Bad sound

adryan · July 17th, 2011, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Rich J

Sound anything like this OP?

‪1999 Bravada 4.3L V6 noise rod knock‬&rlm; - YouTube

Yes... it sounds similar. I'll take a vid of the engine later and post for comparison.

Originally Posted by spaseghost

ive got a really bad sticking lifter on the driver side. It goes away after about a minute of idling after initial startup. I use BG MOA or Restore and that seems to work for a week or so. Ill post a vid for you tomorrow.

Thanks can't wait to see. BTW what is BG MOA and I'm guessing Restore is a brand.

Originally Posted by mcqueen

I was thinking that too. I've had a sticky lifter or two for a while and they never sounded like that.

Be careful driving that car too hard OP, last thing you want to do is throw a rod and end up needing a new block or something.

The ticking has changed my driving style and I don't want to do much more damage than there already is. If it is a bad rod, would there be a loss in compression and affect engine performance or something. I have no CEL and there's no change in performance, just the added ticking.

Here's a couple of rod knock vids...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrJiX_4qRwk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CL7uNYPUMg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yY1uPrB0Ww&feature=related

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spaseghost · July 17th, 2011, 01:29 PM

BG MOA is and oil additive that i used to use at dealerships. Restore is this blue stuff with what looks like metal shavings in it. They both are similar, its bondo, only for your engine.

1slowv6 · July 17th, 2011, 01:38 PM

well now you have an excuse to put a different cam in the car

replace cam and lifters good to go

spaseghost · July 18th, 2011, 02:07 AM

sorry, 10 piece wings and pitcher of blue moon for $20 got me all sorts of distracted. anyway, here is the sound of a sticky lifter. when i say gone, i really mean its gone, its only on inital startup then fades away relative to the time the engine idles down.

edit: i bought the car with 29k miles, it now has 69k miles and the noise has always been there. its embarassing, but doesnt create an issue with performance or mileage or driveability, just a little FYI. I think your is something closer to the crank than mine though... good luck.

adryan · July 18th, 2011, 10:03 PM

3.8 RIP

Problem escalation may have involved more than one failure in a driver side cylinder system and valve train. McQueen was correct in trying to watch out for other components to fail... the fact was eventual since the minor sticky lifter symptom may have been just a part of something else. Being the fouth owner, I purchased the vehicle wherein the first owner let the vehicle get repossesed via satellite killswitch at a Wendy's and was purchased afterwards by women drivers after it was repossesed.

‪03 Mustang Piston Slap and Rod Knocking‬&rlm; - YouTube

Options:

1. Have engine rebuilt (approx $1500)

2. Have 3.8 engine replaced (approx $1100 - engine and labour)
Turbo, Port Polish and Windstar Components and Install ($2400)
Comp Cam + Install ($600-800)
3.73 /T-Lok + Install ($6-800)

3. 4.6 V8 Engine Swap ($2000-2500 with A Grade used motor, Components + Install)
GT/Mach 1 Rear-end + supension ($1000... maybe if used)
5 Speed Manual Transmission.... ($?) Should be the same

4. Sell Vehicle (Cost $7k, Upgrades $2k, 70K Mileage, May get $4-5K with knock)
Buy GT after sale ($15k with 70k Mileage or more)

5. Trade in for 2012 5.0.... (The only way for me to get the 5.0 is to give this car to my daughter when she gets her license next year... "But honey... she really likesthe car and I need one")

I'm working on doing the 4.6 swap. If it does happen, I'll start a thread and keep you guys posted on the progress...

If you guys got a better advice, I would truly appreciate.

Adryan

Green_6er · July 18th, 2011, 10:10 PM

5.4 swap

adryan · July 18th, 2011, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Green_6er

5.4 swap

Thought of other engine swaps... There's also a 429 cu.in. in a Thunderbird sitting in my folk's garage... but there are too much mods and downtime. 4.6 swap seems to be a straight swap and i'm looking to get this done 2 weeks. I'll start the thread to get more info.

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Green_6er · July 18th, 2011, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by adryan

Thought of other engine swaps... There's also a 429 cu.in. in a Thunderbird sitting in my folk's garage... but there are too much mods and downtime. 4.6 swap seems to be a straight swap and i'm looking to get this done 2 weeks. I'll start the thread to get more info.

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but if your giving it to your daughter, why not swap a 1.9l escort engine in it, she can't do much racing or damage with that motor

but just get a donor car and the swap should be a cinch and cheap if you do it by yourself.

adryan · July 18th, 2011, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Green_6er

but if your giving it to your daughter, why not swap a 1.9l escort engine in it, she can't do much racing or damage with that motor but just get a donor car and the swap should be a cinch and cheap if you do it by yourself.

I'd give her a 2012 Shelby GT500 Super Snake ... but unfortunately, I am ashamed to say that I cannot. So she has to settle with my nostalgia since my first car was a '73 302 where my father took care of my ass to get it on the road at 15 before I even had a license...... and I smashed the shit out of it and the chrome bumper is still wrapped around that tree I think.

I'm aware of donor cars and all but keep in mind that I am not in the US. I am now Canadian, eh... as it seems. Options tend to be a bit skewed compared to when I was in New York. Canada is like Mars when it comes to cars.

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Green_6er · July 18th, 2011, 11:12 PM

ahh okay lol. and i know how you feel, my dad and I are workin on my first car, a 1966 mustang coupe with a 302 in it. My parents gave it to me when i was 12 and I have been restoring it little by little with my father. If your daughter is interested in cars and such you should get her involved

adryan · July 18th, 2011, 11:19 PM

I had a cherry red '68 289 v8 when she was born... I was happy that herr seat fit. Me and her have been cooking together for a bit and she is now interested in the cullinary arts... maybe even professionally. She actually runs the kitchen for a local bar on a part time basis. I play the guitar and now she is recieving awards for her musical skills. Cars are next and driving them too.

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Green_6er · July 18th, 2011, 11:51 PM

it sounds like you and your daughter have an amazing relationship. you should definitely get her involved.

July 17th, 2011, 01:29 PM	#22
spaseghost Regular It makes my wife horny 16.3@84@5kft Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Grand Junction, Colorado Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	BG MOA is and oil additive that i used to use at dealerships. Restore is this blue stuff with what looks like metal shavings in it. They both are similar, its bondo, only for your engine. __________________ 2003 Mustang - 3.8, 5spd., bbk, eibach no isos, duals, hids, 72k 1968 RS/SS Camaro - 350, .090 over, .500" lift, flows, M21 2004 Nissan Armada - HIDs, LEDs, sippy and DVDs 2002 F150 - Screw, 5.4l, GOTTS w/ K&N, flow super 44

July 17th, 2011, 01:38 PM	#23
1slowv6 Enthusiast 2000 v6 mustang Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: St. petersburg FL Posts: 738 iTrader: 1 reviews	well now you have an excuse to put a different cam in the car replace cam and lifters good to go __________________ If Nissan motorsports is Nismo..Wouldn't Honda motorsports be Homo?

July 18th, 2011, 02:07 AM	#24
spaseghost Regular It makes my wife horny 16.3@84@5kft Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Grand Junction, Colorado Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 reviews	sorry, 10 piece wings and pitcher of blue moon for $20 got me all sorts of distracted. anyway, here is the sound of a sticky lifter. when i say gone, i really mean its gone, its only on inital startup then fades away relative to the time the engine idles down. edit: i bought the car with 29k miles, it now has 69k miles and the noise has always been there. its embarassing, but doesnt create an issue with performance or mileage or driveability, just a little FYI. I think your is something closer to the crank than mine though... good luck. __________________ 2003 Mustang - 3.8, 5spd., bbk, eibach no isos, duals, hids, 72k 1968 RS/SS Camaro - 350, .090 over, .500" lift, flows, M21 2004 Nissan Armada - HIDs, LEDs, sippy and DVDs 2002 F150 - Screw, 5.4l, GOTTS w/ K&N, flow super 44 Last edited by spaseghost; July 18th, 2011 at 02:15 AM.

July 18th, 2011, 11:19 PM	#31
adryan Regular 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 249 iTrader: 0 reviews	I had a cherry red '68 289 v8 when she was born... I was happy that herr seat fit. Me and her have been cooking together for a bit and she is now interested in the cullinary arts... maybe even professionally. She actually runs the kitchen for a local bar on a part time basis. I play the guitar and now she is recieving awards for her musical skills. Cars are next and driving them too. A __________________ 2003 Mustang V6 Pony Edition \| 1968 Mustang RS \|1980 Datsun 280 ZX \| 1977 Camaro with '85 Intercooler Engine \| 1971 Cadillac 472 cu.in. (7.7L) Engine \| 1973 Mustang 5.0 Ragtop Last edited by adryan; July 18th, 2011 at 11:34 PM.

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