What is safe?

Codeman · February 14th, 2011, 08:29 PM

Ok I am in the process of getting my "lumpy cam" I am installing comp 915 springs with my setup. I know that the cam on comp is rated from 1800-6200 rpms. I have ported lower intake with IMRCs removed, windstar upper. I am curious to what would be a safe rpm to run at? I mean for racing. I was thinking 6000 rpm would be a good rpm to set my shift light for? Or maybe 5700. I know I am upgrading the springs and cam but the stock rockers will still be used. What are your opinions on this?

ESG-642T · February 14th, 2011, 08:32 PM

Put it on a dyno, see where you stop making power, adjust as such.

theyanks904 · February 14th, 2011, 08:32 PM

ive got a 550. lift in my built motor and i took it to 6500 on the dyno many times never had a problem .... on a stock motor i wouldnt take it over 6

theyanks904 · February 14th, 2011, 08:33 PM

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theyanks904 · February 14th, 2011, 08:33 PM

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theyanks904 · February 14th, 2011, 08:35 PM

yea seeing the dyno would really be the best way to tell

Codeman · February 14th, 2011, 08:37 PM

ok well I don't have access to a dyno so what is a general rule of thumb for the stock rockers and internals? I am going to try to do it by traps in the 1/4mile with the rpms that should kind of work for showing where I am making power.

GreenMustang00 · February 14th, 2011, 08:40 PM

If you have a handheld can't you use livelink to sort of see where your power is ending.. I know it's nothing like a dyno.
I havent used it in ages so IDK

Codeman · February 14th, 2011, 08:46 PM

I am not sure on that.

ESG-642T · February 15th, 2011, 02:29 AM

I'm sure there is a dyno somewhere around you, who are you going to get to tune the car?

Tang Stang · February 15th, 2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by GreenMustang00

If you have a handheld can't you use livelink to sort of see where your power is ending.. I know it's nothing like a dyno.
I havent used it in ages so IDK

You can datalog the vehicle acceleration rate and adjust your shift points accordingly.

Codeman · February 15th, 2011, 06:53 PM

I am having joe at trick tuners do the datalog tuning. I am not taking it to a tuner.

GreenMustang00 · February 15th, 2011, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Tang Stang

You can datalog the vehicle acceleration rate and adjust your shift points accordingly.

I believe you can see your torque at the torque converter also..
Not sure on accuracy

Codeman · February 15th, 2011, 08:07 PM

I don't have a torque convertor. I have a manual trans. I will just do it by feel. You can kind of feel when the car starts to peak on power. I think I will be able to get close. I just want to know what is too far for the stock internals and stock pushrods and rockers?

GreenMustang00 · February 15th, 2011, 08:19 PM

The springs are the weak point from what I've heard
Also if your worried about it just up the pushrods. Rockers will be fine

I forgot you were a manual

Codeman · February 15th, 2011, 10:29 PM

I am getting the comp 915 springs so that will help on the springs. We will see on the pushrods maybe down the road. I am fricken excited to get my cam though. It will be a couple weeks. I asked for it for my bday and my parents kind of hinted that they were getting it. So me my dad and my uncle are gonna put it in, so that will be fun!!!! Man's night haha.

GreenMustang00 · February 15th, 2011, 10:43 PM

Ls6 springs are cheaper... I have ls6 springs in my car and the 918s in my toolbox :p

Codeman · February 15th, 2011, 11:50 PM

hahaha I know the ls6 springs are cheaper. Well I ordered some through summit they were supposed to be 1.290 outside and .885 inside. Well the first ones were 1.250 outside and didn't fit over my guide. Then they were supposed to measure and send out if they measure right they sent out, the springs were identical. So I told the guy that they are retarded and I just want all my money back and the shipping back I am just going to order from comp. Ya so it has been now 3 weeks just for springs one week waiting for the first ones from summit one week waiting for the second ones, and now one week for the comp ones.

GreenMustang00 · February 15th, 2011, 11:58 PM

I saw that thread. I ordered mine same time you did pretty much.. I did overnight shipping though

.. Mine fit fine though... Close but fine. You sure you don't have different guides?

Codeman · February 16th, 2011, 11:54 AM

I dont know but they listed them as 1.290 and I measured both sets at 1.250 and they didn't fit over my guides. Comp lists theirs as 1.290 outside and .885 inside so I would think those would fit. Lets hope!!! If not I am going to just maching the guides down in class.

February 14th, 2011, 08:29 PM	#1
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	What is safe? Ok I am in the process of getting my "lumpy cam" I am installing comp 915 springs with my setup. I know that the cam on comp is rated from 1800-6200 rpms. I have ported lower intake with IMRCs removed, windstar upper. I am curious to what would be a safe rpm to run at? I mean for racing. I was thinking 6000 rpm would be a good rpm to set my shift light for? Or maybe 5700. I know I am upgrading the springs and cam but the stock rockers will still be used. What are your opinions on this? __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

February 14th, 2011, 08:32 PM	#2
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,319 iTrader: 0 reviews	Put it on a dyno, see where you stop making power, adjust as such. __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

February 14th, 2011, 08:37 PM	#7
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	ok well I don't have access to a dyno so what is a general rule of thumb for the stock rockers and internals? I am going to try to do it by traps in the 1/4mile with the rpms that should kind of work for showing where I am making power. __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

February 14th, 2011, 08:40 PM	#8
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	If you have a handheld can't you use livelink to sort of see where your power is ending.. I know it's nothing like a dyno. I havent used it in ages so IDK __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

February 14th, 2011, 08:46 PM	#9
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	I am not sure on that. __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

February 14th, 2011, 08:32 PM	#3
theyanks904 Regular 1996 ford mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: land o lakes FL Posts: 268 iTrader: 0 reviews	ive got a 550. lift in my built motor and i took it to 6500 on the dyno many times never had a problem .... on a stock motor i wouldnt take it over 6

February 14th, 2011, 08:33 PM	#4
theyanks904 Regular 1996 ford mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: land o lakes FL Posts: 268 iTrader: 0 reviews	-

February 14th, 2011, 08:35 PM	#6
theyanks904 Regular 1996 ford mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: land o lakes FL Posts: 268 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea seeing the dyno would really be the best way to tell

February 15th, 2011, 02:29 AM	#10
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,319 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm sure there is a dyno somewhere around you, who are you going to get to tune the car? __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

February 15th, 2011, 06:53 PM	#12
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	I am having joe at trick tuners do the datalog tuning. I am not taking it to a tuner. __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

February 15th, 2011, 08:07 PM	#14
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	I don't have a torque convertor. I have a manual trans. I will just do it by feel. You can kind of feel when the car starts to peak on power. I think I will be able to get close. I just want to know what is too far for the stock internals and stock pushrods and rockers? __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

February 15th, 2011, 08:19 PM	#15
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	The springs are the weak point from what I've heard Also if your worried about it just up the pushrods. Rockers will be fine I forgot you were a manual __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

February 15th, 2011, 10:29 PM	#16
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	I am getting the comp 915 springs so that will help on the springs. We will see on the pushrods maybe down the road. I am fricken excited to get my cam though. It will be a couple weeks. I asked for it for my bday and my parents kind of hinted that they were getting it. So me my dad and my uncle are gonna put it in, so that will be fun!!!! Man's night haha. __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

February 15th, 2011, 10:43 PM	#17
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	Ls6 springs are cheaper... I have ls6 springs in my car and the 918s in my toolbox :p __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

February 15th, 2011, 11:50 PM	#18
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	hahaha I know the ls6 springs are cheaper. Well I ordered some through summit they were supposed to be 1.290 outside and .885 inside. Well the first ones were 1.250 outside and didn't fit over my guide. Then they were supposed to measure and send out if they measure right they sent out, the springs were identical. So I told the guy that they are retarded and I just want all my money back and the shipping back I am just going to order from comp. Ya so it has been now 3 weeks just for springs one week waiting for the first ones from summit one week waiting for the second ones, and now one week for the comp ones. __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

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February 15th, 2011, 11:58 PM	#19
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	I saw that thread. I ordered mine same time you did pretty much.. I did overnight shipping though .. Mine fit fine though... Close but fine. You sure you don't have different guides? __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

February 16th, 2011, 11:54 AM	#20
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	I dont know but they listed them as 1.290 and I measured both sets at 1.250 and they didn't fit over my guides. Comp lists theirs as 1.290 outside and .885 inside so I would think those would fit. Lets hope!!! If not I am going to just maching the guides down in class. __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

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