[2000stallion]

4.10s and be done with it man

[nightsurge]

Originally Posted by 2000stallion 4.10s and be done with it man

Thanks! Just wanted to make sure I was getting the right setup for my driving situation before I go and buy stuff.

[WickedSnake00]

As someone who does gear selections in the auto industry-

Unless you're willing to datalog your driving habits, it's more of a best guess.

4.10:1's will be mainly advantageous at lower cruise speeds and transient operating conditions, as well as at the track. 3.73's will be more helpful at high cruise speeds, as well as much better if you go s/c in the future.

Just remember there's a ton of variables in play here, such as wheel size, rear axle ratio, transmission gearing, shift profiles, route profiles, etc...

[236Mustang]

just go with 4.56's lol jk

4.10's are good

[1Clean6]

4.10s in an automatic will be perfect.

4.10's in an automatic are comparable to 3.73's in a 5 speed to within 150rpms at highway speeds.

[GUNBUNNY103]

Its my understanding that the 4.10 will give you the more powerful launch over the 3.73. I am having this personal crisis myself but will probably do the 3:73 just because I don't need the extra launch speed. Not saying it wouldn't be awesome, I just don't run her that hard that much. So it boils down to just personal preference if you have no true plans to race her. I don't think any of us on here really care about gas mileage if we did we would be driving a ricer HA!
Also contemplating pulling the rocker panel stripe off of mine as well. Everyone says it will make it look a little more aggressive and brings the wheels to focus and not the stripe.
1 more thing . . . where do you guys create those awesome looking pictures (collages) for your signature blocks on here!? Thanks

[carney]

Originally Posted by GUNBUNNY103 Its my understanding that the 4.10 will give you the more powerful launch over the 3.73. I am having this personal crisis myself but will probably do the 3:73 just because I don't need the extra launch speed. Not saying it wouldn't be awesome, I just don't run her that hard that much. So it boils down to just personal preference if you have no true plans to race her. I don't think any of us on here really care about gas mileage if we did we would be driving a ricer HA! Also contemplating pulling the rocker panel stripe off of mine as well. Everyone says it will make it look a little more aggressive and brings the wheels to focus and not the stripe. 1 more thing . . . where do you guys create those awesome looking pictures (collages) for your signature blocks on here!? Thanks

Pull off the stripes, makes the car look soo much cleaner.

And i had mine made by a member on here. Just go to the chop shop subforum down in the picture section of the forum, create a thread with some pics of your car and I'm sure someone will make you a sig.

[walt1120]

Originally Posted by nightsurge Ok now I am somewhat confused which gear to get... some are saying 4.10's and some say 3.73's for the same city/stop-and-go driving scenario. Which one is it guys?

your a manual right?

4.10 is faster but if your manual i think youd better go 3.73 because you rip through the gears too quickly with 4.10s and a manual.

if your an automatic i think 4.10s are must have mod.

[1Clean6]

Read the title of the thread, lol.

I have 4.10s in my cammed V6, goes well with the cam.

[nightsurge]

Ok guys, I am about to start ordering parts and just wanted to get some last few questions in.

First and foremost, I am going to get the SCT X3 Flash Tuner to see the difference it makes on my stock + CAI alone.

Then I am going to get dual exhaust, and for the price/sound I have been looking at this MAC kit:

MAC Dual Exhaust

Will this kit add much horsepower, if any at all, since it just runs off of the stock y-pipe? I will be happy even with just a 5-10 HP gain from this kit.

Or should I go with an X or H-pipe with this flowmaster kit:
Flowmaster American Thunder Catback Exhaust

I'll then re-tune and get another time trial in to see the difference that small mod has made. The final upgrades will be the Gears + TLOK combo which I am going with 4.10s and Ford Racing TLOK. I'll install those, re-tune, and run another trial to see the end result of my mods.

All-together with mods + tuning, do I have a shot of getting even remotely close to 225-250 RWHP? Stock is around 170 RWHP, CAI has me probably around 180 RWHP with no tune.

Thanks again for all your advice so far guys!

[Stang6899]

Cai will add 2-3. exhaust might add 5. I don't know what a tune will add but not 45ish. Gears + tlok dont add horsepower

[nightsurge]

Originally Posted by Stang6899 Cai will add 2-3. exhaust might add 5. I don't know what a tune will add but not 45ish. Gears + tlok dont add horsepower

Where do you get these figures? They seem rather low compared to everywhere else I have looked. Most places show CAI adding at least 5-10 HP, then with a tune as much as 30 HP. Exhaust (y-pipe) at 8-13 HP, more with a tune. X or H-pipe between 15-25 HP, more with a tune.

Gears and TLOK though I do realize won't technically add horsepower. Those are more to improve acceleration and actual quickness/traction to put the most of my actual power to the pavement.

I realize those are probably crank HP ratings, but then I never can tell with AM's guides because their videos show RWHP ratings. I'm at around 200-210HP at the crank so I figured I could possibly add another 40-50ish with exhaust + tune. Maybe 215-225 RWHP is a more reasonable expectation?

[6ER THEN I 8ER!]

Originally Posted by nightsurge Where do you get these figures? They seem rather low compared to everywhere else I have looked. Most places show CAI adding at least 5-10 HP, then with a tune as much as 30 HP. Exhaust (y-pipe) at 8-13 HP, more with a tune. X or H-pipe between 15-25 HP, more with a tune. Gears and TLOK though I do realize won't technically add horsepower. Those are more to improve acceleration and actual quickness/traction to put the most of my actual power to the pavement. I realize those are probably crank HP ratings, but then I never can tell with AM's guides because their videos show RWHP ratings. I'm at around 200-210HP at the crank so I figured I could possibly add another 40-50ish with exhaust + tune. Maybe 215-225 RWHP is a more reasonable expectation?

he's right..CAI you're in the 2-3 hp range in the real world...the exhaust adds a couple more then a CAI but nothing to brag about, so it's mainly a sound mod...a tune you'll be looing at maybe 10-15hp depending on what the tunr consists of..the tune basically is there to help the other bolt ons work their best...downside is on a 3.8 thats not much

midpipes don't add much of anything on an even firing v6..so maybe 1-2

you're right gears/tlok won't add power...just makes the butt dyno feel faster

you should be right now between 160-170rwhp (if your stang is well maintained)...after all the mods we've talked about you'll be in the 180rwhp range...the only way you'll break 200 is with a 4.2 build or a power adder..welcome to building a 3.8

[nightsurge]

Thanks for that! Damn marketing numbers make these mods sound so much more appealing and performance adding than they actually are lol.

[6ER THEN I 8ER!]

Originally Posted by nightsurge Thanks for that! Damn marketing numbers make these mods sound so much more appealing and performance adding than they actually are lol.

yeah...take the CAI for instance...it's basically a mod just for looks since it really doesn't do much for the car..i wouldn't buy one, but if one was given for free i'd run it..

if i was going to add an intake i'd do a windstar swap..under $400 and you'll not only get an intake that looks sex under our hoods, but gives you a nice real world gain.

we're really underpowered cars lol

[Stang6899]

He could break 200 with a 3.8. He'd just need to put more work into the engine. Like porting the heads and intakes and adding a cam.

[6ER THEN I 8ER!]

Originally Posted by Stang6899 He could break 200 with a 3.8. He'd just need to put more work into the engine. Like porting the heads and intakes and adding a cam.

that would break 200 (notice i also mentioned a 4.2 build in an earlier post to do so)...but still be under that of a stock 99-04 GT lol...forced induction is the best option for power on these cars

[Stang6899]

Originally Posted by 6ER THEN I 8ER forced induction is the best option for power on these cars

Agreed haha. I don't even drive a mustang right now but in the near future I'm going to build a 3.8 split port motor for a new edge mustang I don't even have yet lol. It'll be equipped with some type of FI. Not sure if I wanna go turbo or sc yet..

[Green_6er]

Originally Posted by Stang6899 Agreed haha. I don't even drive a mustang right now but in the near future I'm going to build a 3.8 split port motor for a new edge mustang I don't even have yet lol. It'll be equipped with some type of FI. Not sure if I wanna go turbo or sc yet..

turbo