One tire fire

punkafi888 · May 8th, 2007, 11:57 PM

from a dead stop i can get both going by shifting my weight. ok think of it like this. when your car is siting there and you get one going the other one is also seeing some load and if you get it to break free it WILL spin. your differentials work by allowing one tire to fpin faster than the other into a corner.

Juggalo_X · May 9th, 2007, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by punkafi888

from a dead stop i can get both going by shifting my weight. ok think of it like this. when your car is siting there and you get one going the other one is also seeing some load and if you get it to break free it WILL spin. your differentials work by allowing one tire to fpin faster than the other into a corner.

yep when i saw the wheel the cars weight shifts thats how i get both going.

Cricket · May 9th, 2007, 10:40 AM

Yea, some of them do the right tire, and some do the left. It just depends which side of the car has less weight, or well thats supposed to the be the determining factor.

Juggalo_X · May 9th, 2007, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Cricket

Yea, some of them do the right tire, and some do the left. It just depends which side of the car has less weight, or well thats supposed to the be the determining factor.

100% correct what ever tire has the least resistance will spin.

tomzac · May 9th, 2007, 01:33 PM

FWIW:
If both tires have equal traction/resistance at a stand still, then the right side tire will tend to break traction and one-wheel-peel. The reason is, as you accellerate, the resistance the axle assembly excerts as the driveshaft turns causes the axle assembly to torque, pushing the left tire harder into the road and in affect, reducing the traction of the right tire. There's your condition where the right tire does its one-wheel-peel. And since a differential is a geared torque multiplier, and you're doing a one-wheel-peel with the other tire not moving, the tire that is moving is doing so at twice the speed of your speedometer reading.

Juggalo_X · May 9th, 2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by tomzac

FWIW:
If both tires have equal traction/resistance at a stand still, then the right side tire will tend to break traction and one-wheel-peel. The reason is, as you accellerate, the resistance the axle assembly excerts as the driveshaft turns causes the axle assembly to torque, pushing the left tire harder into the road and in affect, reducing the traction of the right tire. There's your condition where the right tire does its one-wheel-peel. And since a differential is a geared torque multiplier, and you're doing a one-wheel-peel with the other tire not moving, the tire that is moving is doing so at twice the speed of your speedometer reading.

yep so your burning at 80 mph your one wheel peel is going 160 mph and bye bye spider gear

ByPopularDemand · May 9th, 2007, 04:38 PM

Hmm...that still doesnt explain the laft breaking loose in a straight line

Juggalo_X · May 9th, 2007, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by ByPopularDemand

Hmm...that still doesnt explain the laft breaking loose in a straight line

my left is going bald cuz when i hit it its spinning.

punkafi888 · May 9th, 2007, 04:57 PM

mostly its where you sit in the car how much gas you have, where your battery is situated. if you got a few freinds to push down on one side and lift on the othere. the other would spin.(i do not recomend doing this.)

ByPopularDemand · May 9th, 2007, 05:53 PM

Well thats a wierd way to desighn a car...So why is it my left gets less traction even if the right tire is on dirt(yes I tried yesterday)

punkafi888 · May 9th, 2007, 05:55 PM

they will both spin. its the way all differentials work, well not the new ones any way.

tjames · May 9th, 2007, 08:40 PM

My 04 spins the right so idk why your 04 spins the left

ByPopularDemand · May 9th, 2007, 08:44 PM

Damn...I guess we all need t-lok's

May 8th, 2007, 11:57 PM	#21
punkafi888 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 294 iTrader: 0 reviews	from a dead stop i can get both going by shifting my weight. ok think of it like this. when your car is siting there and you get one going the other one is also seeing some load and if you get it to break free it WILL spin. your differentials work by allowing one tire to fpin faster than the other into a corner. __________________

May 9th, 2007, 01:33 PM	#25
tomzac Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 424 iTrader: 0 reviews	FWIW: If both tires have equal traction/resistance at a stand still, then the right side tire will tend to break traction and one-wheel-peel. The reason is, as you accellerate, the resistance the axle assembly excerts as the driveshaft turns causes the axle assembly to torque, pushing the left tire harder into the road and in affect, reducing the traction of the right tire. There's your condition where the right tire does its one-wheel-peel. And since a differential is a geared torque multiplier, and you're doing a one-wheel-peel with the other tire not moving, the tire that is moving is doing so at twice the speed of your speedometer reading. __________________ 2002 Summer Beater

May 9th, 2007, 04:38 PM	#27
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,666 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hmm...that still doesnt explain the laft breaking loose in a straight line __________________ 2000 V6 vert Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive pulley(r.i.p), SCT tune, 8.8 rear and 4.10 gears.

May 9th, 2007, 04:57 PM	#29
punkafi888 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 294 iTrader: 0 reviews	mostly its where you sit in the car how much gas you have, where your battery is situated. if you got a few freinds to push down on one side and lift on the othere. the other would spin.(i do not recomend doing this.) __________________

May 9th, 2007, 05:53 PM	#30
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,666 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well thats a wierd way to desighn a car...So why is it my left gets less traction even if the right tire is on dirt(yes I tried yesterday) __________________ 2000 V6 vert Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive pulley(r.i.p), SCT tune, 8.8 rear and 4.10 gears.

May 9th, 2007, 05:55 PM	#31
punkafi888 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 294 iTrader: 0 reviews	they will both spin. its the way all differentials work, well not the new ones any way. __________________

May 9th, 2007, 08:44 PM	#33
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,666 iTrader: 0 reviews	Damn...I guess we all need t-lok's __________________ 2000 V6 vert Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive pulley(r.i.p), SCT tune, 8.8 rear and 4.10 gears.

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