock you could go for CAI ($70), Tuner($380), Gears($150) and a TLOK($220) That should put you around 15.3 in the 1/4 mile.

Oh and you'll need this Install Kit and add on about $500 for installation of the gears.

Mine with similar mods and an automatic goes 15.0's

carney · August 1st, 2010, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by RFM 40th V6

If you have a 2000 you've almost got him as it is.

If he's stock you could go for CAI ($70), Tuner($380), Gears($150) and a TLOK($220) That should put you around 15.3 in the 1/4 mile.

Oh and you'll need this Install Kit and add on about $500 for installation of the gears.

Mine with similar mods and an automatic goes 15.0's

Are you running 3.73's, or 4.10's?

brett22 · August 1st, 2010, 01:45 PM

CAI is not a very good first mod, go with the windstar intake. Using ebay etc. you can piece one together for less then 300 or just buy a new one here($415) Gears are a good idea along with a t lok but you can probably get them installed for less than 500. Another good mod is to have an exhaust shop fabricate an exhaust for you with an offroad h-pipe and some chambered mufflers.(Your car will sound better then the v8)

brett22 · August 1st, 2010, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by rcarney

Are you running 3.73's, or 4.10's?

my opinion=3.73

brett22 · August 1st, 2010, 01:52 PM

With all this and possibly a tuner it will get you up to around 210 engine hp, your friends car has around 215 hp if its stock. Plus the v6 is lighter so you will have a greater power to weight ratio and with the addition of gears you will get in your powerband faster and will overall have a faster car. Don't street race, keep it on the track, just go to a drag strip.

Codeman · August 1st, 2010, 02:04 PM

It depends on if the guys gt is an auto. And if yours is a manual, and his is an auto it will be a lot easier for you to beat him.

carney · August 1st, 2010, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by brett22

With all this and possibly a tuner it will get you up to around 210 engine hp, your friends car has around 215 hp if its stock. Plus the v6 is lighter so you will have a greater power to weight ratio and with the addition of gears you will get in your powerband faster and will overall have a faster car. Don't street race, keep it on the track, just go to a drag strip.

A Family friend got seriously hurt in a street race, so I'm definitely going to keep it on the track. And thanks for all the input

v606er · August 1st, 2010, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by brett22

With all this and possibly a tuner it will get you up to around 210 engine hp, your friends car has around 215 hp if its stock. Plus the v6 is lighter so you will have a greater power to weight ratio and with the addition of gears you will get in your powerband faster and will overall have a faster car. Don't street race, keep it on the track, just go to a drag strip.

Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.

You will still lose the race with those mods. You need cams if you want to win.

brett22 · August 1st, 2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by v606er

Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.

the words of Carrol Shelby, with these mods you are also gaining torque but most people prefer to talk in terms of hp. The reason i suggested the mods i did was because a guy down at my local track has all this stuff on his car(btw his total cost was only 600) and has a better quarter mile time/speed then any stock pre-98 4.6L. What mods does your friend have on his car rcarney? A 100 shot of nos will also win u that race pretty fast.

brett22 · August 1st, 2010, 02:23 PM

Also cams are great but nos works better. And cams can cost over 1000 with all the parts, install and tune.

Mr. Red Pony · August 1st, 2010, 02:38 PM

Cam, ported lower intake, power heads, windstar upper intake, gears and a posi, and you can beat alot of bolt-on 2v GTs if you are a good driver.

carney · August 1st, 2010, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by brett22

the words of Carrol Shelby, with these mods you are also gaining torque but most people prefer to talk in terms of hp. The reason i suggested the mods i did was because a guy down at my local track has all this stuff on his car(btw his total cost was only 600) and has a better quarter mile time/speed then any stock pre-98 4.6L. What mods does your friend have on his car rcarney? A 100 shot of nos will also win u that race pretty fast.

He's bone stock but he's got a huge head "cause i drive a little sixxer while hes got a v8 that is amazing."

JTs03v6 · August 1st, 2010, 02:42 PM

Cam and gears should put you right there with him. 4.10 for the win, or better yet, a 4.56 will really wake your car up.

Mr. Red Pony · August 1st, 2010, 02:44 PM

I didn't see it was a 97. That should be really easy to beat, IF you are split port.

JTs03v6 · August 1st, 2010, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by rcarney

He's bone stock but he's got a huge head "cause i drive a little sixxer while hes got a v8 that is amazing."

I fucking hate people like that. As a matter of fact, I walked a bolt on 3v pretty hard today. Guy was talking some serious shit about how I was wasting my money. Posted the kill in street101 if you want to see how it went down.

6ER THEN I 8ER! · August 1st, 2010, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by v606er

Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.

You will still lose the race with those mods. You need cams if you want to win.

ima gonna call you on that one man. i took my friends 96 GT in my old sixxer by a nose with just intake, exhaust, nitto 555Rs. and he missed 2nd

anything can happen man

August 1st, 2010, 12:12 PM	#1
carney I'm Learning Drugs ΔΧ 2000 3.8 Mustang Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey Posts: 4,237 iTrader: 1 reviews	V6 setup to beat a stock GT My bud's got a 97 GT and has been begging for me to race him for awhile. I've got no performance mods but I've got some money to spend so what can I do to get faster?

August 1st, 2010, 12:25 PM	#3
v6kid Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang v6 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,725 iTrader: 0 reviews	What year is your car? __________________ I went to school to be a mechanic, so I know what I'm talking about most of the time. mods in the garage, slowly getting peppier. 6ershootout.com summer of 2012... Be There

August 1st, 2010, 01:45 PM	#7
brett22 Regular 2004 Mustang V6 heart of a 4V Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: under a mustang Posts: 462 iTrader: 0 reviews	CAI is not a very good first mod, go with the windstar intake. Using ebay etc. you can piece one together for less then 300 or just buy a new one here($415) Gears are a good idea along with a t lok but you can probably get them installed for less than 500. Another good mod is to have an exhaust shop fabricate an exhaust for you with an offroad h-pipe and some chambered mufflers.(Your car will sound better then the v8) __________________ Turboed 4.6 4V build in progress Milwaukee School of Engineering Class of 2015, BA in Mechanical Engineering 2004 Terminator 100% Stock 5000 Miles Red 2004 V6 (swapping in a turboed 4.6)

August 1st, 2010, 01:52 PM	#9
brett22 Regular 2004 Mustang V6 heart of a 4V Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: under a mustang Posts: 462 iTrader: 0 reviews	With all this and possibly a tuner it will get you up to around 210 engine hp, your friends car has around 215 hp if its stock. Plus the v6 is lighter so you will have a greater power to weight ratio and with the addition of gears you will get in your powerband faster and will overall have a faster car. Don't street race, keep it on the track, just go to a drag strip. __________________ Turboed 4.6 4V build in progress Milwaukee School of Engineering Class of 2015, BA in Mechanical Engineering 2004 Terminator 100% Stock 5000 Miles Red 2004 V6 (swapping in a turboed 4.6)

August 1st, 2010, 02:04 PM	#10
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	It depends on if the guys gt is an auto. And if yours is a manual, and his is an auto it will be a lot easier for you to beat him. __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

August 1st, 2010, 01:11 PM	#4
carney I'm Learning Drugs ΔΧ 2000 3.8 Mustang Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey Posts: 4,237 iTrader: 1 reviews	I got a 2000, and I have enough money for nitrous, but I was looking more towards internals and such.

August 1st, 2010, 02:23 PM	#14
brett22 Regular 2004 Mustang V6 heart of a 4V Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: under a mustang Posts: 462 iTrader: 0 reviews	Also cams are great but nos works better. And cams can cost over 1000 with all the parts, install and tune. __________________ Turboed 4.6 4V build in progress Milwaukee School of Engineering Class of 2015, BA in Mechanical Engineering 2004 Terminator 100% Stock 5000 Miles Red 2004 V6 (swapping in a turboed 4.6)

August 1st, 2010, 02:38 PM	#15
Mr. Red Pony Resident badass 01 Built V6 (3.9) 13.91 @ 99.1 N/A Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lawton, Oklahomo Posts: 6,789 iTrader: 10 reviews	Cam, ported lower intake, power heads, windstar upper intake, gears and a posi, and you can beat alot of bolt-on 2v GTs if you are a good driver. __________________ 271rwhp N/A V6 The Name is Danny. I'm a GM Technician. Suck it.

August 1st, 2010, 02:42 PM	#17
JTs03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 mustang 7.48x1.56=11.67 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,318 iTrader: 0 reviews	Cam and gears should put you right there with him. 4.10 for the win, or better yet, a 4.56 will really wake your car up. __________________ New combo: Forged SC short Block,280cfm heads, Precision 6262 turbo, cx 31x12x3 fmic http://photobucket.com/JTsTurboBuild http://youtube.com/user/JTsStang

August 1st, 2010, 02:44 PM	#18
Mr. Red Pony Resident badass 01 Built V6 (3.9) 13.91 @ 99.1 N/A Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lawton, Oklahomo Posts: 6,789 iTrader: 10 reviews	I didn't see it was a 97. That should be really easy to beat, IF you are split port. __________________ 271rwhp N/A V6 The Name is Danny. I'm a GM Technician. Suck it.

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