Thisis my last attempt

2000Mustang · May 9th, 2007, 11:13 PM

This will be my last attempt at my exhaust. I now have true duals with IMCO mufflers. I have MAC long-tubes being shipped to my house right now (UPS told me that today). I saw an exhaust shop on the way to my car, so I stopped in and asked about the new 44's. They didn't have any info, but they said they recommended Cherry Bombs. I listened to a set of them on a truck and I wasn't impressed. He tried to talk me into dual Cherry Bomb class-packs, but that isn't what I want. He showed me some X-pipes that they make that I really liked. The problem with the X-pipe is that they are only made (by them) in 2.5 inch diameter. I've been thinking that I want this: 2 stock converters, MAC long-tube headers, X-pipe, my same IMCO mufflers, and my same tips. I really don't care if it is that loud, I want the most performance (X-pipe), and I DO NOT want it ricey in upper RPM's. Does this sound like a good set-up? Another thing, they make the things that you can open up and run open headers. You know what i'm talking about? Its like a Y-pipe on each side, that you can uncap while racing. Would this benefit when I go racing, or would it hurt me because of no back pressure? One more question, 2.1/4 or 2.5 inch tubing? I think 2.5, but what do you think?

JASonic · May 9th, 2007, 11:16 PM

Good questions!! Cant wait to hear the answer about the open header thing!! No back pressure is bad?????

itschristorres8 · May 9th, 2007, 11:18 PM

your car doesnt have the power to go open header or cut off the y pipe. you'll lose power. ESPECIALLY if you go open header

ByPopularDemand · May 9th, 2007, 11:19 PM

Open headers sounds like ass on our cars and we need some back pressure, but LT's X pipe and catback is a good setup

2000Mustang · May 9th, 2007, 11:20 PM

Im not worried about sound, id just uncap them for the strip. Would it help or hurt my times?

ByPopularDemand · May 9th, 2007, 11:24 PM

Open headers with no back pressure will make you lose power, trust me I had em open for a week

2000Mustang · May 9th, 2007, 11:28 PM

Ok, forget that idea. I want the most hp and I DO NOT want it to sound ricey up top. I do not care if it is that loud. 2.1/2 or 2.5 inch piping? (I know about the power-band being moved up with 2.5)

ByPopularDemand · May 9th, 2007, 11:46 PM

2.5 isnt bad...your gonna feel the power but I hate wiating for it, and I think you mean 2.1/4 or 2.25 in piping is always safe unless you start making big power...I planned ahead

SSStang · May 10th, 2007, 12:11 AM

You want non ricey?
- Stay away from the X

Then again I've never heard your mufflers so I can't tell ya but I'm going off the sound of my 40s -

GreenFaleen · May 10th, 2007, 10:36 AM

don't do dumps, get h over x if no rice, get 2 and a quarter unless you plan on bigger power

ByPopularDemand · May 10th, 2007, 01:31 PM

X is ricier than H I thought H was louder and higher pitched

GreenFaleen · May 10th, 2007, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by ByPopularDemand

X is ricier than H I thought H was louder and higher pitched

x is louder and raspier, h is quieter and deeper

punkafi888 · May 10th, 2007, 01:51 PM

you loose some serious low end tq numbers and a little hp up top.

SSStang · May 10th, 2007, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by punkafi888

you loose some serious low end tq numbers and a little hp up top.

What are you talking about?

97stanger · May 10th, 2007, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by SSStang

You want non ricey?
- Stay away from the X

Then again I've never heard your mufflers so I can't tell ya but I'm going off the sound of my 40s -

the 44's are the new Flowmaster super 44's. very nice muffler

97stanger · May 10th, 2007, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by SSStang

Originally Posted by punkafi888

you loose some serious low end tq numbers and a little hp up top.

What are you talking about?

he is talking if the 2.5" pipe were to go on, he would loose low end torque (basically pushing your powerband higher in the RPM'S) and by doing that, you forfeit horsepower in the higher RPMS.

ByPopularDemand · May 10th, 2007, 04:27 PM

How would moving the power band up sacrafice hp

May 9th, 2007, 11:13 PM	#1
2000Mustang Enthusiast 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 503	Thisis my last attempt This will be my last attempt at my exhaust. I now have true duals with IMCO mufflers. I have MAC long-tubes being shipped to my house right now (UPS told me that today). I saw an exhaust shop on the way to my car, so I stopped in and asked about the new 44's. They didn't have any info, but they said they recommended Cherry Bombs. I listened to a set of them on a truck and I wasn't impressed. He tried to talk me into dual Cherry Bomb class-packs, but that isn't what I want. He showed me some X-pipes that they make that I really liked. The problem with the X-pipe is that they are only made (by them) in 2.5 inch diameter. I've been thinking that I want this: 2 stock converters, MAC long-tube headers, X-pipe, my same IMCO mufflers, and my same tips. I really don't care if it is that loud, I want the most performance (X-pipe), and I DO NOT want it ricey in upper RPM's. Does this sound like a good set-up? Another thing, they make the things that you can open up and run open headers. You know what i'm talking about? Its like a Y-pipe on each side, that you can uncap while racing. Would this benefit when I go racing, or would it hurt me because of no back pressure? One more question, 2.1/4 or 2.5 inch tubing? I think 2.5, but what do you think? __________________ K&N cai, Flowmaster 40 mufflers, JET chip, Scremin' Demon coil, MSD 8.5mm wires, NGK plugs, MAC LT headers, Pypes high-flow converters, 18' chrome Saleen wheels

May 9th, 2007, 11:16 PM	#2
JASonic Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,405	Good questions!! Cant wait to hear the answer about the open header thing!! No back pressure is bad????? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeQLUyYg3EA ^^^^Ok... for a 232^^^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1EbIOdAZE PhotoClub Co-Founder K&N FIPK Dual Flowmasters Xcal III

May 9th, 2007, 11:18 PM	#3
itschristorres8 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,171	your car doesnt have the power to go open header or cut off the y pipe. you'll lose power. ESPECIALLY if you go open header __________________ When the Turbo spins The bullshit ends

May 9th, 2007, 11:19 PM	#4
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,370	Open headers sounds like ass on our cars and we need some back pressure, but LT's X pipe and catback is a good setup __________________ 2000 V6 Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive crank pulley, SCT tune, and a buncha cosmetic mods

May 9th, 2007, 11:20 PM	#5
2000Mustang Enthusiast 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 503	Im not worried about sound, id just uncap them for the strip. Would it help or hurt my times? __________________ K&N cai, Flowmaster 40 mufflers, JET chip, Scremin' Demon coil, MSD 8.5mm wires, NGK plugs, MAC LT headers, Pypes high-flow converters, 18' chrome Saleen wheels

May 9th, 2007, 11:24 PM	#6
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,370	Open headers with no back pressure will make you lose power, trust me I had em open for a week __________________ 2000 V6 Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive crank pulley, SCT tune, and a buncha cosmetic mods

May 9th, 2007, 11:28 PM	#7
2000Mustang Enthusiast 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 503	Ok, forget that idea. I want the most hp and I DO NOT want it to sound ricey up top. I do not care if it is that loud. 2.1/2 or 2.5 inch piping? (I know about the power-band being moved up with 2.5) __________________ K&N cai, Flowmaster 40 mufflers, JET chip, Scremin' Demon coil, MSD 8.5mm wires, NGK plugs, MAC LT headers, Pypes high-flow converters, 18' chrome Saleen wheels

May 9th, 2007, 11:46 PM	#8
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,370	2.5 isnt bad...your gonna feel the power but I hate wiating for it, and I think you mean 2.1/4 or 2.25 in piping is always safe unless you start making big power...I planned ahead __________________ 2000 V6 Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive crank pulley, SCT tune, and a buncha cosmetic mods

May 10th, 2007, 12:11 AM	#9
SSStang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2k2 Mustang V6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 6,012	You want non ricey? - Stay away from the X Then again I've never heard your mufflers so I can't tell ya but I'm going off the sound of my 40s - __________________ Selling for friend: Vortech Supercharge kit < 100miles.

May 10th, 2007, 10:36 AM	#10
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,960	don't do dumps, get h over x if no rice, get 2 and a quarter unless you plan on bigger power __________________ Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

May 10th, 2007, 01:31 PM	#11
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,370	X is ricier than H I thought H was louder and higher pitched __________________ 2000 V6 Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive crank pulley, SCT tune, and a buncha cosmetic mods

May 10th, 2007, 01:51 PM	#13
punkafi888 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 294	you loose some serious low end tq numbers and a little hp up top. __________________ http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4979/42wotv6ok4.jpg

May 10th, 2007, 04:27 PM	#17
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,370	How would moving the power band up sacrafice hp __________________ 2000 V6 Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive crank pulley, SCT tune, and a buncha cosmetic mods

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