Braking problem in the snow..

jakeabraham · December 10th, 2010, 11:00 PM

We had a decent amount of snow on the ground last night and it was my first time driving my mustang when the roads were slippery. Let me start this off by saying its almost impossible to drive in the snow. Secondly, when i tried braking and the car would slide a little, the brake pedal would like stick and vibrate really hard, and you couldnt press it anymore, it was almost like the brake pedal was trying to release but my foot was holding it back, it happened at a few stop signs and i was trying to see what the problem was, its weird. Does anybody have any idea what the problem could be?

Dfeeds · December 10th, 2010, 11:01 PM

Do you have anti-lock brakes?

jakeabraham · December 10th, 2010, 11:02 PM

not sure, its a 2003 V6 Mustang.

v6kid · December 10th, 2010, 11:07 PM

Sounds like ABS to me.

jakeabraham · December 10th, 2010, 11:10 PM

i dont think its normal, cause when it starts vibrating or whatever it sounds like somethings grinding.

Rich J · December 10th, 2010, 11:11 PM

Snow stuck in your wheels? You would probably have better luck without ABS honestly.

jakeabraham · December 10th, 2010, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by demon_54

Snow stuck in your wheels? You would probably have better luck without ABS honestly.

there wasnt THAT much snow.

Dfeeds · December 10th, 2010, 11:12 PM

Yeah that's why I asked lol. There should be an ABS light that will turn on when you start your car indicating that the system is working.

If you do, what you described is exactly what anti-lock brakes are. What they do is instead of just braking they will automatically pump the brakes for you when you push it to the floor. This is done because without the system, you would have to manually pump the brakes instead of having them lock up on you and send you in an uncontrollable. The system is a godsend in the winter but a real pain otherwise.

Everett · December 10th, 2010, 11:12 PM

Dude that's your anti locks kicking in... They are supposed to pulsate..

adryan · December 10th, 2010, 11:12 PM

ABS

WNTS 2RN · December 10th, 2010, 11:15 PM

I know I might get blasted for this but, try turning off the traction control (if you can) and just go real slow. When it's time to hit the brakes be real gentle on them. The ABS will respond to the wheels locking when in the snow. There is no where near the resitance in snow as there is on a dry road. Therefore it's much easier for you to "lock" the brakes in the snow.

adryan · December 10th, 2010, 11:20 PM

What is a "stop sign" ...

Everett · December 10th, 2010, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by adryan

What is a "stop sign" ...

Bahahaha

6ER THEN I 8ER! · December 10th, 2010, 11:28 PM

don't drive fast enough to have to put the brake in hard...just slow steady taps man

WNTS 2RN · December 10th, 2010, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by adryan

What is a "stop sign" ...

It's one of those things on the road that suggest you bring the vehicle to a stop. I like to think of them as glorified yield signs. Meaning that I don't ever really stop, but I take a good look at cross traffic before I continue.

adryan · December 10th, 2010, 11:38 PM

Is this "stop sign" something like that yellow light thingy where you have to go as fast as you can before it turns red?

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GreenMustang00 · December 10th, 2010, 11:40 PM

lol disconnect the ABS if you don't like it, I did.. ABS is overrated

adryan · December 10th, 2010, 11:53 PM

But seriously, I think your ABS may be kicking in if you have it. If it ain't it and u ain't stopping at all... something else's up. Also, If you have not done the "SNOW MOD" than try to get it done ASAP. Sandbags, weights, salt bags, dogfood bag, kitchen sink... whatever to give you rear traction is something to consider. I just put about 200 lbs of weights (and summer rim/tire) in the trunk and I also have ugly winter tires on steelies all around.

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GreenMustang00 · December 10th, 2010, 11:55 PM

Obviously its the ABS lol

Puffy93 · December 11th, 2010, 01:20 AM

yah it's the ABS. the pulsating you are fealing is normal, it's the valves in your ABS controler opening and closing to release the pressure in your brake lines therefore slowing your tires to unlock and regain traction. The grinding or groaning noise you are hearing is the pump kicking in to re-pressurize the system. Once again this is completely normal and when it does hapten you dont want to press the brake pedal harder it won't do anything. Just hold it how it was and let the ABS take over.

December 10th, 2010, 11:00 PM	#1
jakeabraham Regular 2003 Mustang V6 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Livonia, Michigan Posts: 101 iTrader: 0 reviews	Braking problem in the snow.. We had a decent amount of snow on the ground last night and it was my first time driving my mustang when the roads were slippery. Let me start this off by saying its almost impossible to drive in the snow. Secondly, when i tried braking and the car would slide a little, the brake pedal would like stick and vibrate really hard, and you couldnt press it anymore, it was almost like the brake pedal was trying to release but my foot was holding it back, it happened at a few stop signs and i was trying to see what the problem was, its weird. Does anybody have any idea what the problem could be? __________________

December 10th, 2010, 11:02 PM	#3
jakeabraham Regular 2003 Mustang V6 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Livonia, Michigan Posts: 101 iTrader: 0 reviews	not sure, its a 2003 V6 Mustang. __________________

December 10th, 2010, 11:07 PM	#4
v6kid Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang v6 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,725 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sounds like ABS to me. __________________ I went to school to be a mechanic, so I know what I'm talking about most of the time. mods in the garage, slowly getting peppier. 6ershootout.com summer of 2012... Be There

December 10th, 2010, 11:10 PM	#5
jakeabraham Regular 2003 Mustang V6 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Livonia, Michigan Posts: 101 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont think its normal, cause when it starts vibrating or whatever it sounds like somethings grinding. __________________

December 10th, 2010, 11:11 PM	#6
Rich J I'm doing it wrong 04 Grand Cherokee Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 5,211 iTrader: 0 reviews	Snow stuck in your wheels? You would probably have better luck without ABS honestly. __________________ Formerly known as Demon_54 "I feel the same way about disco as I do about herpes." - Hunter S. Thompson

December 10th, 2010, 11:01 PM	#2
Dfeeds Regular 1997 Mustang v6 manual Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 reviews	Do you have anti-lock brakes?

December 10th, 2010, 11:12 PM	#8
Dfeeds Regular 1997 Mustang v6 manual Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah that's why I asked lol. There should be an ABS light that will turn on when you start your car indicating that the system is working. If you do, what you described is exactly what anti-lock brakes are. What they do is instead of just braking they will automatically pump the brakes for you when you push it to the floor. This is done because without the system, you would have to manually pump the brakes instead of having them lock up on you and send you in an uncontrollable. The system is a godsend in the winter but a real pain otherwise.

December 10th, 2010, 11:12 PM	#9
Everett Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 gt Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Saskatoon Posts: 1,053 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	Dude that's your anti locks kicking in... They are supposed to pulsate.. __________________ Black and White Crew Crew Member # 3 centerforce dual friction,.100 shot freeflow exhaust,70mm accufab tb,professional products plenum, tri ax,3.90s amazing how fast you can go when the road never curves .....lighting up the Canadian prairie

December 10th, 2010, 11:12 PM	#10
adryan Regular 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 249 iTrader: 0 reviews	ABS __________________ 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edition \| 1968 Mustang RS \|1980 Datsun 280 ZX \| 1977 Camaro with '85 Intercooler Engine \| 1971 Cadillac 472 cu.in. (7.7L) Engine \| 1973 Mustang 5.0 Ragtop

December 10th, 2010, 11:15 PM	#11
WNTS 2RN Hardcore Enthusiast 2011 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: US Navy Goat Locker Posts: 1,591 iTrader: 0 reviews	I know I might get blasted for this but, try turning off the traction control (if you can) and just go real slow. When it's time to hit the brakes be real gentle on them. The ABS will respond to the wheels locking when in the snow. There is no where near the resitance in snow as there is on a dry road. Therefore it's much easier for you to "lock" the brakes in the snow. __________________ 2011 5.0 1.3 gallons of American performance!! K&N drop in (I know, I'm cheap) Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust H&R Super Sport springs Bremmer BR01 19x8, 19x9.5 wheels Bottomless bottle of soap!

December 10th, 2010, 11:20 PM	#12
adryan Regular 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 249 iTrader: 0 reviews	What is a "stop sign" ... __________________ 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edition \| 1968 Mustang RS \|1980 Datsun 280 ZX \| 1977 Camaro with '85 Intercooler Engine \| 1971 Cadillac 472 cu.in. (7.7L) Engine \| 1973 Mustang 5.0 Ragtop

December 10th, 2010, 11:28 PM	#14
6ER THEN I 8ER! Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Portland, TN Posts: 17,515 iTrader: 3 reviews	don't drive fast enough to have to put the brake in hard...just slow steady taps man

December 10th, 2010, 11:38 PM	#16
adryan Regular 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 249 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is this "stop sign" something like that yellow light thingy where you have to go as fast as you can before it turns red? a __________________ 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edition \| 1968 Mustang RS \|1980 Datsun 280 ZX \| 1977 Camaro with '85 Intercooler Engine \| 1971 Cadillac 472 cu.in. (7.7L) Engine \| 1973 Mustang 5.0 Ragtop

December 10th, 2010, 11:40 PM	#17
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	lol disconnect the ABS if you don't like it, I did.. ABS is overrated __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

December 10th, 2010, 11:53 PM	#18
adryan Regular 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 249 iTrader: 0 reviews	But seriously, I think your ABS may be kicking in if you have it. If it ain't it and u ain't stopping at all... something else's up. Also, If you have not done the "SNOW MOD" than try to get it done ASAP. Sandbags, weights, salt bags, dogfood bag, kitchen sink... whatever to give you rear traction is something to consider. I just put about 200 lbs of weights (and summer rim/tire) in the trunk and I also have ugly winter tires on steelies all around. A . __________________ 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edition \| 1968 Mustang RS \|1980 Datsun 280 ZX \| 1977 Camaro with '85 Intercooler Engine \| 1971 Cadillac 472 cu.in. (7.7L) Engine \| 1973 Mustang 5.0 Ragtop

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December 10th, 2010, 11:55 PM	#19
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	Obviously its the ABS lol __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

December 11th, 2010, 01:20 AM	#20
Puffy93 Regular 94 v6 mustang Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	yah it's the ABS. the pulsating you are fealing is normal, it's the valves in your ABS controler opening and closing to release the pressure in your brake lines therefore slowing your tires to unlock and regain traction. The grinding or groaning noise you are hearing is the pump kicking in to re-pressurize the system. Once again this is completely normal and when it does hapten you dont want to press the brake pedal harder it won't do anything. Just hold it how it was and let the ABS take over. __________________ 94 mustang 3.8 Steeda Tri-ax, FRPP aluminum driveshaft. Soon to get built 351W

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