Automatic shifter Q's

99v6stang · April 18th, 2007, 06:25 PM

Alright, im looking at getting an automatic shifter (b&m console hammer) and i was wondering if manually shifting the automatic would hurt it at all. Also has anyone installed one, how hard is it to install? And about shift kits, are they any different than just using a tuner to adjust the shift points because i am getting an xcal 2 and dont wanna buy a shift kit as well if it doesnt help at all.

GreenFaleen · April 18th, 2007, 06:47 PM

up shifting is fine. You will need a shift kit if you want to downshift as well. A shift kit and a the x-cal will both help. The shift kit will make everything in the tranny able to take the manual shifting.

SPF0percent · April 18th, 2007, 09:02 PM

no lie these things sound so sweet

cominus · April 20th, 2007, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

up shifting is fine. You will need a shift kit if you want to downshift as well. A shift kit and a the x-cal will both help. The shift kit will make everything in the tranny able to take the manual shifting.

Well I dont know about the whole downshifting part, but I do know this, the way an auto shifter works is that it's controlled by some kind on hydrolic pump which allows it to shift gears, what a shift kit does is increase the pressure of the pump which will cause it to shift quicker eliminating the lag between gears. All a tuner will do is allow you to raise your shift point and pedal pressure. If you want a tuner I got one for sale.

GreenFaleen · April 20th, 2007, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by cominus

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

up shifting is fine. You will need a shift kit if you want to downshift as well. A shift kit and a the x-cal will both help. The shift kit will make everything in the tranny able to take the manual shifting.

Well I dont know about the whole downshifting part, but I do know this, the way an auto shifter works is that it's controlled by some kind on hydrolic pump which allows it to shift gears, what a shift kit does is increase the pressure of the pump which will cause it to shift quicker eliminating the lag between gears. All a tuner will do is allow you to raise your shift point and pedal pressure. If you want a tuner I got one for sale.

yeah the shiftkit also puts better bearing in and that increased pressure the car will understand the down shift where stock it will rev real high then kick down a gear really harshly from the lag

Steamboat 16 · April 20th, 2007, 11:46 PM

so then if i were thinking of putting one in my grand marquis would it go on the sterring colum or on the floor or what?

Onemanzu · April 20th, 2007, 11:51 PM

: ) they are built for the floor but that would be rad to have one on the column... yours doesn't come with the consule in the center? you could fab something up and borrow peices from other cars to make something custom that works for you

wannabeimportkiller · April 20th, 2007, 11:51 PM

wait wait, how do you manually shift an auto??? or is that just some weird term?

Onemanzu · April 20th, 2007, 11:53 PM

... their are drive gears... get in your moms mini van and look at the gear indicator it says something like

P
R
N
D
3
2
1

you can manually shift it between those first three gears and drive if you so choose but i think its dumb unless your tranny is built right... plus it has the chance of destroying something

wannabeimportkiller · April 20th, 2007, 11:57 PM

oo that, dude that sounds completely pointless.

Onemanzu · April 20th, 2007, 11:59 PM

it is kinda... if you are stuck in snow or have a trailer or something then its kinda useful... other wise its just extra abuse your car doesn't need

WLJohnson05 · April 21st, 2007, 12:42 AM

mine only has the p, r, n, d, 2, 1

wannabeimportkiller · April 21st, 2007, 12:44 AM

all mustangs only have the p r n d 2 1 there is no 3 i think he was just using it as an example

Onemanzu · April 21st, 2007, 12:44 AM

does it have and over drive option?

cams-shelbycobra07 · April 21st, 2007, 12:58 AM

the gt have 1,2,3,d,o/d

Steamboat 16 · April 21st, 2007, 01:01 AM

no it doesn't have a center consol, kinda like a truck, but the real reason you have that ability to shift manually is for if you are going down a steep grade over long periods of time so that you don't wear down or overheat your breaks, now on a little car like a stang it doesnt' really matter but on a truck or something heavyer it does

WLJohnson05 · April 21st, 2007, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by wannabeimportkiller

all mustangs only have the p r n d 2 1 there is no 3 i think he was just using it as an example

thas what i figured

yea we have OD the car automatically does it unless the button is turned off

the gts have a 3 and an OD shown on the shifter...i dont think so

Onemanzu · April 21st, 2007, 01:40 AM

mmk what the d is is 3rd gear and OD is fourth gear... in a sense... its a lil more complex but thats the easiest/best way to look at it

WLJohnson05 · April 21st, 2007, 01:53 AM

that makes sense

Onemanzu · April 21st, 2007, 01:59 AM

good cool... if you have more questions on why a tranny works... hollar and i can try to help

April 18th, 2007, 06:25 PM	#1
99v6stang Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 715	Automatic shifter Q's Alright, im looking at getting an automatic shifter (b&m console hammer) and i was wondering if manually shifting the automatic would hurt it at all. Also has anyone installed one, how hard is it to install? And about shift kits, are they any different than just using a tuner to adjust the shift points because i am getting an xcal 2 and dont wanna buy a shift kit as well if it doesnt help at all.

April 18th, 2007, 06:47 PM	#2
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April 20th, 2007, 11:46 PM	#6
Steamboat 16 Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Steamboat Springs, CO Posts: 689	so then if i were thinking of putting one in my grand marquis would it go on the sterring colum or on the floor or what? __________________ Sex, Eating, and Driving Fast, the Three Greats in life and I can do all of them without leaving my MGM

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April 21st, 2007, 12:44 AM	#13
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April 21st, 2007, 12:58 AM	#15
cams-shelbycobra07 Enthusiast 1991 LX, 2003 SNK, 2007 S 11.3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 956	the gt have 1,2,3,d,o/d

April 21st, 2007, 01:01 AM	#16
Steamboat 16 Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Steamboat Springs, CO Posts: 689	no it doesn't have a center consol, kinda like a truck, but the real reason you have that ability to shift manually is for if you are going down a steep grade over long periods of time so that you don't wear down or overheat your breaks, now on a little car like a stang it doesnt' really matter but on a truck or something heavyer it does __________________ Sex, Eating, and Driving Fast, the Three Greats in life and I can do all of them without leaving my MGM

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