engine rebuild and M112?

mk1993 · July 5th, 2011, 09:51 PM

Okay so my engine just rolled over 170k and im wanting more power out of it. I was thinkning since the miles were so high I might as well get the engine rebuilt so it will last longer and basically be new. Well im in indiana and have no clue who could do a rebuild, any idea where to go or a rough estimate of how much it would cost? Im planning on going with mysteed's M112 kit, i love the whine and it puts me around 275-300HP which is where i want to be with my car. I also know you need a tune for the M112, i have an SCT tuner now from AM, could i use that with custom tunes? Sorry about all the questions i just want everything done right and want to know how much i need to save to get this thing going, thanks guys!

2000stallion · July 5th, 2011, 10:15 PM

Its going to cost a good chunk of change to get your engine rebuilt if you cant do the work yourself...As for the mysteed kit, id say go for it if thats what you really want...Im doing a s/c build right now and ill warn you now...Its very very expensive. Anyways, AmericanMuscle is a great company, but they wouldnt even send mustangmike a tune for his cam...Take the tuner to a dyno with you and they'll do the rest..

Six Banger · July 5th, 2011, 10:32 PM

A good rebuild is going to be expensive if you have someone else do it... might as well buy a used engine with low miles on it.

mk1993 · July 5th, 2011, 10:36 PM

would a used engine be cheaper? How many miles do you think is safe for my plans if i buy a used motor? and that sucks to hear about AM but owell, thanks for the help though guys, reps!

2000stallion · July 5th, 2011, 10:38 PM

Well, just to give you an idea, my 3.8 has 130k on it...Hopefully if plans work out, it will be boosted in august

mk1993 · July 5th, 2011, 11:03 PM

oh hell yeah! Im definately going to be checkin your progress

Rich J · July 5th, 2011, 11:17 PM

Miles don't matter on an engine if you plan on building it. All that matters is how the engine is holding up. Check compression and such, if all goes fine then boost it.

mk1993 · July 5th, 2011, 11:21 PM

ok compression check, can i just go to a redular mechanic to get one? Sorry im used to HIDs, exhaust and exterior stuff, just now getting into engine stuff

Rich J · July 5th, 2011, 11:34 PM

You can do it yourself if you can handle a socket. Theres a bunch of youtube vids on how to do it. Just need to be able to take out your spark plugs

WickedSnake00 · July 6th, 2011, 11:27 AM

You might be surprised at the shape your 3.8 is in, those things can run forever it seems.

Rebuilds aren't too hard on OHV's either, especially if you have a complete engine to begin with (no scratching your head on what parts you may or may not need.)

And M112's are pretty fun. (At least on 4.6 DOHC's

)

Where in Indiana are you? I might be able to give you a hand if I get some free time, and I'm not wrenching on mine.

mk1993 · July 6th, 2011, 12:34 PM

i live in crawfordsville, its about an hour west of indy and 30 min south of lafeyette, thanks for the offer man

Lumoon · July 6th, 2011, 03:54 PM

Is this going to be a daily driver? I looked into the M112 setup for a DD and I was quickly ushered away from it due to heatsoak, thats when the block heats up and the S/C begins to heat up as well and thus increases the intake air temp, since the M112 isn't an intercooled S/C.

If you plan on being a DD you may want to look into a centrifugal S/C.

2000stallion · July 6th, 2011, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Lumoon

Is this going to be a daily driver? I looked into the M112 setup for a DD and I was quickly ushered away from it due to heatsoak, thats when the block heats up and the S/C begins to heat up as well and thus increases the intake air temp, since the M112 isn't an intercooled S/C.

If you plan on being a DD you may want to look into a centrifugal S/C.

+1 or if your dead set on the m112, look into this:Meth Kit

mk1993 · July 7th, 2011, 12:25 AM

ive heard about heatsoak but im so deadset on this kit, i do plan on water/meth infjection

ESG-642T · July 7th, 2011, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by mustangkid1993

ive heard about heatsoak but im so deadset on this kit, i do plan on water/meth infjection

dead set because you road course / auto x?
or
because you want to be slower

B's04gt · July 7th, 2011, 01:49 AM

Just to give some numbers, a little while back my mom had a burnt cylinder ring in her 4runner. (She beats the shit out of it) and it was like 3grand for a rebuild..

ESG-642T · July 7th, 2011, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by B's04gt

Just to give some numbers, a little while back my mom had a burnt cylinder ring in her 4runner. (She beats the shit out of it) and it was like 3grand for a rebuild..

Damn toyotas! The machine shop here in town charges 750$ to refresh a 3.8 and another 300$ for heads. That is if nothing like the crank has to be replaced.

B's04gt · July 7th, 2011, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by ESG-642T

Damn toyotas! The machine shop here in town charges 750$ to refresh a 3.8 and another 300$ for heads. That is if nothing like the crank has to be replaced.

Toyota's are expensive.

walt1120 · July 7th, 2011, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by mustangkid1993

ive heard about heatsoak but im so deadset on this kit, i do plan on water/meth infjection

As long as you do run meth you should be ok with cranking up the boost a little too. like 10-12psi.

mk1993 · July 7th, 2011, 11:26 PM

okay quick question! AM just got the procgarger kit in stock, should i go that route? Its intercooled so thats why i was curious, whats the procharger #'s compared to the M112? and for about the same price i think it might be worth it

July 5th, 2011, 09:51 PM	#1
mk1993 Enthusiast 01 true blue GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cville,Indiana Posts: 862 iTrader: 0 reviews	engine rebuild and M112? Okay so my engine just rolled over 170k and im wanting more power out of it. I was thinkning since the miles were so high I might as well get the engine rebuilt so it will last longer and basically be new. Well im in indiana and have no clue who could do a rebuild, any idea where to go or a rough estimate of how much it would cost? Im planning on going with mysteed's M112 kit, i love the whine and it puts me around 275-300HP which is where i want to be with my car. I also know you need a tune for the M112, i have an SCT tuner now from AM, could i use that with custom tunes? Sorry about all the questions i just want everything done right and want to know how much i need to save to get this thing going, thanks guys! __________________ 00' V6-basics, mostly visual, missed! SOLD 01' GT True blue, bbk CAI, slp lm1 catback, tinted tails, HIDs, tokio blues, chin spoiler, clear fogs, 18x9/10 chrome saleens wrapped in nitto 555's, MMD fuel door, more to come

July 5th, 2011, 10:15 PM	#2
2000stallion Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 Mustang slow@slow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,000 iTrader: 1 reviews	Its going to cost a good chunk of change to get your engine rebuilt if you cant do the work yourself...As for the mysteed kit, id say go for it if thats what you really want...Im doing a s/c build right now and ill warn you now...Its very very expensive. Anyways, AmericanMuscle is a great company, but they wouldnt even send mustangmike a tune for his cam...Take the tuner to a dyno with you and they'll do the rest.. __________________ For Sale: 99-04 smoked tail light covers 2000stallions Build Thread

July 5th, 2011, 10:32 PM	#3
Six Banger Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 - 3.8 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,978 iTrader: 1 reviews	A good rebuild is going to be expensive if you have someone else do it... might as well buy a used engine with low miles on it. __________________ Look on the bright side: If you're reading this, you're alive. And that's fucking awesome.

July 5th, 2011, 10:36 PM	#4
mk1993 Enthusiast 01 true blue GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cville,Indiana Posts: 862 iTrader: 0 reviews	would a used engine be cheaper? How many miles do you think is safe for my plans if i buy a used motor? and that sucks to hear about AM but owell, thanks for the help though guys, reps! __________________ 00' V6-basics, mostly visual, missed! SOLD 01' GT True blue, bbk CAI, slp lm1 catback, tinted tails, HIDs, tokio blues, chin spoiler, clear fogs, 18x9/10 chrome saleens wrapped in nitto 555's, MMD fuel door, more to come

July 5th, 2011, 10:38 PM	#5
2000stallion Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 Mustang slow@slow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,000 iTrader: 1 reviews	Well, just to give you an idea, my 3.8 has 130k on it...Hopefully if plans work out, it will be boosted in august __________________ For Sale: 99-04 smoked tail light covers 2000stallions Build Thread

July 5th, 2011, 11:03 PM	#6
mk1993 Enthusiast 01 true blue GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cville,Indiana Posts: 862 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh hell yeah! Im definately going to be checkin your progress __________________ 00' V6-basics, mostly visual, missed! SOLD 01' GT True blue, bbk CAI, slp lm1 catback, tinted tails, HIDs, tokio blues, chin spoiler, clear fogs, 18x9/10 chrome saleens wrapped in nitto 555's, MMD fuel door, more to come

July 5th, 2011, 11:17 PM	#7
Rich J I'm doing it wrong 04 Grand Cherokee Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 5,211 iTrader: 0 reviews	Miles don't matter on an engine if you plan on building it. All that matters is how the engine is holding up. Check compression and such, if all goes fine then boost it. __________________ Formerly known as Demon_54 "I feel the same way about disco as I do about herpes." - Hunter S. Thompson

July 5th, 2011, 11:21 PM	#8
mk1993 Enthusiast 01 true blue GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cville,Indiana Posts: 862 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok compression check, can i just go to a redular mechanic to get one? Sorry im used to HIDs, exhaust and exterior stuff, just now getting into engine stuff __________________ 00' V6-basics, mostly visual, missed! SOLD 01' GT True blue, bbk CAI, slp lm1 catback, tinted tails, HIDs, tokio blues, chin spoiler, clear fogs, 18x9/10 chrome saleens wrapped in nitto 555's, MMD fuel door, more to come

July 5th, 2011, 11:34 PM	#9
Rich J I'm doing it wrong 04 Grand Cherokee Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 5,211 iTrader: 0 reviews	You can do it yourself if you can handle a socket. Theres a bunch of youtube vids on how to do it. Just need to be able to take out your spark plugs __________________ Formerly known as Demon_54 "I feel the same way about disco as I do about herpes." - Hunter S. Thompson

July 6th, 2011, 11:27 AM	#10
WickedSnake00 MM's king of Neon's 404 - car not found 17.81@87 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Diesel Engine Capital of the World, Columbus, IN Posts: 7,376 iTrader: 0 reviews	You might be surprised at the shape your 3.8 is in, those things can run forever it seems. Rebuilds aren't too hard on OHV's either, especially if you have a complete engine to begin with (no scratching your head on what parts you may or may not need.) And M112's are pretty fun. (At least on 4.6 DOHC's ) Where in Indiana are you? I might be able to give you a hand if I get some free time, and I'm not wrenching on mine. __________________ Official Secondhand Snake Build Thread Here Looks Like a Cobra, Sounds Like a Cobra, Tastes Like a Cobra, Not a Cobra. For Sale: P71 Interceptor motor

July 6th, 2011, 12:34 PM	#11
mk1993 Enthusiast 01 true blue GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cville,Indiana Posts: 862 iTrader: 0 reviews	i live in crawfordsville, its about an hour west of indy and 30 min south of lafeyette, thanks for the offer man __________________ 00' V6-basics, mostly visual, missed! SOLD 01' GT True blue, bbk CAI, slp lm1 catback, tinted tails, HIDs, tokio blues, chin spoiler, clear fogs, 18x9/10 chrome saleens wrapped in nitto 555's, MMD fuel door, more to come

July 6th, 2011, 03:54 PM	#12
Lumoon Regular 2001 Mustang V6 Its a V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 460 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is this going to be a daily driver? I looked into the M112 setup for a DD and I was quickly ushered away from it due to heatsoak, thats when the block heats up and the S/C begins to heat up as well and thus increases the intake air temp, since the M112 isn't an intercooled S/C. If you plan on being a DD you may want to look into a centrifugal S/C. __________________ Done so far: 3.73 w/ lsd rear end. custom 91 octane tune by R Style Performance rebuilt 4r70w 24% UDP pulleys aluminum drive shaft Windstar ready to be installed pending ported lower intake arrival

July 7th, 2011, 12:25 AM	#14
mk1993 Enthusiast 01 true blue GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cville,Indiana Posts: 862 iTrader: 0 reviews	ive heard about heatsoak but im so deadset on this kit, i do plan on water/meth infjection __________________ 00' V6-basics, mostly visual, missed! SOLD 01' GT True blue, bbk CAI, slp lm1 catback, tinted tails, HIDs, tokio blues, chin spoiler, clear fogs, 18x9/10 chrome saleens wrapped in nitto 555's, MMD fuel door, more to come

July 7th, 2011, 11:26 PM	#20
mk1993 Enthusiast 01 true blue GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cville,Indiana Posts: 862 iTrader: 0 reviews	okay quick question! AM just got the procgarger kit in stock, should i go that route? Its intercooled so thats why i was curious, whats the procharger #'s compared to the M112? and for about the same price i think it might be worth it __________________ 00' V6-basics, mostly visual, missed! SOLD 01' GT True blue, bbk CAI, slp lm1 catback, tinted tails, HIDs, tokio blues, chin spoiler, clear fogs, 18x9/10 chrome saleens wrapped in nitto 555's, MMD fuel door, more to come

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