[99 BLUE V6]

I want to do somthing different with my CAI. I would like to know how far or close should the MAF be to TB? Does the air temp sender need to be behind MAF?

[mustangmike!]

windstar
lol

[99 BLUE V6]

Originally Posted by mustangmike! windstar lol

does that mean you dont know. lol lol

[mustangmike!]

yepp sure as hell does
lOl

[Codeman]

Hmm... What are you thinking for as far as how your going to make your new one? I mean how close are you thinking of having the MAF sensor? As far as distance, as long as it is not right next to the TB I am almost 99 percent sure that it does not matter.

[99 BLUE V6]

Originally Posted by Codeman Hmm... What are you thinking for as far as how your going to make your new one? I mean how close are you thinking of having the MAF sensor? As far as distance, as long as it is not right next to the TB I am almost 99 percent sure that it does not matter.

thinking of giong straight into front grill, with a custom radaitor of corse.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by 99 BLUE V6 thinking of giong straight into front grill, with a custom radaitor of corse.

Make the entire front grill the opening for the intake

[rfcsoulja]

Kind of like the Camaro's (pre 2010)?

[99 BLUE V6]

maybe not entire opening, but yea like the camaro. how close can you get to MAF to TB

[Rich J]

I like the idea actually, would look better if it was one or two turbos sticking out there though


But question, why are you asking how close the MAF can be to the TB? If your custom making it just keep the MAF in the same place and just add the piping w/ filter to the grille area. So you don't have to extend the MAF plug wires or anything, keep it simple. Just my opinion though.

[99 BLUE V6]

Originally Posted by rfcsoulja Kind of like the Camaro's (pre 2010)?

Originally Posted by demon_54 I like the idea actually, would look better if it was one or two turbos sticking out there though But question, why are you asking how close the MAF can be to the TB? If your custom making it just keep the MAF in the same place and just add the piping w/ filter to the grille area. So you don't have to extend the MAF plug wires or anything, keep it simple. Just my opinion though.

Well its going to be a little closer going straight off windstar.wires will be redone regardless.want to box it in something like this.only in grill pic1

[Trick Tuners]

You will need custom tuning if you do anything crazy. The maf is super sensitive to very small changes in the intake path. You do not want to expose the maf to direct air off the front of the car because the car will run way rich, unless you can get the maf far enough back so that it doesn't see turbulence. You don't really want to change the location of the maf without tuning because the ecu knows how far the maf is and how long the air takes to get into the cylinders. You also dont want to have maf too close to the throttle body.

[99 BLUE V6]

Originally Posted by Trick Tuners You will need custom tuning if you do anything crazy. The maf is super sensitive to very small changes in the intake path. You do not want to expose the maf to direct air off the front of the car because the car will run way rich, unless you can get the maf far enough back so that it doesn't see turbulence. You don't really want to change the location of the maf without tuning because the ecu knows how far the maf is and how long the air takes to get into the cylinders. You also dont want to have maf too close to the throttle body.

I understand what your saying about direct air off front, i can do some sort of defuser or something around filter. not trying to do a ram effect. i want to do this strickly for show but still be functional for D Driving.my car has a air temp sender does it need to be behind MAF? just trying to gather some info for now.

[Trick Tuners]

The air temp sensor just needs to measure the incoming air temp. t doesn't really matter where it is in relation to the maf. Just be sure to check the tune before you blow the engine due to a lean mixture and a funky intake.

[Codeman]

I like the 572 BB that looks nasty

[99 BLUE V6]

Originally Posted by Trick Tuners The air temp sensor just needs to measure the incoming air temp. t doesn't really matter where it is in relation to the maf. Just be sure to check the tune before you blow the engine due to a lean mixture and a funky intake.

Thanks for your help. I'm surrounded by plenty of good tuners in my aera i'll go speak to a few of them.

[BlueScreaM]

my old homebrew intake i had the MAF upside down about 5 inches i want to say from the throttle, and it was held inplace by silicone lol. So i think it would work for that setup.

[walt1120]

why not just run the maf in between the filter and the TB maybe like 8 inches away from each. i dont think it matter as long as its right next to the tb, you just want it to get an accurate measure of incoming air.

and i actually thought about doing this if i ever got a windstar upper because i think it looks good as hell when you have a straight intake pipe like that and also no curves or bend to hinder airflow.

[99 BLUE V6]

Originally Posted by walt1120 why not just run the maf in between the filter and the TB maybe like 8 inches away from each. i dont think it matter as long as its right next to the tb, you just want it to get an accurate measure of incoming air. and i actually thought about doing this if i ever got a windstar upper because i think it looks good as hell when you have a straight intake pipe like that and also no curves or bend to hinder airflow.

Yea been kicking this around for a while too. Plus, still got a little bit of a hood issue so its not going to be a straight shot.

[walt1120]

Originally Posted by 99 BLUE V6 Yea been kicking this around for a while too. Plus, still got a little bit of a hood issue so its not going to be a straight shot.

yeah maybe if you got a pipe that kind of went from a round shape and flattened out be like maybe 6 inches wide but maybe only 1 inch high, then put on a flat looking filter

something looking like this but closer to the grille and without the little plate underneath