3:73/Tlok installed with SCT tune from bama on 2004 V6

LoneWolf11 · November 2nd, 2011, 08:22 AM

Well finally had my gears and tlok install along with the bearing and installation kits. The guy did a good job in the install and the shop is a great places for modding mustangs. the SCT tuner I put on was the 87 Performance

But,

The PITA whine can be heard on deceaccerlation when I let off the gas between 70 and 50 mph and goes away after 5 seconds on decellaration.

I currently in the 500 miles break in period, so far 278 miles on it and the gears are Ford OEM and TLOK is Ford Racing and the bearings and install kit is from Motive. They use the motorcraft gear oil as well as Ford Racing Friction thing.

I do not know if the tune is causing this or the noise is gear whine as it howls noticiably. I could live with it if nothing is wrong and install to the best of it ability. I could vouch for the guy that did my install because he lets me watch the whole time and shows me the step by step process. I going to give them a call later on.

but would like to hear from you guys before proceeding and why do they whine?

eleanorGT · November 2nd, 2011, 08:29 AM

Usually brand new gears whine, especcially if you are installing 3.73 and Tlock at the same time.. let it break in, and come back to us.... if it keeps whining after about 700 miles or so, Im talking noticably, then the i9nstall was off... usually means the dears are too tight, or it could be there too loose.. they have to be.. JUST RIGHT

mcqueen · November 2nd, 2011, 08:59 AM

Finish your break in period and if they're still whining then call the shop. I had 4.10s and a FR Tlok in my old V6 and they whined quite a bit but I never really let it bother me. I didn't follow the break in instructions (let it rip and had the tires spinning after I left the shop's parking lot) so that might have contributed to it but I think the install was a little off. Never had any issues with them aside from a little whining between 45 and 60mph.

mustangmike! · November 2nd, 2011, 09:07 AM

just get a louder exhaust :p

dgt_mustang · November 2nd, 2011, 09:31 AM

Report back on the better pickup too! i always enjoy it when someone talk about it.

LoneWolf11 · November 2nd, 2011, 09:50 AM

will do, then. I drive alot on the highway but I am obeying the speed limit mostly 65 mph highway and 55 mph.

I give the mechanic a call just to let him know and will continue the breakin until 1000 miles if need be!

dgt_mustang · November 2nd, 2011, 09:58 AM

I assume you went to the dealer for OEM gears in 3.73?

LoneWolf11 · November 2nd, 2011, 10:28 AM

no I went to Big Daddy Performance in south Jersey. They do all my mods. I go to JDM also when they aren't too booked. Good folks and honest

should I have went to the dealer since tlok and gears are ford oem for installation or do you mean if I bought it from the ford dealer? I actually got the gears from Stangmods.com which located a ford dealer that had them since it came in a ford geniune box.

I got done talking to the mechanic and he said that the howling noise when decerallerating is due to "gear float" which is nothing bad. The noise isn't loud or anything.

as for the performance i have to say that 373 and tlok should have been standard in our vehecile. and yeah it spins beautifully other then the supposiblily gear float.

exhaust well i have the pypes true dual exhaust. I do not recommend Pypes because there quality is horrible but the sound is good.

2000stallion · November 2nd, 2011, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by LoneWolf11

exhaust well i have the pypes true dual exhaust. I do not recommend Pypes because there quality is horrible but the sound is good.

sounds like we have the same system...And i agree...I love the sound, but the fitment is shit..

AMChrisYoung · November 3rd, 2011, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by LoneWolf11

I do not know if the tune is causing this or the noise is gear whine as it howls noticiably. I could live with it if nothing is wrong and install to the best of it ability. I could vouch for the guy that did my install because he lets me watch the whole time and shows me the step by step process. I going to give them a call later on.

but would like to hear from you guys before proceeding and why do they whine?

It's definitely not going to be the tune, as the whine is a mechanical sound made by the gears "breaking-in" as they're meshing together. Drive the car with normal/regular/sane driving for 500-1000 miles and it should go away just fine. If you are still having troubles, go to your installer and have the fluid changed/flushed for something slightly heavier in weight. This will help quiet them down.

I hope this helps!

Good luck!

ESG-642T · November 3rd, 2011, 08:57 PM

shitty install my gears have never whined.... not day 1 , not after 4 years, etc.

6ixer · November 3rd, 2011, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by mcqueen

Finish your break in period and if they're still whining then call the shop. I had 4.10s and a FR Tlok in my old V6 and they whined quite a bit but I never really let it bother me. I didn't follow the break in instructions (let it rip and had the tires spinning after I left the shop's parking lot) so that might have contributed to it but I think the install was a little off. Never had any issues with them aside from a little whining between 45 and 60mph.

Ok tht is normall then mcqueen cuz mine do the exact thing...45mph too about 55..mabey 65 they whine...I'm used to it but its drives my girlfriend nuts

LoneWolf11 · November 4th, 2011, 09:05 AM

Thank you all for the help. I let the installer know of this 2 days ago and he mention something about it is due to "gear float". and he mention the similiar ideas that chrisyoung mentioned

AMChrisYoung: the tune is great and I like it. I did not meant to bash Bama in anyway. I am new to the modding lifestyle and learning about all this to get knowledge

I could live with the whine if that's the case, but I don't want to be put in a situation where it will hurt my DD. the tlok and motive bearing and install kit, along with Ford OEM 3:73 is a huge improvement in traction and acceraltion and after 1000 miles I am dying to push it. and do 2 wheels burnouts

My sixxer is a test platform as I am getting new to the modding trend and plan on doing serious stuff when I purchase the 50th anniversay mustang and learning the performance tendancy & strategize so when I upgrade to the V8's in 2014, I have idea and knowlege on future goals

Xzavier247 · November 4th, 2011, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by LoneWolf11

the performance tendancy & strategize so when I upgrade to the V8's in 2014, I have idea and knowlege on future goals

I'm right there with you bro lol saving up the dough for the beast!

Mexabilly · November 6th, 2011, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by 6ixer

Ok tht is normall then mcqueen cuz mine do the exact thing...45mph too about 55..mabey 65 they whine...I'm used to it but its drives my girlfriend nuts

Psssh u haz teh girlfriend mod

tell her to stop complaining or to go make a sammitch

6ixer · November 7th, 2011, 12:25 AM

Eh she's used to it now, we just crank the radio, little asking alexandria, bullet for my valentine...some all that remains ect...sides I can car less bout the whine as I said I'm used to it and pretty soon ill be in the market for a gt

November 2nd, 2011, 08:22 AM	#1
LoneWolf11 Regular 2004 Ford Mustang 3.9L V6 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	3:73/Tlok installed with SCT tune from bama on 2004 V6 Well finally had my gears and tlok install along with the bearing and installation kits. The guy did a good job in the install and the shop is a great places for modding mustangs. the SCT tuner I put on was the 87 Performance But, The PITA whine can be heard on deceaccerlation when I let off the gas between 70 and 50 mph and goes away after 5 seconds on decellaration. I currently in the 500 miles break in period, so far 278 miles on it and the gears are Ford OEM and TLOK is Ford Racing and the bearings and install kit is from Motive. They use the motorcraft gear oil as well as Ford Racing Friction thing. I do not know if the tune is causing this or the noise is gear whine as it howls noticiably. I could live with it if nothing is wrong and install to the best of it ability. I could vouch for the guy that did my install because he lets me watch the whole time and shows me the step by step process. I going to give them a call later on. but would like to hear from you guys before proceeding and why do they whine?

November 2nd, 2011, 09:07 AM	#4
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	just get a louder exhaust :p __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

November 3rd, 2011, 08:57 PM	#11
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,319 iTrader: 0 reviews	shitty install my gears have never whined.... not day 1 , not after 4 years, etc. __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

November 7th, 2011, 12:25 AM	#16
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	Eh she's used to it now, we just crank the radio, little asking alexandria, bullet for my valentine...some all that remains ect...sides I can car less bout the whine as I said I'm used to it and pretty soon ill be in the market for a gt __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

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November 2nd, 2011, 08:29 AM	#2
eleanorGT Regular 2001 Mustang 3.8 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Malden, MA Posts: 286 iTrader: 0 reviews	Usually brand new gears whine, especcially if you are installing 3.73 and Tlock at the same time.. let it break in, and come back to us.... if it keeps whining after about 700 miles or so, Im talking noticably, then the i9nstall was off... usually means the dears are too tight, or it could be there too loose.. they have to be.. JUST RIGHT

November 2nd, 2011, 09:50 AM	#6
LoneWolf11 Regular 2004 Ford Mustang 3.9L V6 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	will do, then. I drive alot on the highway but I am obeying the speed limit mostly 65 mph highway and 55 mph. I give the mechanic a call just to let him know and will continue the breakin until 1000 miles if need be!

November 2nd, 2011, 10:28 AM	#8
LoneWolf11 Regular 2004 Ford Mustang 3.9L V6 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	no I went to Big Daddy Performance in south Jersey. They do all my mods. I go to JDM also when they aren't too booked. Good folks and honest should I have went to the dealer since tlok and gears are ford oem for installation or do you mean if I bought it from the ford dealer? I actually got the gears from Stangmods.com which located a ford dealer that had them since it came in a ford geniune box. I got done talking to the mechanic and he said that the howling noise when decerallerating is due to "gear float" which is nothing bad. The noise isn't loud or anything. as for the performance i have to say that 373 and tlok should have been standard in our vehecile. and yeah it spins beautifully other then the supposiblily gear float. exhaust well i have the pypes true dual exhaust. I do not recommend Pypes because there quality is horrible but the sound is good.

November 4th, 2011, 09:05 AM	#13
LoneWolf11 Regular 2004 Ford Mustang 3.9L V6 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 58 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thank you all for the help. I let the installer know of this 2 days ago and he mention something about it is due to "gear float". and he mention the similiar ideas that chrisyoung mentioned AMChrisYoung: the tune is great and I like it. I did not meant to bash Bama in anyway. I am new to the modding lifestyle and learning about all this to get knowledge I could live with the whine if that's the case, but I don't want to be put in a situation where it will hurt my DD. the tlok and motive bearing and install kit, along with Ford OEM 3:73 is a huge improvement in traction and acceraltion and after 1000 miles I am dying to push it. and do 2 wheels burnouts My sixxer is a test platform as I am getting new to the modding trend and plan on doing serious stuff when I purchase the 50th anniversay mustang and learning the performance tendancy & strategize so when I upgrade to the V8's in 2014, I have idea and knowlege on future goals

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