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Old September 22nd, 2011, 10:11 AM   #1
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4.3 Stroker need answers!!


Ok i want to save up for a 4.3 stroker but supersixmotorsports motors seem really overpriced. Is there any other companies that have the same quality motors cheaper. beceause 7k or 8k for a built v6 from supersixmotorsports is a little steep for me. Any suggestions and links would be greatly appreciated.
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Old September 22nd, 2011, 11:22 AM   #2
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Get your own 4.2 block and get the forged 4.2 rotating assembly and assemble it yourself?
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I think this is all you need plus a used 4.2 short block. Super six uses a stock 4.2 crankshaft, so you can use the one from the used block. Get the short block first
and have the block cleaned up and measured so you know what size pistons are needed.
You will probably want the block rebored and honed and checked for an align hone of the mains and resurfacing of the head gasket surfaces. You'll also want new bearings, timing chain, gaskets etc.

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I would think you would get a lot more power from top end modifications than from stroking the engine.
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Get your own 4.2 block and get the forged 4.2 rotating assembly and assemble it yourself?
From were a place like supersix? because if you add up all the parts it ends up being around the same price at least thats what i thought
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I think this is all you need plus a used 4.2 short block. Super six uses a stock 4.2 crankshaft, so you can use the one from the used block. Get the short block first
and have the block cleaned up and measured so you know what size pistons are needed.
You will probably want the block rebored and honed and checked for an align hone of the mains and resurfacing of the head gasket surfaces. You'll also want new bearings, timing chain, gaskets etc.

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I would think you would get a lot more power from top end modifications than from stroking the engine.
were are you finding these parts from? because i would rather get new parts instead of dealing with a used block and parts because getting a blocked machined shopped seems like a lot of money? I could be wrong?
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I have also heard of RPM that they sell pretty good 4.2 and 4.3 strokers but do not have a link to talk to them. But i mean if there are to expensive too maybe i will just clean up the motor i have and do a split port swap, heads, and intakes this summer. Just thought getting a new stroker would be cheaper then buying a used block and having it machined shopped and then piecing it together?
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Why do you need a forged stroker? I'd look into a 94/95 sc engine and freshen it up personally with a nice cam and bv heads.
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were are you finding these parts from? because i would rather get new parts instead of dealing with a used block and parts because getting a blocked machined shopped seems like a lot of money? I could be wrong?
The piston and rod kit is from Super six.

A used block would be better to build a performance engine since it has gone through many heat/cool cycles and is likely to not distort any more. If it was align honed, decked, and bored out it would be a good square casting.
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Why do you need a forged stroker? I'd look into a 94/95 sc engine and freshen it up personally with a nice cam and bv heads.
I plan on running a turbo setup down the line, and my goal is 500 hp. with a t-67 mm turbo setup. And i have had many problems with used motors starting with a forged and strong bottom end would set me at ease.
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The piston and rod kit is from Super six.

A used block would be better to build a performance engine since it has gone through many heat/cool cycles and is likely to not distort any more. If it was align honed, decked, and bored out it would be a good square casting.
Very good point, but finding a used honed, decked and bored out block seems to be hard to come by. I have a hard enough time finding mustang v6 parts in general. You have any suggestions of some places to look?
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Originally Posted by mustang95 5.0 View Post
Very good point, but finding a used honed, decked and bored out block seems to be hard to come by. I have a hard enough time finding mustang v6 parts in general. You have any suggestions of some places to look?
Just any wrecking yard will have a used F150 engine. Alternatively I believe the 3.8 and 4.2 blocks are the same, so you can use your block and just get the 4.2 crankshaft, or a new one isn't that expensive.
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Just any wrecking yard will have a used F150 engine. Alternatively I believe the 3.8 and 4.2 blocks are the same, so you can use your block and just get the 4.2 crankshaft, or a new one isn't that expensive.
ok well knowing that, that opens up alot more ways to find parts. thanks i didn't know the f150 had the same crankshaft.
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Machine work is going to be required no matter what you do.
Ya i was trying to avoid that buy gettting a whole new crate motor from supersix. But adding up just getting the heads and upper and lower intake split port swap from supersix and finding a f150 4.2 crank and just having my current block bored out with forged internals seems to be the cheaper way to go for the same build.
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thanks everyone for your comments does anyone know roughly how much it would cost to get my block bored and stroked with forged pistons and rods? Because i know machine shops usually isn't that cheap.
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Check out Morana racing too, they also sell v6 shit.

But I agree that your best route would be to get a used 3.8 or 4.2 and take it to a machine shop and get it cleaned up.
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Originally Posted by 01SilverSixer View Post
Check out Morana racing too, they also sell v6 shit.

But I agree that your best route would be to get a used 3.8 or 4.2 and take it to a machine shop and get it cleaned up.
after hearing what everyone had to say i think i am going to get my block cleaned up and stroked seems alot cheaper
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Another quick question want to make sure i have the right understanding. Supersix has a nice 4.3 rotating assembly with the forged pistons, rods etc. I would have to have my block bored out to to the specs of the piston correct because it is a 4.2 crank with a forged piston making it a 4.3 stroker assembly?
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I was going to have SSMS build my motor and after a year of research discovered that if you want 500rwhp you going to be into your motor a lot of money. I am having NA 4.3 being built right now.. Going to be 7800-8200 at around 425-435 dyno HP. SSMS can build a motor 8400 gives you around 350hp and then you add your power add. That will run you another 5-7k... So you looking at around 10-14k for a 500-600hp car...
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I was going to have SSMS build my motor and after a year of research discovered that if you want 500rwhp you going to be into your motor a lot of money. I am having NA 4.3 being built right now.. Going to be 7800-8200 at around 425-435 dyno HP. SSMS can build a motor 8400 gives you around 350hp and then you add your power add. That will run you another 5-7k... So you looking at around 10-14k for a 500-600hp car...

You wont see 350rwhp from an n/a essex v6, and if you do it won't be street driven.
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