pats-

double0mustang · December 6th, 2010, 12:34 AM

I'm still working on my car the fuel pump doesn't even prime..

I changed the fuel pump and nothing, changed the ccrm and still nothing changed the FPDM and nope nothing.. (inertia switch is working properly also)
my theft light is blinking and my odometer reads ------- instead of numbers - this happened after i had a short by the fuel pump connector located under the license plate by the fuel tank. obdII reads no link so tomorrow i'm picking up a ECU at a local wrecking yard to see if it even connects to the obdII .

I thought about the PATS system being engaged but after seeing a few videos on youtube I realized that the fuel pump will prime and let the car start and after a second or two the engine will shut off correct?

so my next thing to do is retrace all the wiring and my only guess would be a bad ground connection somewhere .. my cd player was stolen and they did yank the wires out (bastards) so can that be a problem ?

clidefr0g · December 6th, 2010, 05:57 AM

afaik if pats is enabled it will never start not even for a few seconds, it just turns over and over til the bat is dead.

xn1919 · December 6th, 2010, 10:43 AM

pats is gay tho like 200 bonez.. im not sure if its it or no but its gonna be a little risk.. i say have it done it could cost u less money and time.

1999cobra92 · December 6th, 2010, 11:26 AM

I'm thinking you have a bad fuse. You should check them

Trick Tuners · December 6th, 2010, 11:36 AM

I would suspect pats if the theft light flashes during cranking and the car doesn't start.

double0mustang · December 6th, 2010, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by 1999cobra92

I'm thinking you have a bad fuse. You should check them

checked all the fuses one by one and nothing wrong with it.

does anyone know if the fuel pump is supposed to prime when PATS is activated?

because even before I had any of this problems the fuel pump wouldn't prime.

Mr. Red Pony · December 6th, 2010, 10:55 PM

Keep it simple stupid. Easy stuff first. (these are just saying btw) People blame what they know least. So don't just assume it is the most complicated thing. If you have a tuner, get a tune that disables PATS.

double0mustang · December 7th, 2010, 06:56 PM

so if the I can't get communication to my odbII what makes you think I will be able to work my way around it with a tuner smart one.

Mr. Red Pony · December 7th, 2010, 10:56 PM

MAKE it get communication.

Puffy93 · December 7th, 2010, 11:12 PM

When PATS has a problem doesn't the dealer have to reprogram it and to do this it requires them to use the OBD II port to reprogram it so it does have communication it just won't give out information to any old scanner you might need a ford scanner or a tunner might work. I'm just saying don't rule that out. I could be whong on that to so don't hold me to that.

double0mustang · December 8th, 2010, 08:00 PM

I just thought about doing the odometer diagnostic you know hold the reset button while turning the key to the on position and I got a code dtcd 9681 and dtcd9232 -after a quick google search I found out that those 2 codes are for the PATS transceiver so in other words the transceiver needs to be replaced so I'm going to be changing that during the weekend and hopefully that'll fix the problem.

I did read in a few posts that the transceiver doesn't need to be programmed. so we'll see how it goes.

double0mustang · December 8th, 2010, 08:01 PM

I just thought about doing the odometer diagnostic you know hold the reset button while turning the key to the on position and I got a code dtcd 9681 and dtcd9232 -after a quick google search I found out that those 2 codes are for the PATS transceiver so in other words the transceiver needs to be replaced so I'm going to be changing that during the weekend and hopefully that'll fix the problem.

I did read in a few posts that the transceiver doesn't need to be programmed. so we'll see how it goes.

December 6th, 2010, 12:34 AM	#1
double0mustang Regular 00 Mustang Convertible Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton, Ca. Posts: 50 iTrader: 0 reviews	pats- I'm still working on my car the fuel pump doesn't even prime.. I changed the fuel pump and nothing, changed the ccrm and still nothing changed the FPDM and nope nothing.. (inertia switch is working properly also) my theft light is blinking and my odometer reads ------- instead of numbers - this happened after i had a short by the fuel pump connector located under the license plate by the fuel tank. obdII reads no link so tomorrow i'm picking up a ECU at a local wrecking yard to see if it even connects to the obdII . I thought about the PATS system being engaged but after seeing a few videos on youtube I realized that the fuel pump will prime and let the car start and after a second or two the engine will shut off correct? so my next thing to do is retrace all the wiring and my only guess would be a bad ground connection somewhere .. my cd player was stolen and they did yank the wires out (bastards) so can that be a problem ?

December 6th, 2010, 10:43 AM	#3
xn1919 Regular 2000 mustang Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: kentucky Posts: 113 iTrader: 0 reviews	pats is gay tho like 200 bonez.. im not sure if its it or no but its gonna be a little risk.. i say have it done it could cost u less money and time. __________________ visco

December 6th, 2010, 11:26 AM	#4
1999cobra92 Enthusiast 1999 mustang cobra Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 882 iTrader: 1 reviews	I'm thinking you have a bad fuse. You should check them __________________ Black and White Crew Crew Member # 5 Check garage for mods and pics if you Los Angeles and want to ride send me a text (323) 270-6827 0% Wheel hop, 0% broken parts, 100% wheel spin

December 6th, 2010, 11:36 AM	#5
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,467 iTrader: 3 reviews	I would suspect pats if the theft light flashes during cranking and the car doesn't start. __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

December 6th, 2010, 10:55 PM	#7
Mr. Red Pony Resident badass 01 Built V6 (3.9) 13.91 @ 99.1 N/A Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lawton, Oklahomo Posts: 6,789 iTrader: 10 reviews	Keep it simple stupid. Easy stuff first. (these are just saying btw) People blame what they know least. So don't just assume it is the most complicated thing. If you have a tuner, get a tune that disables PATS. __________________ 271rwhp N/A V6 The Name is Danny. I'm a GM Technician. Suck it.

December 7th, 2010, 06:56 PM	#8
double0mustang Regular 00 Mustang Convertible Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton, Ca. Posts: 50 iTrader: 0 reviews	so if the I can't get communication to my odbII what makes you think I will be able to work my way around it with a tuner smart one.

December 7th, 2010, 10:56 PM	#9
Mr. Red Pony Resident badass 01 Built V6 (3.9) 13.91 @ 99.1 N/A Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lawton, Oklahomo Posts: 6,789 iTrader: 10 reviews	MAKE it get communication. __________________ 271rwhp N/A V6 The Name is Danny. I'm a GM Technician. Suck it.

December 7th, 2010, 11:12 PM	#10
Puffy93 Regular 94 v6 mustang Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	When PATS has a problem doesn't the dealer have to reprogram it and to do this it requires them to use the OBD II port to reprogram it so it does have communication it just won't give out information to any old scanner you might need a ford scanner or a tunner might work. I'm just saying don't rule that out. I could be whong on that to so don't hold me to that. __________________ 94 mustang 3.8 Steeda Tri-ax, FRPP aluminum driveshaft. Soon to get built 351W

December 8th, 2010, 08:00 PM	#11
double0mustang Regular 00 Mustang Convertible Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton, Ca. Posts: 50 iTrader: 0 reviews	I just thought about doing the odometer diagnostic you know hold the reset button while turning the key to the on position and I got a code dtcd 9681 and dtcd9232 -after a quick google search I found out that those 2 codes are for the PATS transceiver so in other words the transceiver needs to be replaced so I'm going to be changing that during the weekend and hopefully that'll fix the problem. I did read in a few posts that the transceiver doesn't need to be programmed. so we'll see how it goes.

December 8th, 2010, 08:01 PM	#12
double0mustang Regular 00 Mustang Convertible Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton, Ca. Posts: 50 iTrader: 0 reviews	I just thought about doing the odometer diagnostic you know hold the reset button while turning the key to the on position and I got a code dtcd 9681 and dtcd9232 -after a quick google search I found out that those 2 codes are for the PATS transceiver so in other words the transceiver needs to be replaced so I'm going to be changing that during the weekend and hopefully that'll fix the problem. I did read in a few posts that the transceiver doesn't need to be programmed. so we'll see how it goes.

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