Best SC and turbo
Forums at Modded Mustangs
Home Register FAQ Members List Calendar Blogs Garage Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Insurance


Go Back   Forums at Modded Mustangs > Mustang Forums > V6 Mustangs

ModdedMustangs.com is the premier Ford Mustang Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old March 2nd, 2011, 12:48 AM   #1
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa, Fl GO BULLS
Posts: 388
focus0frenzy1 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Best SC and turbo


I want to know what the best super charger and turbo chargers are. I dont want to compare the two but i'd like to know hoq each kit will perform. I have a 2004 5spd mustang, its a 3.9. It is my daily driver right now with about 80k.
Id like the $new of the kits, what all the parts id need to change and what power i will get in return for the $$$.

THANKS
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old March 2nd, 2011, 01:01 AM   #2
[8MINUS2]
 
ESG-642T's Avatar
 
2002, Ford, v6
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 12,317
ESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to all
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to ESG-642T Send a message via Yahoo to ESG-642T
Default

Your question has no real answer for what's tthe best. Price completed can rang from 2000 up to about 6
__________________

Hi, You can call me Kyle
Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular.

WTB: v6 BBK valve covers
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 01:11 AM   #3
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa, Fl GO BULLS
Posts: 388
focus0frenzy1 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

im asking opinionw on different kits
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 01:33 AM   #4
[8MINUS2]
 
ESG-642T's Avatar
 
2002, Ford, v6
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 12,317
ESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to all
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to ESG-642T Send a message via Yahoo to ESG-642T
Default

Vortech - great kit , no intercooler
Procharger - great kit, intercooled, blower is slightly less efficient but the i/c more than makes up for it (can also upgrade to D1)
M112 - decent kit, unique, no intercooler
M90 - intercooled kit off super coupe, great starter kit for a dd. *hard to put together*

Turbo: current production, nobody. Or find somebody who can/will make you a kit. As long as its made "properly" then it > the above
__________________

Hi, You can call me Kyle
Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular.

WTB: v6 BBK valve covers
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 12:08 PM   #5
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa, Fl GO BULLS
Posts: 388
focus0frenzy1 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by ESG-642T View Post
Vortech - great kit , no intercooler
Procharger - great kit, intercooled, blower is slightly less efficient but the i/c more than makes up for it (can also upgrade to D1)
M112 - decent kit, unique, no intercooler
M90 - intercooled kit off super coupe, great starter kit for a dd. *hard to put together*

Turbo: current production, nobody. Or find somebody who can/will make you a kit. As long as its made "properly" then it > the above

so theres no turbo kits that are in production? what kind of power do each of these s/c put out
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 12:39 PM   #6
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
2000stallion's Avatar
 
2000 Mustang
slow@slow
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 2,000
2000stallion will become famous soon enough2000stallion will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by focus0frenzy1 View Post
so theres no turbo kits that are in production? what kind of power do each of these s/c put out
TMA turbo was supposed to start up in december...then in january...Most likely wont know until he actually starts again. As for power, it depends on what you put on with it and how much psi you want to run.
__________________
For Sale:
99-04 smoked tail light covers
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 12:40 PM   #7
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
2000stallion's Avatar
 
2000 Mustang
slow@slow
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 2,000
2000stallion will become famous soon enough2000stallion will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by ESG-642T View Post
Vortech - great kit , no intercooler
eh?
__________________
For Sale:
99-04 smoked tail light covers
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 04:17 PM   #8
I Post Entirely Way Too Much
 
mustangmike!'s Avatar
 
2004,1994,1967
14.37 @ 96
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 6,015
mustangmike! is a jewel in the roughmustangmike! is a jewel in the roughmustangmike! is a jewel in the rough
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

why do you want FI ?
how much do you have to spend?
What kind of power are you looking for ?
DD or strict Race ?
__________________
227whp N/A V6
Now w/ 8th Mile 8s !



How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 04:24 PM   #9
[8MINUS2]
 
ESG-642T's Avatar
 
2002, Ford, v6
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 12,317
ESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to all
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to ESG-642T Send a message via Yahoo to ESG-642T
Default

Originally Posted by mustangmike! View Post
why do you want FI ?
how much do you have to spend?
What kind of power are you looking for ?
DD or strict Race ?

Is there a question to "why do you want fi?"
__________________

Hi, You can call me Kyle
Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular.

WTB: v6 BBK valve covers
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 04:41 PM   #10
I Post Entirely Way Too Much
 
mustangmike!'s Avatar
 
2004,1994,1967
14.37 @ 96
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 6,015
mustangmike! is a jewel in the roughmustangmike! is a jewel in the roughmustangmike! is a jewel in the rough
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

yes, spray might be a better option for him
__________________
227whp N/A V6
Now w/ 8th Mile 8s !



How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 05:44 PM   #11
The Aviator
 
solidhadriel's Avatar
 
2011 3.7 Mustang
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Southern Cali
Posts: 1,656
solidhadriel is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

And here I'm waiting for STS to release their turbo kit ...
__________________


Click here for my build thread!
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 09:38 PM   #12
I Post Entirely Way Too Much
 
mustangmike!'s Avatar
 
2004,1994,1967
14.37 @ 96
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 6,015
mustangmike! is a jewel in the roughmustangmike! is a jewel in the roughmustangmike! is a jewel in the rough
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

you see the (i think procharger) dyno video that was posted like a month or so ago. over 400hp at the wheels
__________________
227whp N/A V6
Now w/ 8th Mile 8s !



How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 09:55 PM   #13
Resident badass
 
Mr. Red Pony's Avatar
 
01 Built V6 (3.9)
13.91 @ 99.1 N/A
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Lawton, Oklahomo
Posts: 6,788
Mr. Red Pony is just really niceMr. Red Pony is just really niceMr. Red Pony is just really niceMr. Red Pony is just really nice
iTrader: 10 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Mr. Red Pony Send a message via Yahoo to Mr. Red Pony
Default

N/A man. Forged High comp with spray.
__________________

271rwhp N/A V6


The Name is Danny. I'm a GM Technician.
Suck it.
  Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 09:57 PM   #14
[8MINUS2]
 
ESG-642T's Avatar
 
2002, Ford, v6
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 12,317
ESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to allESG-642T is a name known to all
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to ESG-642T Send a message via Yahoo to ESG-642T
Default

Originally Posted by Mr. Red Pony View Post
N/A man. Forged High comp with spray.
Ah, I'm winning *turbo spool* ha I'm still w... wtf.... damn it!!!!!!!!!!!
__________________

Hi, You can call me Kyle
Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular.

WTB: v6 BBK valve covers
  Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2011, 02:38 AM   #15
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa, Fl GO BULLS
Posts: 388
focus0frenzy1 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

dont want spray. looking for a daily driver with some power. 350-400rwhp would be nice. What do i need to get my car in that range. will the 7.5 rear end handle that?

i wish i could get those numbers with the car being n/a but thats impossible on the v6
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2011, 11:27 AM   #16
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
2000stallion's Avatar
 
2000 Mustang
slow@slow
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 2,000
2000stallion will become famous soon enough2000stallion will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by focus0frenzy1 View Post
dont want spray. looking for a daily driver with some power. 350-400rwhp would be nice. What do i need to get my car in that range. will the 7.5 rear end handle that?

i wish i could get those numbers with the car being n/a but thats impossible on the v6
the 7.5 would need to be swapped out with an 8.8. To get your car in that range....FI.
__________________
For Sale:
99-04 smoked tail light covers
  Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2011, 05:34 PM   #17
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
Codeman's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 2,933
Codeman will become famous soon enoughCodeman will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

You don't need to swap out the 7.5 if your driving on the street. Just get a detroit tru trac. It will hold up especially for street use.

And if you only want that much just get a SC unless you can find a cheap turbo kit.

Turbo is by far the best bet for almost any vehicle out there. A turbo is the most efficient means of FI and there is no denying that. No matter what vehicle no matter what a SC car same HP vs a Turbo car same HP turbo will win if everything else is the same. I mean turbo will win thatt was phrased retarded.

And as far as NA that is just as expensive as building a turbo kit and you can easily get 350-400 rwhp for the same as 260-300 rwhp of NA. Plus a turbo is much better for DD than high compression crazy cam NA.

All just my 2 cents
__________________

UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors
  Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2011, 07:43 PM   #18
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
2000stallion's Avatar
 
2000 Mustang
slow@slow
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 2,000
2000stallion will become famous soon enough2000stallion will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

a 7.5 holding 350-400 hp? I just dont like the sounds of that. Even for street use.
__________________
For Sale:
99-04 smoked tail light covers
  Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2011, 08:09 PM   #19
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
Codeman's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 2,933
Codeman will become famous soon enoughCodeman will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

talk to JT on here. He runs a 7.5 with tru trac and DRs on the track with his stalled auto D1 procharged mustang. I think he is pushing like 370 + to the wheels and he is using it and launching on the track, I think he has a 3000 stall convertor. I am not positive.

I think that if you don't plan on going to the track you will not have a problem with the tru trac. And even if you did it still should be fine. If you are only going to drive it on the street you won't get enough traction to even hook up with a turbo. Also just add some suspension work so you don't have any wheel hop that is what snaps pinion gears and chews teeth of ring gears.

I would not suspect a street tired car breaking a 7.5 with tru trac. Obviously it is up to the OP.

If he can find a used 8.8 then go for it but the 8.8 has the same 28 spline axles and the same weak tlok that most 7.5's use. A tru trac uses gears and is much tougher and it doesn't have the weak clutches of the tlok which burn up.
__________________

UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors
  Reply With Quote
Old March 4th, 2011, 02:53 AM   #20
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa, Fl GO BULLS
Posts: 388
focus0frenzy1 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by Codeman View Post
You don't need to swap out the 7.5 if your driving on the street. Just get a detroit tru trac. It will hold up especially for street use.

And if you only want that much just get a SC unless you can find a cheap turbo kit.

Turbo is by far the best bet for almost any vehicle out there. A turbo is the most efficient means of FI and there is no denying that. No matter what vehicle no matter what a SC car same HP vs a Turbo car same HP turbo will win if everything else is the same. I mean turbo will win thatt was phrased retarded.

And as far as NA that is just as expensive as building a turbo kit and you can easily get 350-400 rwhp for the same as 260-300 rwhp of NA. Plus a turbo is much better for DD than high compression crazy cam NA.

All just my 2 cents
yes i know a turbo is better. but is it better for the $$$ difference? what does a average dd v6 with a s/c and one with a turbo put out? whats the cost difference.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools


Threads Similar to: Best SC and turbo
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dyno results from new CEA 67mm Billet Turbo from Precision Turbo 499whp 552wtrq 13psi Turblow 99-04 18 November 9th, 2010 09:12 PM
Turbo timers and Boost Controllers? Turbo guys where you at? 95StangSVT General Tech 14 July 11th, 2008 07:01 AM
Mellon's Twin Turbo Stealth vs Wills99z's Single Turbo z28 Mellon Videos 10 December 30th, 2006 10:05 AM
Super Charger vs Turbo/Twin Turbo: Pros and Cons of each FireryDriver 2005 - 2010 9 September 17th, 2006 04:15 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:02 PM.
Modded Mustangs is ©2005-2008, All Rights Reserved, And is Not Affiliated with Ford Motor Company.
Forum is powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Ent. Ltd. & SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.

powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Ent. Ltd.