So I Need a New Water Pump.........

laser98 · September 26th, 2011, 01:03 PM

Anything particular I need to know? I have never changed one on these cars but it seems pretty straight forward. I have a 96 6er. Thanks.

mustangmike! · September 26th, 2011, 01:09 PM

RTV black silicone for gasket, a nice thin bead of that and let it sit a good while.

If its the same as my 04 then its super simple. Loosen the pulley bolts, take off belt, take off pulley. couple of bolts hold it on. Pull off. Scrape off gasket surface and clean it up. Apply RTV. put in place. Bolt down. Let RTV sit up awhile while you install the pulley back on. Put belt on. Tight pulley bolts. Go.

Probably gonna need to drain the coolant a bit, but may not be worth screwing with, just make sure engine is cool (do it in the morning or something) and pull the water pump off, make a small mess, get over it, do the job, and refill the little bit of coolant you spilled lol.

mustangmike! · September 26th, 2011, 01:23 PM

maybe a few details left out, but thats the basics ...

UnrealAce123 · September 26th, 2011, 01:43 PM

i had to go to kragen and get the pulley kit to take off the pulley lol. other then that its pretty easy but time consuming. i had 2 friends to help out. just order a pizza some sodas and go at it lol. do it on a weekend 2 cus it takes around 2 to 4 hrs. took me all day cus i was running to the store and back.

SlowSix · September 26th, 2011, 01:58 PM

Why would you use RTV and just not buy the correct gasket ??

ESG-642T · September 26th, 2011, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by 01SilverSixer

Why would you use RTV and just not buy the correct gasket ??

This.

dgt_mustang · September 26th, 2011, 02:01 PM

^i was going to post this.

mustangmike! · September 26th, 2011, 02:12 PM

id be willing to bet the RTV would hold up longer, but RTV is pretty usefull stuff, always good to have a tube around.
but use whatever you want lol either will work.

mustangmike! · September 26th, 2011, 02:18 PM

BTW OP, have you bought a new water pump yet ? If its the same as 94-04, the 4.2 water pump I have might work. Ill have to take a look at it and make sure its the same as my 04. That is if they used the same for all those years, idk ?

laser98 · September 26th, 2011, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by mustangmike!

BTW OP, have you bought a new water pump yet ? If its the same as 94-04, the 4.2 water pump I have might work. Ill have to take a look at it and make sure its the same as my 04. That is if they used the same for all those years, idk ?

Yeah I got one ordered and on the way.

mustangmike! · September 26th, 2011, 02:33 PM

ahh ok, well I know I have a timing cover from the 4.2, just cant remember If I have the water pump for sure, pretty sure I do. Idk if it works though lol

goren813 · September 26th, 2011, 07:00 PM

New Edges don't require a pulley remover, its held on by bolts. Not sure about the pre-99 SN95's.

There is a gasket but the manual also calls for silicone gasket maker to ensure a nice seal. Use both, maka no sense to do the job twice because of a leak.

Mike hit most points otherwise. If you don't have a Haynes manual, get one.

Edit: Take the time to make sure you get all the old gasket material removed. After a scraper for the main pieces, hit it with some 400grit to be sure. That's where I spent most of my time. Again, you don't want to have to do it twice because you rushed it or wern't thorough.

SlowSix · September 26th, 2011, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by goren813

New Edges don't require a pulley remover, its held on by bolts. Not sure about the pre-99 SN95's.

There is a gasket but the manual also calls for silicone gasket maker to ensure a nice seal. Use both, maka no sense to do the job twice because of a leak.

Mike hit most points otherwise. If you don't have a Haynes manual, get one.

Edit: Take the time to make sure you get all the old gasket material removed. After a scraper for the main pieces, hit it with some 400grit to be sure. That's where I spent most of my time. Again, you don't want to have to do it twice because you rushed it or wern't thorough.

sn95 pre 99 were also bolts, I changed the water pump on my buddy's 94 cobra before.

goren813 · September 26th, 2011, 09:42 PM

Unrealace had mentioned he needed a pully remover... not sure.

stephen · September 26th, 2011, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by goren813

Unrealace had mentioned he needed a pully remover... not sure.

The pulley puller is to remove the PS pulley.

What I do is to remove the battery, then unbolt the bracket the PS pump and alternator are mounted to and set it where the battery was. The two bolts underneath are a bit hard to get to but it's doable.

mustangmike! · September 26th, 2011, 11:33 PM

and were doing this why ?

goren813 · September 27th, 2011, 12:27 PM

Stupid design of the bracket that attaches to the face of the water pump. You have to remove the PS pulley to remove it before getting the water pump out. I had forgotten, I've taken that pulley off 3 times now (none of which to remove the PS pump). I hate the way they designed it.

Tang Stang · September 27th, 2011, 12:35 PM

Correct. In order to remove the water pump you have to remove the stamped steel bracket between the PS pump and the water pump, which requires the removal of the PS pump pulley. Most people leave that bracket off without any ill effects.

goren813 · September 27th, 2011, 06:33 PM

Makes sense to leave it off... pita esp. if you have to go rent a pulley remover, as I'm sure most do.

September 26th, 2011, 01:03 PM	#1
laser98 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 reviews	So I Need a New Water Pump......... Anything particular I need to know? I have never changed one on these cars but it seems pretty straight forward. I have a 96 6er. Thanks.

September 26th, 2011, 01:09 PM	#2
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	RTV black silicone for gasket, a nice thin bead of that and let it sit a good while. If its the same as my 04 then its super simple. Loosen the pulley bolts, take off belt, take off pulley. couple of bolts hold it on. Pull off. Scrape off gasket surface and clean it up. Apply RTV. put in place. Bolt down. Let RTV sit up awhile while you install the pulley back on. Put belt on. Tight pulley bolts. Go. Probably gonna need to drain the coolant a bit, but may not be worth screwing with, just make sure engine is cool (do it in the morning or something) and pull the water pump off, make a small mess, get over it, do the job, and refill the little bit of coolant you spilled lol. __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

September 26th, 2011, 01:23 PM	#3
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	maybe a few details left out, but thats the basics ... __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

September 26th, 2011, 01:58 PM	#5
SlowSix Formerly 01silversixer 2001 V6 15.47@89.57 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,471 iTrader: 1 reviews	Why would you use RTV and just not buy the correct gasket ?? __________________ Build Thread

September 26th, 2011, 02:12 PM	#8
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	id be willing to bet the RTV would hold up longer, but RTV is pretty usefull stuff, always good to have a tube around. but use whatever you want lol either will work. __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

September 26th, 2011, 01:43 PM	#4
UnrealAce123 Regular 97 Mustang V6 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vallejo,Ca Posts: 140 iTrader: 0 reviews	i had to go to kragen and get the pulley kit to take off the pulley lol. other then that its pretty easy but time consuming. i had 2 friends to help out. just order a pizza some sodas and go at it lol. do it on a weekend 2 cus it takes around 2 to 4 hrs. took me all day cus i was running to the store and back.

September 26th, 2011, 02:18 PM	#9
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	BTW OP, have you bought a new water pump yet ? If its the same as 94-04, the 4.2 water pump I have might work. Ill have to take a look at it and make sure its the same as my 04. That is if they used the same for all those years, idk ? __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

September 26th, 2011, 02:33 PM	#11
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	ahh ok, well I know I have a timing cover from the 4.2, just cant remember If I have the water pump for sure, pretty sure I do. Idk if it works though lol __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

September 26th, 2011, 07:00 PM	#12
goren813 MM's Official Lucifer '00 3.8L & '05 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 3,620 iTrader: 0 reviews	New Edges don't require a pulley remover, its held on by bolts. Not sure about the pre-99 SN95's. There is a gasket but the manual also calls for silicone gasket maker to ensure a nice seal. Use both, maka no sense to do the job twice because of a leak. Mike hit most points otherwise. If you don't have a Haynes manual, get one. Edit: Take the time to make sure you get all the old gasket material removed. After a scraper for the main pieces, hit it with some 400grit to be sure. That's where I spent most of my time. Again, you don't want to have to do it twice because you rushed it or wern't thorough. __________________ "Fast she goes...in the city of Overdose"

September 26th, 2011, 09:42 PM	#14
goren813 MM's Official Lucifer '00 3.8L & '05 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 3,620 iTrader: 0 reviews	Unrealace had mentioned he needed a pully remover... not sure. __________________ "Fast she goes...in the city of Overdose"

September 26th, 2011, 11:33 PM	#16
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	and were doing this why ? __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

September 27th, 2011, 12:27 PM	#17
goren813 MM's Official Lucifer '00 3.8L & '05 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 3,620 iTrader: 0 reviews	Stupid design of the bracket that attaches to the face of the water pump. You have to remove the PS pulley to remove it before getting the water pump out. I had forgotten, I've taken that pulley off 3 times now (none of which to remove the PS pump). I hate the way they designed it. __________________ "Fast she goes...in the city of Overdose"

September 27th, 2011, 12:35 PM	#18
Tang Stang Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 1,961 iTrader: 2 reviews	Correct. In order to remove the water pump you have to remove the stamped steel bracket between the PS pump and the water pump, which requires the removal of the PS pump pulley. Most people leave that bracket off without any ill effects. __________________ Rod @ AzzKicker Cars 2004 Ford Mustang GT-The Driver-BBK CAI, PP TB & Inlet, Steeda UD's, SLP LM1, & 3.73's. 1990 Mercury Cougar XR7-The Meth Addict-5.0L DOHC Stroker w/2.1L KB SC. 1995 Ford F150-Mud Toy-5.0L, 4x4, 33's, & Warn 8274 Winch

September 27th, 2011, 06:33 PM	#19
goren813 MM's Official Lucifer '00 3.8L & '05 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 3,620 iTrader: 0 reviews	Makes sense to leave it off... pita esp. if you have to go rent a pulley remover, as I'm sure most do. __________________ "Fast she goes...in the city of Overdose"

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