Windstar Intake

03stanggg · June 14th, 2011, 12:31 PM

Does anyone know if I would need a re-tune for replacing a windstar intake for my CAI?

SlowSix · June 14th, 2011, 04:39 PM

No you don't. I went from stock intake/upper to windstar and don't have any problems. Although a tune would really help bring some extra power out of it.

SON1C · June 14th, 2011, 06:19 PM

is your car an auto?

SlowSix · June 14th, 2011, 06:51 PM

What does auto or manual have to do with installing a windstar? lol

Womkeith · June 14th, 2011, 07:46 PM

Me thinks he's going to mention shift points on auto.

mustangmike! · June 14th, 2011, 08:56 PM

me dont
me things it will invlove idle

SON1C · June 14th, 2011, 09:26 PM

lol@you guys

i was just gonna say if he's got an auto not to wait on the tuner and just get it now, shifting is night and day, and throttle response seems better.

Jetflo · June 14th, 2011, 10:38 PM

Windstar is good on its own. A tune does make it better.

The runners are longer than stock so it's worthwhile to try changing the IMRC switch point. I'd recommend 3200 rpm instead of the stock 3300 rpm. It does not seem like much but if you look at the load and MAF curves from data logging you will see this little tweak gets rid of an irksome "dead spot".

Even a completely stock car will benefit from a dyno tune. The factory provides one tune for all cars that is a compromise between fuel economy, reliability and performance. What is worse is that no two MAF sensors are exactly the same. Add variability between fuel pressure sensors and you start to see the potential for a tune to make a big difference.

As a last point, I think Ford was deliberate in rating the 3.8 Mustangs at less than 200 hp. They wanted to encourage folks to buy a GT and spend a LOT more on that new car purchase. In my opinion, all 3.8 Mustangs were deliberately detuned from the factory to help with CAFE and for marketing purposes.

Thanks!

03stanggg · June 15th, 2011, 10:19 AM

Thanks for the responses. Yes the car's an auto. I currently have a tune for the car. I only have a CAI so i was wondering if the tune for the Windstar would be different then the tune I currently have for the CAI.

Basically i'm wondering if its worth buying the new tune or just waiting for a few more power mods before I get the new tune.

June 14th, 2011, 12:31 PM	#1
03stanggg Enthusiast 2003 v6 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: PA Posts: 529 iTrader: 2 reviews	Windstar Intake Does anyone know if I would need a re-tune for replacing a windstar intake for my CAI? __________________

June 14th, 2011, 04:39 PM	#2
SlowSix Formerly 01silversixer 2001 V6 15.47@89.57 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,471 iTrader: 1 reviews	No you don't. I went from stock intake/upper to windstar and don't have any problems. Although a tune would really help bring some extra power out of it. __________________ Build Thread

June 14th, 2011, 06:19 PM	#3
SON1C Run ur car, not ur mouth. 2003 Sonic Blue 4.6L Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,057 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	is your car an auto? __________________ 238rwhp/263rwtq Drew's Build Thread

June 14th, 2011, 06:51 PM	#4
SlowSix Formerly 01silversixer 2001 V6 15.47@89.57 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,471 iTrader: 1 reviews	What does auto or manual have to do with installing a windstar? lol __________________ Build Thread

June 14th, 2011, 07:46 PM	#5
Womkeith Regular 2002 Mustang All day Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Corpus Christi Posts: 158 iTrader: 0 reviews	Me thinks he's going to mention shift points on auto. __________________ Mavs 4 Blazers 2 Mavs 4 Lakers 0 SWEEP!!! Mavs 4 Thunder 1 <---Going to FINALS!!! Mavs 4 Heat 2 <------2011 NBA CHAMPS!!!

June 14th, 2011, 08:56 PM	#6
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June 14th, 2011, 09:26 PM	#7
SON1C Run ur car, not ur mouth. 2003 Sonic Blue 4.6L Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,057 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	lol@you guys i was just gonna say if he's got an auto not to wait on the tuner and just get it now, shifting is night and day, and throttle response seems better. __________________ 238rwhp/263rwtq Drew's Build Thread

June 14th, 2011, 10:38 PM	#8
Jetflo Regular 2001 3.8L w/ 5spd Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: California Posts: 198 iTrader: 0 reviews	Windstar is good on its own. A tune does make it better. The runners are longer than stock so it's worthwhile to try changing the IMRC switch point. I'd recommend 3200 rpm instead of the stock 3300 rpm. It does not seem like much but if you look at the load and MAF curves from data logging you will see this little tweak gets rid of an irksome "dead spot". Even a completely stock car will benefit from a dyno tune. The factory provides one tune for all cars that is a compromise between fuel economy, reliability and performance. What is worse is that no two MAF sensors are exactly the same. Add variability between fuel pressure sensors and you start to see the potential for a tune to make a big difference. As a last point, I think Ford was deliberate in rating the 3.8 Mustangs at less than 200 hp. They wanted to encourage folks to buy a GT and spend a LOT more on that new car purchase. In my opinion, all 3.8 Mustangs were deliberately detuned from the factory to help with CAFE and for marketing purposes. Thanks! __________________ Are you absolutely certain you're not pregnant?

June 15th, 2011, 10:19 AM	#9
03stanggg Enthusiast 2003 v6 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: PA Posts: 529 iTrader: 2 reviews	Thanks for the responses. Yes the car's an auto. I currently have a tune for the car. I only have a CAI so i was wondering if the tune for the Windstar would be different then the tune I currently have for the CAI. Basically i'm wondering if its worth buying the new tune or just waiting for a few more power mods before I get the new tune. __________________

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