I still dont get it

JASonic · May 23rd, 2007, 08:10 PM

I know this has been beat up before but I need to be convinced. Why would an electric blower not be a good idea? If you could create even 1 psi wouldnt it help? I mean, like on a short ram intake. That thing gulps up alot of air. Why not put some force behind it?

I used to build RC planes quite a bit. I always think back to the quality and power of a ducted fan engine. They get better and more efficient all the time. They are small and move a shit load of air at high velocity. Im so temped to attempt making my own just to see. If it fails , big deal. It might be fun trying.

It would be relativly easy to mount it in a place before the MAF sensor and maybe run it to a switch that turns it on and off when I need it. You could put it like on a "Y" with a flap that opens when the fan turns on but stays shut when your running through the normal filter.

Ya, I know this is probably stupid but there's smart people in here and I'd like to hear the comments.. rip it up.

HMUSN · May 23rd, 2007, 08:13 PM

the electric fan can't produce enough cfm to build boost man.

it just doesn't have enough power to make any power on a car.

02ponypackage · May 23rd, 2007, 08:14 PM

it will make 1 hp ive seen it

JASonic · May 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM

how much would it take? Im glad you replied becuase you seem to know this shit. How much CFM would you need ?

HMUSN · May 23rd, 2007, 08:17 PM

somewhere in the 800-1000 range.

02ponypackage · May 23rd, 2007, 08:17 PM

1hp ? i rather get a blowjob while driving...

97TunedMustang · May 23rd, 2007, 08:41 PM

It wouldnt be worth it. whatever little hp increase you might see from an electric fan is negated because it takes significant amperage to power the damn thing in the first place. so you lose what little power you gained because of the parasitic loss

JASonic · May 23rd, 2007, 08:46 PM

ok. this fan produces 55oz of thrust with the motor. It runs off of a 7.2 V rechargable battery. Thats like 3.5 pounds of thrust. The blade diameter is 88mm which is like 3.5 inches so it would fit well. I cant do the math to know what the CFM that would be.

02ponypackage · May 23rd, 2007, 08:47 PM

1hp at most

JASonic · May 23rd, 2007, 08:58 PM

with batteries getting better (like with hybrids) and electric motors getting better too, somebodys gonna figure this out and make a shit load of money on it. Just doesnt seem ready yet..

HMUSN · May 23rd, 2007, 09:00 PM

it has been figured out.

they are called superchargers.

JASonic · May 23rd, 2007, 09:03 PM

its a cost thing. Super chargers are how many thousands? You'll never get the same kind of gain but the parts would be well under 100 bucks.

HMUSN · May 23rd, 2007, 09:06 PM

thats the exact problem man.

your not going to get a good gain for under 100 bucks.

sure you could make that thing spin fast as hell and make good boost but it would cost a lot to make it do that.

plastic fans aren't supposed to spin that fast.

that's why s/c and turbos are metal and have bearings inside.

it's also a weight issue.

the more mass you have turning the more cfm your going to produce.

thats pretty much the issue in a nutshell.

02ponypackage · May 23rd, 2007, 09:08 PM

mass being Size...weight is not mass also a quick tip for those who dont know

HMUSN · May 23rd, 2007, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by 02ponypackage

mass being Size...weight is not mass also a quick tip for those who dont know

I should dumb it down next time

02ponypackage · May 23rd, 2007, 09:14 PM

well just some people think mass is weight...but mass is the size of something...example that girl has a massive ass...but i'd hit it lol

ByPopularDemand · May 23rd, 2007, 09:32 PM

Isn't this like the same idea as the tornado type, ebay electrick s/c's

HMUSN · May 23rd, 2007, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by ByPopularDemand

Isn't this like the same idea as the tornado type, ebay electrick s/c's

pretty much

94v6blkndred · May 23rd, 2007, 09:34 PM

yea man i wouldnt even waste the time, money and very little effort to put one of those on anything...except maybe to boost up your Dirt Devil or sumthin

ByPopularDemand · May 23rd, 2007, 09:40 PM

Oh well in that case save your 100 dollars for a mod that adds some power...cause those don't work

May 23rd, 2007, 08:10 PM	#1
JASonic The George Forman of Keepers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,385 iTrader: 20 reviews	I still dont get it I know this has been beat up before but I need to be convinced. Why would an electric blower not be a good idea? If you could create even 1 psi wouldnt it help? I mean, like on a short ram intake. That thing gulps up alot of air. Why not put some force behind it? I used to build RC planes quite a bit. I always think back to the quality and power of a ducted fan engine. They get better and more efficient all the time. They are small and move a shit load of air at high velocity. Im so temped to attempt making my own just to see. If it fails , big deal. It might be fun trying. It would be relativly easy to mount it in a place before the MAF sensor and maybe run it to a switch that turns it on and off when I need it. You could put it like on a "Y" with a flap that opens when the fan turns on but stays shut when your running through the normal filter. Ya, I know this is probably stupid but there's smart people in here and I'd like to hear the comments.. rip it up.

May 23rd, 2007, 08:13 PM	#2
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	the electric fan can't produce enough cfm to build boost man. it just doesn't have enough power to make any power on a car. __________________

May 23rd, 2007, 08:14 PM	#3
02ponypackage MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,405 iTrader: 0 reviews	it will make 1 hp ive seen it __________________ just a V6 with a bad belt slip under the hood

May 23rd, 2007, 08:17 PM	#5
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	somewhere in the 800-1000 range. __________________

May 23rd, 2007, 08:17 PM	#6
02ponypackage MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,405 iTrader: 0 reviews	1hp ? i rather get a blowjob while driving... __________________ just a V6 with a bad belt slip under the hood

May 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM	#4
JASonic The George Forman of Keepers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,385 iTrader: 20 reviews	how much would it take? Im glad you replied becuase you seem to know this shit. How much CFM would you need ?

May 23rd, 2007, 08:41 PM	#7
97TunedMustang Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 965 iTrader: 0 reviews	It wouldnt be worth it. whatever little hp increase you might see from an electric fan is negated because it takes significant amperage to power the damn thing in the first place. so you lose what little power you gained because of the parasitic loss __________________ 95 Civic Ex, FnF1's, Morimoto Mini h1 retrofit, GSR, bbk intake, BDL tb, 57trim t3/t4 8psi, 297whp 96 Civic Ex 2dr, G3 HID retrofit, FnF type 1's, Si cluster, Obd1 Z6 swap

May 23rd, 2007, 08:47 PM	#9
02ponypackage MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,405 iTrader: 0 reviews	1hp at most __________________ just a V6 with a bad belt slip under the hood

May 23rd, 2007, 08:58 PM	#10
JASonic The George Forman of Keepers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,385 iTrader: 20 reviews	with batteries getting better (like with hybrids) and electric motors getting better too, somebodys gonna figure this out and make a shit load of money on it. Just doesnt seem ready yet..

May 23rd, 2007, 09:00 PM	#11
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	it has been figured out. they are called superchargers. __________________

May 23rd, 2007, 09:03 PM	#12
JASonic The George Forman of Keepers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,385 iTrader: 20 reviews	its a cost thing. Super chargers are how many thousands? You'll never get the same kind of gain but the parts would be well under 100 bucks.

May 23rd, 2007, 09:06 PM	#13
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	thats the exact problem man. your not going to get a good gain for under 100 bucks. sure you could make that thing spin fast as hell and make good boost but it would cost a lot to make it do that. plastic fans aren't supposed to spin that fast. that's why s/c and turbos are metal and have bearings inside. it's also a weight issue. the more mass you have turning the more cfm your going to produce. thats pretty much the issue in a nutshell. __________________

May 23rd, 2007, 09:08 PM	#14
02ponypackage MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,405 iTrader: 0 reviews	mass being Size...weight is not mass also a quick tip for those who dont know __________________ just a V6 with a bad belt slip under the hood

May 23rd, 2007, 09:14 PM	#16
02ponypackage MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,405 iTrader: 0 reviews	well just some people think mass is weight...but mass is the size of something...example that girl has a massive ass...but i'd hit it lol __________________ just a V6 with a bad belt slip under the hood

May 23rd, 2007, 09:32 PM	#17
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,666 iTrader: 0 reviews	Isn't this like the same idea as the tornado type, ebay electrick s/c's __________________ 2000 V6 vert Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive pulley(r.i.p), SCT tune, 8.8 rear and 4.10 gears.

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May 23rd, 2007, 09:34 PM	#19
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea man i wouldnt even waste the time, money and very little effort to put one of those on anything...except maybe to boost up your Dirt Devil or sumthin __________________ 94v6.CAI,Exhaust,3:73s-needs rear end rebuild 02GT/Saleen.built motor,62mm turbo 412hp/446tq @10psi,stock TB and intake

May 23rd, 2007, 09:40 PM	#20
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,666 iTrader: 0 reviews	Oh well in that case save your 100 dollars for a mod that adds some power...cause those don't work __________________ 2000 V6 vert Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive pulley(r.i.p), SCT tune, 8.8 rear and 4.10 gears.

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