V6 to V6.... swap

Walters97Racing · June 17th, 2011, 05:25 AM

okay so this prolly isnt seen to much, but I was thinking. I want more power, but not loosing much fuel milage.. so why not stay a v6? i was thinking about swapping to a 05+ mustang v6 motor. any thoughts on this? this is what I want to know.

- has anyone done this?
- what issues will i have?
- whats the power/ torque gain?
- whats the fuel milage difference?

thanks yall

mustangmike! · June 17th, 2011, 05:58 AM

well, go see what a 4.0 puts out and add a lil for less weight ?
big ol mod motor in our lil car
pretty worthless power gain

You sir need to do a tune up and turbo your car. that will increase you mpg if you can keep your foor of the turbo

Walters97Racing · June 17th, 2011, 06:04 AM

I was looking, the 2011 3.7 has like. 305hp lol. Idk what the 4.0 has. Ive got a set of racing wires for my car. havent put them together yet though. and btw.. im talking about it going in my 96 3.8l lol

mustangmike! · June 17th, 2011, 06:08 AM

205hp i think in the 4.0 ...
pretty useless swap.
im sure that 3.7 is expensive ish
do the 2.5 eco boost :p

but a turbo will give you power and better mpg. Talk to Kyle (esg) on that one. Him and another guy here JT are selling kits now.

Walters97Racing · June 17th, 2011, 06:10 AM

oh really? damn. last time i heard no one was selling kits lol. my little 6er is putting out a solid.. 150 hp lmao

ESG-642T · June 17th, 2011, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Walters97Racing

oh really? damn. last time i heard no one was selling kits lol. my little 6er is putting out a solid.. 150 hp lmao

I doubt your that lucky @ 150 rwhp.

the 3.7 would be interesting to see though!

SlowSix · June 17th, 2011, 11:22 AM

The 4.0 is rated at 210/240 compared to the 3.8's 190/225.
So not worth the effort really.
The new edge is a couple hundred pounds lighter also, so the weight to power ratio probably doesn't help much either.

Walters97Racing · June 17th, 2011, 11:42 AM

Lol.I wasn't saying rear wheel :/ its pretty pitiful. I haven't had any luck with finding a 3.7/ yet though .

SlowSix · June 17th, 2011, 11:47 AM

Yeah those numbers are crank numbers. So rear wheel you're looking at like 160/190 for a new edge and probably 170-180/210 for a 4.0.

Walters97Racing · June 17th, 2011, 11:55 AM

Wait, i thought the 3.7 was making more power then the 4.0. Lol

SlowSix · June 17th, 2011, 12:01 PM

It is. if you scroll up i said 3.8, aka the new edge split port.
The 2011 3.7 is rated at 305/280, so it's probably making about 270/250 or so.

Granted the rwhp numbers I'm coming up with are all guestimates but still.

Walters97Racing · June 17th, 2011, 12:05 PM

Oh lol. Mines not even the new edge. It's a 96. Lol. the signature is my fathers car

Walters97Racing · June 17th, 2011, 12:07 PM

my lift of goals
- 3.7/ swap. along with drivetrain
- Ecoboost
- done :^)

SlowSix · June 17th, 2011, 12:09 PM

Yeah the single port 3.8 like you have is slow as balls.
I think they're rated at like 150

mcqueen · June 17th, 2011, 12:09 PM

I think a 4.0 swap would be too much work for such a little gain, at least to me. You could swap in a split port 3.8 or just do a split port swap much easier. Although I do like the 3.7 idea. Gains like that would be worth the work.

Walters97Racing · June 17th, 2011, 12:15 PM

I've got the shop, tools , lift, and Cherry picker

And people experienced with doing engine swaps.
I just have to find the motor and powertrain noww

1st_Time_Stanger · June 17th, 2011, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by 01SilverSixer

It is. if you scroll up i said 3.8, aka the new edge split port.
The 2011 3.7 is rated at 305/280, so it's probably making about 270/250 or so.

Granted the rwhp numbers I'm coming up with are all guestimates but still.

The rear wheel starter numbers are ~253/245. Now a few simple bolt ons like mine and you have 290hp/270tq at the tires. Nice gains but for $2000.00 its a bit expensive for ~40hp/tq.

mcqueen · June 17th, 2011, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by 1st_Time_Stanger

The rear wheel starter numbers are ~253/245. Now a few simple bolt ons like mine and you have 290hp/270tq at the tires. Nice gains but for $2000.00 its a bit expensive for ~40hp/tq.

$50 per hp/tq isn't too bad. I think that's similar to the cost of boosting a 94-04 V6.

Walters97Racing · June 17th, 2011, 01:19 PM

I just think it would be fun to get people confused when they ask what motor I have instead of 3.8 Itl be 3.7. They'd be like o.0 wtf Lmao

6ixer · June 17th, 2011, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by 01SilverSixer

Yeah the single port 3.8 like you have is slow as balls.
I think they're rated at like 150

Single port sixers 145hp215 tq
Split port sixers 190hp/235tq

I swear tht was the dummest thing to do let's put a 140hp v6 in a mustang tht prolly is only at 120 rwhp.....slow as balls

June 17th, 2011, 05:25 AM	#1
Walters97Racing Enthusiast 1996 Mustang 3.8l Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	V6 to V6.... swap okay so this prolly isnt seen to much, but I was thinking. I want more power, but not loosing much fuel milage.. so why not stay a v6? i was thinking about swapping to a 05+ mustang v6 motor. any thoughts on this? this is what I want to know. - has anyone done this? - what issues will i have? - whats the power/ torque gain? - whats the fuel milage difference? thanks yall __________________ 96 v6 - needs v8 03 Roush - needs turbo 06 F250 6.0 - needs stepladder

June 17th, 2011, 05:58 AM	#2
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	well, go see what a 4.0 puts out and add a lil for less weight ? big ol mod motor in our lil car pretty worthless power gain You sir need to do a tune up and turbo your car. that will increase you mpg if you can keep your foor of the turbo __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

June 17th, 2011, 06:04 AM	#3
Walters97Racing Enthusiast 1996 Mustang 3.8l Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was looking, the 2011 3.7 has like. 305hp lol. Idk what the 4.0 has. Ive got a set of racing wires for my car. havent put them together yet though. and btw.. im talking about it going in my 96 3.8l lol __________________ 96 v6 - needs v8 03 Roush - needs turbo 06 F250 6.0 - needs stepladder

June 17th, 2011, 06:08 AM	#4
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	205hp i think in the 4.0 ... pretty useless swap. im sure that 3.7 is expensive ish do the 2.5 eco boost :p but a turbo will give you power and better mpg. Talk to Kyle (esg) on that one. Him and another guy here JT are selling kits now. __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

June 17th, 2011, 06:10 AM	#5
Walters97Racing Enthusiast 1996 Mustang 3.8l Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh really? damn. last time i heard no one was selling kits lol. my little 6er is putting out a solid.. 150 hp lmao __________________ 96 v6 - needs v8 03 Roush - needs turbo 06 F250 6.0 - needs stepladder

June 17th, 2011, 11:22 AM	#7
SlowSix Formerly 01silversixer 2001 V6 15.47@89.57 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,471 iTrader: 1 reviews	The 4.0 is rated at 210/240 compared to the 3.8's 190/225. So not worth the effort really. The new edge is a couple hundred pounds lighter also, so the weight to power ratio probably doesn't help much either. __________________ Build Thread

June 17th, 2011, 11:42 AM	#8
Walters97Racing Enthusiast 1996 Mustang 3.8l Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lol.I wasn't saying rear wheel :/ its pretty pitiful. I haven't had any luck with finding a 3.7/ yet though . __________________ 96 v6 - needs v8 03 Roush - needs turbo 06 F250 6.0 - needs stepladder

June 17th, 2011, 11:47 AM	#9
SlowSix Formerly 01silversixer 2001 V6 15.47@89.57 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,471 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yeah those numbers are crank numbers. So rear wheel you're looking at like 160/190 for a new edge and probably 170-180/210 for a 4.0. __________________ Build Thread

June 17th, 2011, 11:55 AM	#10
Walters97Racing Enthusiast 1996 Mustang 3.8l Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	Wait, i thought the 3.7 was making more power then the 4.0. Lol __________________ 96 v6 - needs v8 03 Roush - needs turbo 06 F250 6.0 - needs stepladder

June 17th, 2011, 12:01 PM	#11
SlowSix Formerly 01silversixer 2001 V6 15.47@89.57 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,471 iTrader: 1 reviews	It is. if you scroll up i said 3.8, aka the new edge split port. The 2011 3.7 is rated at 305/280, so it's probably making about 270/250 or so. Granted the rwhp numbers I'm coming up with are all guestimates but still. __________________ Build Thread

June 17th, 2011, 12:05 PM	#12
Walters97Racing Enthusiast 1996 Mustang 3.8l Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	Oh lol. Mines not even the new edge. It's a 96. Lol. the signature is my fathers car __________________ 96 v6 - needs v8 03 Roush - needs turbo 06 F250 6.0 - needs stepladder

June 17th, 2011, 12:07 PM	#13
Walters97Racing Enthusiast 1996 Mustang 3.8l Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	my lift of goals - 3.7/ swap. along with drivetrain - Ecoboost - done :^) __________________ 96 v6 - needs v8 03 Roush - needs turbo 06 F250 6.0 - needs stepladder

June 17th, 2011, 12:09 PM	#14
SlowSix Formerly 01silversixer 2001 V6 15.47@89.57 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,471 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yeah the single port 3.8 like you have is slow as balls. I think they're rated at like 150 __________________ Build Thread

June 17th, 2011, 12:15 PM	#16
Walters97Racing Enthusiast 1996 Mustang 3.8l Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've got the shop, tools , lift, and Cherry picker And people experienced with doing engine swaps. I just have to find the motor and powertrain noww __________________ 96 v6 - needs v8 03 Roush - needs turbo 06 F250 6.0 - needs stepladder

June 17th, 2011, 01:19 PM	#19
Walters97Racing Enthusiast 1996 Mustang 3.8l Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	I just think it would be fun to get people confused when they ask what motor I have instead of 3.8 Itl be 3.7. They'd be like o.0 wtf Lmao __________________ 96 v6 - needs v8 03 Roush - needs turbo 06 F250 6.0 - needs stepladder

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