windstar/heads question

6ixer · March 22nd, 2011, 04:43 PM

Ok so I've been saving up laltey for a windstar intake and a tuner, so I figured why not put my goal at 1k savings sence u figure the kit on vap auto is like 415 or somthing and the sct tuner from americanmuscle is mid 300.00s (I think)

So my question is sence I'm going to take the stock upper off and replace it with the windstar shuold I just go one step furthur and take my cyl heads off and get them ported at a machine shop
(Am I using the correct termenology?)
The shop tht will be doing my exhaust also does machine work and says he can port/machine my heads and everything if the $ is right should I do it and hell give him the lower intake to port

What gains can I get from tht...like roughly wat number increase

southfour! · March 22nd, 2011, 04:46 PM

How much would the machine shop be charging you? I would talk to ESG he probably has the best price out of anyone.

mustangmike! · March 22nd, 2011, 05:01 PM

well .... if you put it that way .... you might as well go with larger valves, Full P&P, P&P the stocker might be better in the end (maybe im not sure), then you might as well just cam it.

6ixer · March 22nd, 2011, 05:46 PM

Well the way I see it is either have them do there work on my stock heads or buy the fully ported heads from ssm then cam it cuz we all know tht stage 3 heads will complement the cam nicely with more air....

6ixer · March 22nd, 2011, 05:47 PM

But how much can he do to the stock heads I'm assuming u can't increase the valvue size on the stock heads?

How much can u gain from ported stock heads?

southfour! · March 22nd, 2011, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by 6ixer

But how much can he do to the stock heads I'm assuming u can't increase the valvue size on the stock heads?

How much can u gain from ported stock heads?

No matter what you do to your heads your going to start with a pair of stockers.

Im not sure on the exact gains

you could go all out with some 1.94/1.56 valves but those are quite expensive, $450 for just the valves

Lumoon · March 22nd, 2011, 06:58 PM

what kind of numbers are we talking here?

I'd really like to see someone with numbers on the windstar and the port job, as well as a comparable price tag.

southfour! · March 22nd, 2011, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Lumoon

what kind of numbers are we talking here?

I'd really like to see someone with numbers on the windstar and the port job, as well as a comparable price tag.

not sure on exact numbers but

$600- $2000+ depending on what heads you get

mustangmike! · March 22nd, 2011, 09:40 PM

6stang99 had a good example, 238rwhp w/ a nice dyno tune.

Im currently doing a 4.2 swap w/ full P&P heads and intakes, windstar upper, udp 25%, custom cam, tune. Ill let you know the numbers asap

6ixer · March 22nd, 2011, 09:47 PM

Well I can tell you wat I'm gunna do

Windstar upper
Ported heads (done at machine shope)

Or if I have the $$
Windstar upper
And sage three heads from ssm ....the valvue size u mentioned is the stage 3 there about 450 ea. Lol

Nukka · March 22nd, 2011, 10:41 PM

instead of buying the tuner off american muscle, u should wait till one pops up on ebay or craigslist to save money for your other mods, picked up my tuner for 150

March 22nd, 2011, 04:43 PM	#1
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	windstar/heads question Ok so I've been saving up laltey for a windstar intake and a tuner, so I figured why not put my goal at 1k savings sence u figure the kit on vap auto is like 415 or somthing and the sct tuner from americanmuscle is mid 300.00s (I think) So my question is sence I'm going to take the stock upper off and replace it with the windstar shuold I just go one step furthur and take my cyl heads off and get them ported at a machine shop (Am I using the correct termenology?) The shop tht will be doing my exhaust also does machine work and says he can port/machine my heads and everything if the $ is right should I do it and hell give him the lower intake to port What gains can I get from tht...like roughly wat number increase __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

March 22nd, 2011, 04:46 PM	#2
southfour! Not Banned 2000 Mustang V6 2000 Silverado 1500 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,552 iTrader: 3 reviews	How much would the machine shop be charging you? I would talk to ESG he probably has the best price out of anyone. __________________ H/C/I V6 BMC Member: 12521 Cam Video My Build Thread

March 22nd, 2011, 05:01 PM	#3
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	well .... if you put it that way .... you might as well go with larger valves, Full P&P, P&P the stocker might be better in the end (maybe im not sure), then you might as well just cam it. __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

March 22nd, 2011, 05:46 PM	#4
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well the way I see it is either have them do there work on my stock heads or buy the fully ported heads from ssm then cam it cuz we all know tht stage 3 heads will complement the cam nicely with more air.... __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

March 22nd, 2011, 05:47 PM	#5
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	But how much can he do to the stock heads I'm assuming u can't increase the valvue size on the stock heads? How much can u gain from ported stock heads? __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

March 22nd, 2011, 06:58 PM	#7
Lumoon Regular 2001 Mustang V6 Its a V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 460 iTrader: 0 reviews	what kind of numbers are we talking here? I'd really like to see someone with numbers on the windstar and the port job, as well as a comparable price tag.

March 22nd, 2011, 09:40 PM	#9
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	6stang99 had a good example, 238rwhp w/ a nice dyno tune. Im currently doing a 4.2 swap w/ full P&P heads and intakes, windstar upper, udp 25%, custom cam, tune. Ill let you know the numbers asap __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

March 22nd, 2011, 09:47 PM	#10
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well I can tell you wat I'm gunna do Windstar upper Ported heads (done at machine shope) Or if I have the $$ Windstar upper And sage three heads from ssm ....the valvue size u mentioned is the stage 3 there about 450 ea. Lol __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

March 22nd, 2011, 10:41 PM	#11
Nukka Regular 2001 mustang Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: cali Posts: 449 iTrader: 0 reviews	instead of buying the tuner off american muscle, u should wait till one pops up on ebay or craigslist to save money for your other mods, picked up my tuner for 150 __________________ stroked. bored. cammed. ported. polished. 4.3 v6 my 2001 mustang build thread My 4.3 H/C/I v6 engine build

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