[Avaric3]

i own a 99 mustang(completely stock other than brakes) w/ a pretty crappy, rusted up exhaust. i wanna go w/ a dual exhaust, but first i got a few questions and parts to show you. i have a good idea of what i wanna get, but im no car expert, so im checkin w/ u guys to be 110% sure. here u go:

flowmaster force II-
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

or ford racing exhaust-
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...86+4294903646+

shorty headers-
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...80+4294902237+

or one of these-
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

which exhaust system should i go w/(ford or flowmaster)? i want a deep, loud sound and the most power as possible out of the setup. also instead of the shorty headers should i get long tube headers? which will give me more power? also i know i need to get an x-pipe. anyone know which one is good and affordable? i have about $1000 to spend on the exhaust setup and t-lok. shortly after im getting 3.73 gears(i have to drive it everyday, otherwise id get 4.10s)

[One Bad Sixxx]

Longtubes.

If you want more performance from the setup, Xpipe would be better than the Hpipe.

And you can go ahead and get 4.10s. Not a big deal. Quite a few of us have them on our DDs. =]

[Avaric3]

thank u for helping!

so heres what im gonna do:

flowmaster force II exhaust system
x-pipe
and possibly these long tubes?- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/96-20...QQcmdZViewItem would those work? it says for gt, but since im makin a dual exhaust, wouldnt it fit?

also my friend told me that a new throttle body (65mm bbk) on my 99 v6 would make me lose horsepower. is that true? or should i go ahead and buy a tb too?

[VSR13]

i would go wit an h-pipe rather than x bc the x sound like crap on our cars...o and as for the headers those would only work for a gt

[VSR13]

http://v6mustangstuff.com/Headers.htm

there's a site for the longtubes

[GreenFaleen]

performance on our cars between x and h is nothing. An H will sound beeter and perform the same. Get the ceramic coated long tube headers and you will have to custom build a catted h-pipe for your exhaust if you have emissions. IT should cost about 50 bucks.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by Avaric3 thank u for helping! so heres what im gonna do: flowmaster force II exhaust system x-pipe and possibly these long tubes?- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/96-20...QQcmdZViewItem would those work? it says for gt, but since im makin a dual exhaust, wouldnt it fit? also my friend told me that a new throttle body (65mm bbk) on my 99 v6 would make me lose horsepower. is that true? or should i go ahead and buy a tb too?

So I hope you were kidding about the GT headers fitting on a v6....

Anyway.
- You want long tubes
L pref mac ceramic coated ones

- You Want to do gears & tlok at the same time
L perf not to waste money on 2 installs

- You don't need an H or X pipe
L untill somebody shows you a dyno otherwise

[One Bad Sixxx]

Thats new to me, H and the X perform the same. I always read and saw that Xs performed better. Hm.. Thats a cool fact.

Originally Posted by SSStang - You Want to do gears & tlok at the same time L perf not to waste money on 2 installs

Indeed!! Thats what I did. Saved me a heartache. =D

[Avaric3]

Originally Posted by VSR13 http://v6mustangstuff.com/Headers.htm there's a site for the longtubes

whats the diff between air injection and w/o air injection? which ones better?

really sorry to be poppin question after question, but its my car, and id like to not mess this up, lol

[VSR13]

ok well that x-pipe is made for short tubes...so it wouldn't fit the long tube headers u would b getting. o and u could do a crossover pipe like GF and save some money on the midpipe

[ESG-642T]

If your buying headers PERIOD buy them here.

http://www.myfordperformance.com/

Fastest shipping / customer service i've ever seen

Hes on AIM: myfordperf

Tell him
- SSStang sent you

[Avaric3]

as for the installs. price and timing really doesnt matter cuz i got friends doin it for me

[GreenFaleen]

Originally Posted by One Bad Sixxx Thats new to me, H and the X perform the same. I always read and saw that Xs performed better. Hm.. Thats a cool fact.

well x's do perform on uneven fireing big engines but on our even firing v6's it is the same as an H

[tomzac]

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen Originally Posted by One Bad Sixxx Thats new to me, H and the X perform the same. I always read and saw that Xs performed better. Hm.. Thats a cool fact. but on our even firing v6's it is the same as an H

And what is that? Where is there performance data on H and X pipes for the Essex block v6? Numbers please. Or is it just a sound thing?

[GreenFaleen]

Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by GreenFaleen Originally Posted by One Bad Sixxx Thats new to me, H and the X perform the same. I always read and saw that Xs performed better. Hm.. Thats a cool fact. but on our even firing v6's it is the same as an H And what is that? Where is there performance data on H and X pipes for the Essex block v6? Numbers please. Or is it just a sound thing?

well the h sounds better. I haven't honestly seen dyno sheets showing a car without then with the midpipe I would say 3-5 tops it is mainly a sound thing.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by GreenFaleen Originally Posted by One Bad Sixxx Thats new to me, H and the X perform the same. I always read and saw that Xs performed better. Hm.. Thats a cool fact. but on our even firing v6's it is the same as an H And what is that? Where is there performance data on H and X pipes for the Essex block v6? Numbers please. Or is it just a sound thing? well the h sounds better. I haven't honestly seen dyno sheets showing a car without then with the midpipe I would say 3-5 tops it is mainly a sound thing.

FINALLY SOMEBODY - Exactly where is the data on x vs h?

[WLJohnson05]

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen performance on our cars between x and h is nothing. An H will sound beeter and perform the same. Get the ceramic coated long tube headers and you will have to custom build a catted h-pipe for your exhaust if you have emissions. IT should cost about 50 bucks.

i got the custom built hpipe on my force 2 flowmaster system yesterday, they charged a 100 for it, i think i was overcharged, but hell with it, i like it and i noticed a big difference in get up and go compared to that restrictive Y pipe

[Avaric3]

ive decided on my setup, after listening to atlanticblue's, i had to get the same one

so im getting mac long tube headers, mac h-pipe, and a magnaflow catback. only difference is that mine is gonna have cats on it, cuz im in nj and they do emissions

[Clayhistorian]

So even though there are emissions in every state only certain states do testing for it right? B/c I'm pretty sure that Florida doesn't have tests (I lived here 5 years and I haven't had to take one) so I can go with an o/r pipe?