should i? (engine)

6ixer · March 17th, 2011, 11:45 AM

Now I may come across stupid when I post the link but I was bored and was on CL I don't know why but I was and I cam across this lol

Mustang Motor and Parts

Sure id need a new rear end
Engine mounts new comp ecu and other harnesses and a lot of otheer stuff but who's to say I can buy it and leave it on the engine lift and SLOWLYa work on it

My big question(s) is. Is it a some what good idea and just work on it bit by bit and will my tranny bolt up and....hold? And what could I do if not

AndyG47 · March 17th, 2011, 11:58 AM

Auto or stick? You'll need a different bellhousing either way.

The WC T5's have a low rating at 325TQ

The 4R70W Auto went into F150's as well as the 'Stang, but they had stronger gear sets. My F150 is rated at 350TQ and it holds so.........

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6ixer · March 17th, 2011, 12:04 PM

So it will bolt up and its a stick and I'm still debating on it, if I buy it won't go into the car till late fall j/s anything else I sholu know

AndyG47 · March 17th, 2011, 12:23 PM

Not familiar with a swap like that. The 302 was carried into the SN95 platform for a couple years before Ford switched over to the 4.6 Mod motor. But you will need everything you already said:

Motor mounts
Heavier rear axle. I can't see the 7.5 holding up very long.
Computer/ECU
Electrical harnesses
Bulk up the T5 in your car. If that 302 is pushing 345HP the torque will be at least 20 more at 365 if not more.
etc.

AndyG47 · March 17th, 2011, 12:25 PM

Although for that price you could go to a salvage yard and pull a 4.6 out of a trashed GT and build that up into a decent engine. That would be an easier swap.

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6ixer · March 17th, 2011, 02:14 PM

The 4.6 easier swap only cuz of a donor car or cuz its just...easier

mustangmike! · March 17th, 2011, 02:49 PM

Buy a GT and put your fendors and body parts on it .... much easier !

lol and i do believe you need a new K member too

and remember this: a T5 and a WC T5 are the same tranny. Its just the internals are different. but im sure T5's were put in plenty of other things too, but you dont know the difference in the internals of those other vehicles.

a 4r70w in a V6 mustang may have comepletely different and weaker internals than a f150 with 300+ TQ

AndyG47 · March 17th, 2011, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by 6ixer

The 4.6 easier swap only cuz of a donor car or cuz its just...easier

Easier because the GT and Sixer are basically the same car and are built right next to each other on the same assembly line. Plus this has been done thousands of times before with a ton more info out there. Have guys dropped 302's and 351's from vintage Mustangs into our year cars? Yep. However it's more common to do the GT swap route. You might get lucky and find a 5.4 Cobra rotting in a cornfield somewhere. That's get you booking.

Originally Posted by mustangmike!

.........and remember this: a T5 and a WC T5 are the same tranny. Its just the internals are different. but im sure T5's were put in plenty of other things too, but you dont know the difference in the internals of those other vehicles.

a 4r70w in a V6 mustang may have comepletely different and weaker internals than a f150 with 300+ TQ

Yep. The T5 and WC T5's are essentially the same, it's just that the WC versions are newer and have sturdier parts inside and can hold better.

As for the 4R70W I guess i was a bit confusing with my first statement

Originally Posted by AndyG47

.........The 4R70W Auto went into F150's as well as the 'Stang, but they had stronger gear sets..........

I was saying the F150 version IS stronger. The engineers did do their homework on that one.

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ESG-642T · March 17th, 2011, 04:08 PM

wouldn't do it....

buy a cheap 302 and craigslist a vortech .....

GreenMustang00 · March 17th, 2011, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by ESG-642T

wouldn't do it....

buy a cheap 302 and craigslist a vortech .....

My buddy bro did a built 302 into his new edge..... He has said several times that it would have been way smarter for a 4.6 or 4v 4.6 swap

9986paulk · March 17th, 2011, 08:08 PM

I thought the f150 had the 4r75w? Maybe i'm wromg...but I do know these 4r70w trans will hold up to 450, I looked into it before. You can put a trickflow top end kit on the 4.6 and have probably a 400 hp engine. But instead of the top end kit I'd just do FI of some sort to about 400 rwhp, since that's about what the 4.6 is good for. I just say that because tht's what I'm doing except I WANT a 5 or 6 speed thatll hold up. It's expensive though, for a god tranny

BlueScreaM · March 17th, 2011, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by GreenMustang00

My buddy bro did a built 302 into his new edge..... He has said several times that it would have been way smarter for a 4.6 or 4v 4.6 swap

the 302 will mate to the tranny nicely.

GreenMustang00 · March 17th, 2011, 08:27 PM

I believe his bro had a t5 but he doesn't expect it to last too long lmao

I love the 5.0 sound though

6ixer · March 17th, 2011, 10:54 PM

Like I want a v8 but I don't know if I'm "ready"....I mean like ready as in to go out and buy a new er car again I just whent from my 97 sixer to this 00 I'm driving and I bought it roughly 4 months ago mabey 3

Id figured some what, that it would be easier and by easier I meany easier on $$$ to buy a creat engine or a block and just build on it bit by bit but we all know engine swaping isn't always easy and I didn't mean psyhically easier

henry03250 · March 18th, 2011, 05:01 PM

Honestly, keep your six as a nice daily driver, find a gt fox with bad motor for cheap, put that motor in it for a weekender and/or project.

March 17th, 2011, 11:45 AM	#1
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	should i? (engine) Now I may come across stupid when I post the link but I was bored and was on CL I don't know why but I was and I cam across this lol Mustang Motor and Parts Sure id need a new rear end Engine mounts new comp ecu and other harnesses and a lot of otheer stuff but who's to say I can buy it and leave it on the engine lift and SLOWLYa work on it My big question(s) is. Is it a some what good idea and just work on it bit by bit and will my tranny bolt up and....hold? And what could I do if not __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

March 17th, 2011, 12:04 PM	#3
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	So it will bolt up and its a stick and I'm still debating on it, if I buy it won't go into the car till late fall j/s anything else I sholu know __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

March 17th, 2011, 02:14 PM	#6
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	The 4.6 easier swap only cuz of a donor car or cuz its just...easier __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

March 17th, 2011, 02:49 PM	#7
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	Buy a GT and put your fendors and body parts on it .... much easier ! lol and i do believe you need a new K member too and remember this: a T5 and a WC T5 are the same tranny. Its just the internals are different. but im sure T5's were put in plenty of other things too, but you dont know the difference in the internals of those other vehicles. a 4r70w in a V6 mustang may have comepletely different and weaker internals than a f150 with 300+ TQ __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

March 17th, 2011, 04:08 PM	#9
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,319 iTrader: 0 reviews	wouldn't do it.... buy a cheap 302 and craigslist a vortech ..... __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

March 17th, 2011, 08:08 PM	#11
9986paulk Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 1,226 iTrader: 3 reviews	I thought the f150 had the 4r75w? Maybe i'm wromg...but I do know these 4r70w trans will hold up to 450, I looked into it before. You can put a trickflow top end kit on the 4.6 and have probably a 400 hp engine. But instead of the top end kit I'd just do FI of some sort to about 400 rwhp, since that's about what the 4.6 is good for. I just say that because tht's what I'm doing except I WANT a 5 or 6 speed thatll hold up. It's expensive though, for a god tranny __________________ Twin Turbo

March 17th, 2011, 08:27 PM	#13
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	I believe his bro had a t5 but he doesn't expect it to last too long lmao I love the 5.0 sound though __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

March 17th, 2011, 10:54 PM	#14
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	Like I want a v8 but I don't know if I'm "ready"....I mean like ready as in to go out and buy a new er car again I just whent from my 97 sixer to this 00 I'm driving and I bought it roughly 4 months ago mabey 3 Id figured some what, that it would be easier and by easier I meany easier on $$$ to buy a creat engine or a block and just build on it bit by bit but we all know engine swaping isn't always easy and I didn't mean psyhically easier __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

March 18th, 2011, 05:01 PM	#15
henry03250 Regular 85 Gt, 95 Gt Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 50 iTrader: 0 reviews	Honestly, keep your six as a nice daily driver, find a gt fox with bad motor for cheap, put that motor in it for a weekender and/or project. __________________ Only a true car enthusiast can appreciate any car.

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