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Old June 1st, 2007, 02:39 AM   #1
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Single Port vs. Split Port


Ok, so maybe I didnt pay much attention to the subject... Thats my bad.

So the pros and cons of both if some people would care to share, please? From what Ive seen/read, I believe the split port set up is best.

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Split port is a better intake and came on the 99-04 6ers...it added 40 hp more than the single port 94-98 6ers...the only pro of the single port is you can slap a super coupe s/c from on them
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Pretty much the last part of what you said on the only pro of the single ported intakes is what I needed to know. So nothing good comes from single ported intakes. lol. That pretty much wraps this topic up. Thanks!
 
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not sure


but I think single port WITH the s/c dosnt put out much more power than the split port?
 
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The primary advantage of the New Edge split-port engines over the SN-95 single-ports is the block reinforcement allowing for a higher redline, not the intake itself. For comparison's sake, specs are as follows...

1998 = 150 HP @ 4000 RPM 215 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM
1999 = 190 HP @ 5250 RPM 220 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM

If you run the numbers, real-world performance difference isn't huge. One of the more significant improvements, although it has nothing to do with the engine itself, is that the New Edge mustangs came with better, steeper ring and pinion gears, allowing for improved acceleration over the older SN-95s. Of course this is made even more useful by the higher redline point, so yeah...
 
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obvioulsy the split is better...thats why they made it
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Originally Posted by Ehecu
The primary advantage of the New Edge split-port engines over the SN-95 single-ports is the block reinforcement allowing for a higher redline, not the intake itself. For comparison's sake, specs are as follows...

1998 = 150 HP @ 4000 RPM 215 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM
1999 = 190 HP @ 5250 RPM 220 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM

Run the numbers... Real-world performance difference isn't huge. One of the more significant improvements, although it has nothing to do with the engine itself, is that the New Edge mustangs came with better, steeper ring and pinion gears, allowing for improved acceleration over the older SN-95s. Of course this is made even more useful by the higher redline point, so yeah...
the blocks are both the same its an essex block, ask any one who has done the single to split swap and they will tell you its the intake that makes the difference. the hp range you posted dude is under red line for either engine. so what the hell are you talking about both of the sn95 and the new edge sn95 red line at 5500rpm so 190 HP @ 5250 RPM and 150 HP @ 4000 RPM are both before redline. and ps throw some 3.27 gears in the 94-98 v6 and ill still stomp all over you cuz 40 hp is 40 fuckin hp and i dont know where u get your thought proses form but its ass backwards and miss informed. The is about 40 hoars power of real word difference. bud. :stupid :topicsucks
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oh i forgot to add the Splitport gives you more top end gains hence why the new edge sn95 has a longer and higher power band. and its max hp is achieved higher up in the rpm range.
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Jug,

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Where did you get that BS meter I must have it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
Right click and save it then lmao.... and i save it for very very VERY special occasions but this guy has so much bs i just had to use it lol. i dont know where the hell he got his info from but it must have been from the mustang spec book they give out in a cracker jack box for Christ sakes lol seriously man the life boat on his statement lol 40 hp is a negligible difference if i had 40 more hp id be running with the gt's for fuck sakes and they haul allot more ass then i do. :wink
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Oh I know that, buy any chance do you have a link to the other 3 settings or is it just one in the Red?

Man I need that for somebody in particular lol~
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Oh I know that, buy any chance do you have a link to the other 3 settings or is it just one in the Red?

Man I need that for somebody in particular lol~
well ive only got man the life boat but i could edit it in adobe image ready easily enough
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Originally Posted by Juggalo_X
Originally Posted by Ehecu
The primary advantage of the New Edge split-port engines over the SN-95 single-ports is the block reinforcement allowing for a higher redline, not the intake itself. For comparison's sake, specs are as follows...

1998 = 150 HP @ 4000 RPM 215 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM
1999 = 190 HP @ 5250 RPM 220 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM

Run the numbers... Real-world performance difference isn't huge. One of the more significant improvements, although it has nothing to do with the engine itself, is that the New Edge mustangs came with better, steeper ring and pinion gears, allowing for improved acceleration over the older SN-95s. Of course this is made even more useful by the higher redline point, so yeah...
the blocks are both the same its an essex block, ask any one who has done the single to split swap and they will tell you its the intake that makes the difference. the hp range you posted dude is under red line for either engine. so what the hell are you talking about both of the sn95 and the new edge sn95 red line at 5500rpm so 190 HP @ 5250 RPM and 150 HP @ 4000 RPM are both before redline. and ps throw some 3.27 gears in the 94-98 v6 and ill still stomp all over you cuz 40 hp is 40 fuckin hp and i dont know where u get your thought proses form but its ass backwards and miss informed. The is about 40 hoars power of real word difference. bud. :stupid :topicsucks
Hi - You're an idiot. Kindly learn to read and, while you're at it, pull your head out of your ass.

The SN-95 and New Edge engines do not redline at the same point, and that's exactly my point! What does a '99 engine produce at 4,000 RPM? Not a hell of a lot different numbers than a '98, or a 96/97 for that matter. Different? Yes. Higher? Also yes, but not by 40 HP.

40 HP doesn't mean 40 HP, not all the time anyway, and not under all rotational speeds. Sorry bud, but you don't produce the same HP at idle as you do at redline, and that's the whole backbone of my argument if you'd have read through my post before posting your childish bs. The block didn't change, and that's not what I meant with the whole reinforcement thing, but there's a reason the redline is so much higher on the New Edge engines, and it certainly isn't in the intake. It does, however, account for a large portion of the massive HP difference between the two generations.

You'd be hard pressed to find dyno graphs that show a genuine 40 HP difference between the two generations while the engines are running the same RPM. I never said the New Edge wasn't faster, because it most certainly is, I'm just trying to point out how exagerated the difference often is.
 
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Originally Posted by Ehecu
Originally Posted by Juggalo_X
Originally Posted by Ehecu
The primary advantage of the New Edge split-port engines over the SN-95 single-ports is the block reinforcement allowing for a higher redline, not the intake itself. For comparison's sake, specs are as follows...

1998 = 150 HP @ 4000 RPM 215 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM
1999 = 190 HP @ 5250 RPM 220 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM

Run the numbers... Real-world performance difference isn't huge. One of the more significant improvements, although it has nothing to do with the engine itself, is that the New Edge mustangs came with better, steeper ring and pinion gears, allowing for improved acceleration over the older SN-95s. Of course this is made even more useful by the higher redline point, so yeah...
the blocks are both the same its an essex block, ask any one who has done the single to split swap and they will tell you its the intake that makes the difference. the hp range you posted dude is under red line for either engine. so what the hell are you talking about both of the sn95 and the new edge sn95 red line at 5500rpm so 190 HP @ 5250 RPM and 150 HP @ 4000 RPM are both before redline. and ps throw some 3.27 gears in the 94-98 v6 and ill still stomp all over you cuz 40 hp is 40 fuckin hp and i dont know where u get your thought proses form but its ass backwards and miss informed. The is about 40 hoars power of real word difference. bud. :stupid :topicsucks
Hi - You're an idiot. Kindly learn to read and, while you're at it, pull your head out of your ass.

The SN-95 and New Edge engines do not redline at the same point, and that's exactly my point! What does a '99 engine produce at 4,000 RPM? Not a hell of a lot different numbers than a '98, or a 96/97 for that matter. Different? Yes. Higher? Also yes, but not by 40 HP.

40 HP doesn't mean 40 HP, not all the time anyway, and not under all rotational speeds. Sorry bud, but you don't produce the same HP at idle as you do at redline, and that's the whole backbone of my argument if you'd have read through my post before posting your childish bs. The block didn't change, and that's not what I meant with the whole reinforcement thing, but there's a reason the redline is so much higher on the New Edge engines, and it certainly isn't in the intake. It does, however, account for a large portion of the massive HP difference between the two generations.

You'd be hard pressed to find dyno graphs that show a genuine 40 HP difference between the two generations while the engines are running the same RPM. I never said the New Edge wasn't faster, because it most certainly is, I'm just trying to point out how exagerated the difference often is.
i stand corrected 600-700 rpm off there max hp range and redline rpm off that, BTW the reason for the rpm gain is that the engine is balanced differently, still at the crank is 40 more hp that i have that you dont. period thats what it was engine dynoed from ford thats what we go by. and no shit u dont produce the same hp at idle as you do at redline why the hell do you think they say max hp @ a certain rpm derrr i think we all understand that. Engine reinforcement never happened BTW, it was all due to the way they balanced the engine.... have you ever heard of the fact that a lighter drive shaft more so carbon fiber will allow a higher rpm range? because its balanced better and donesnt flex like a steal one does. and you saying the block didnt change but i read that they reinforced the block in your first post how can you not mean a change to the block when u specifically say it was reinforced. sn95 are slow as fuck because of gears, if u replace the gears they get bumped up to slow as hell. and if 40 hp dont mean 40 hp then how do you know 150 hp means 150 hp and 190 means 190 hp? give me a new edge with a single port on it it will red line the same as it did before its not going to reach 190 stock at the crank. maybe 165 if your feeling lucky.
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Originally Posted by Ehecu
Originally Posted by Juggalo_X
Originally Posted by Ehecu
The primary advantage of the New Edge split-port engines over the SN-95 single-ports is the block reinforcement allowing for a higher redline, not the intake itself. For comparison's sake, specs are as follows...

1998 = 150 HP @ 4000 RPM 215 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM
1999 = 190 HP @ 5250 RPM 220 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM

Run the numbers... Real-world performance difference isn't huge. One of the more significant improvements, although it has nothing to do with the engine itself, is that the New Edge mustangs came with better, steeper ring and pinion gears, allowing for improved acceleration over the older SN-95s. Of course this is made even more useful by the higher redline point, so yeah...
the blocks are both the same its an essex block, ask any one who has done the single to split swap and they will tell you its the intake that makes the difference. the hp range you posted dude is under red line for either engine. so what the hell are you talking about both of the sn95 and the new edge sn95 red line at 5500rpm so 190 HP @ 5250 RPM and 150 HP @ 4000 RPM are both before redline. and ps throw some 3.27 gears in the 94-98 v6 and ill still stomp all over you cuz 40 hp is 40 fuckin hp and i dont know where u get your thought proses form but its ass backwards and miss informed. The is about 40 hoars power of real word difference. bud. :stupid :topicsucks
Hi - You're an idiot. Kindly learn to read and, while you're at it, pull your head out of your ass.

The SN-95 and New Edge engines do not redline at the same point, and that's exactly my point! What does a '99 engine produce at 4,000 RPM? Not a hell of a lot different numbers than a '98, or a 96/97 for that matter. Different? Yes. Higher? Also yes, but not by 40 HP.

40 HP doesn't mean 40 HP, not all the time anyway, and not under all rotational speeds. Sorry bud, but you don't produce the same HP at idle as you do at redline, and that's the whole backbone of my argument if you'd have read through my post before posting your childish bs. The block didn't change, and that's not what I meant with the whole reinforcement thing, but there's a reason the redline is so much higher on the New Edge engines, and it certainly isn't in the intake. It does, however, account for a large portion of the massive HP difference between the two generations.

You'd be hard pressed to find dyno graphs that show a genuine 40 HP difference between the two generations while the engines are running the same RPM. I never said the New Edge wasn't faster, because it most certainly is, I'm just trying to point out how exagerated the difference often is.
r u one of those assholes from stangnet or something???

:stupid 40 h.p more is always 40 more
an example would be lets say u have 120 h.p at 3,000 rpm i would have 160 at the same rpm (is just an example)

these r the only motor changes done.. beside the split port and I believe those changes where only made to accomodate the split-port


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1.a 94-98 Mustangs:
1.a Engine specifications:
3.8L 145 hp V6
Horsepower 145 @ 4000 RPM *note 96-98 +5 h.p
Torque (lb-ft) 215 @ 2750 RPM
Valves/Valve Configuration 12/OHV
Displacement (cc) 3802
Bore X Stroke (in.) 3.81 X 3.39
Compression Ratio 9.0:1
Fuel Type/System Gas/SEFI

1.b 99-04 Mustangs:
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3.8L 190 hp V6
Horsepower 190 @ 5250 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 220 @ 2750 RPM
Valves/Valve Configuration 12/OHV
Displacement (cc) 3802
Bore X Stroke (in.) 3.80 X 3.40
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Originally Posted by El_Cangri
Originally Posted by Ehecu
Originally Posted by Juggalo_X
Originally Posted by Ehecu
The primary advantage of the New Edge split-port engines over the SN-95 single-ports is the block reinforcement allowing for a higher redline, not the intake itself. For comparison's sake, specs are as follows...

1998 = 150 HP @ 4000 RPM 215 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM
1999 = 190 HP @ 5250 RPM 220 FT/LBS @ 2750 RPM

Run the numbers... Real-world performance difference isn't huge. One of the more significant improvements, although it has nothing to do with the engine itself, is that the New Edge mustangs came with better, steeper ring and pinion gears, allowing for improved acceleration over the older SN-95s. Of course this is made even more useful by the higher redline point, so yeah...
the blocks are both the same its an essex block, ask any one who has done the single to split swap and they will tell you its the intake that makes the difference. the hp range you posted dude is under red line for either engine. so what the hell are you talking about both of the sn95 and the new edge sn95 red line at 5500rpm so 190 HP @ 5250 RPM and 150 HP @ 4000 RPM are both before redline. and ps throw some 3.27 gears in the 94-98 v6 and ill still stomp all over you cuz 40 hp is 40 fuckin hp and i dont know where u get your thought proses form but its ass backwards and miss informed. The is about 40 hoars power of real word difference. bud. :stupid :topicsucks
Hi - You're an idiot. Kindly learn to read and, while you're at it, pull your head out of your ass.

The SN-95 and New Edge engines do not redline at the same point, and that's exactly my point! What does a '99 engine produce at 4,000 RPM? Not a hell of a lot different numbers than a '98, or a 96/97 for that matter. Different? Yes. Higher? Also yes, but not by 40 HP.

40 HP doesn't mean 40 HP, not all the time anyway, and not under all rotational speeds. Sorry bud, but you don't produce the same HP at idle as you do at redline, and that's the whole backbone of my argument if you'd have read through my post before posting your childish bs. The block didn't change, and that's not what I meant with the whole reinforcement thing, but there's a reason the redline is so much higher on the New Edge engines, and it certainly isn't in the intake. It does, however, account for a large portion of the massive HP difference between the two generations.

You'd be hard pressed to find dyno graphs that show a genuine 40 HP difference between the two generations while the engines are running the same RPM. I never said the New Edge wasn't faster, because it most certainly is, I'm just trying to point out how exagerated the difference often is.
r u one of those assholes from stangnet or something???

:stupid 40 h.p more is always 40 more
an example would be lets say u have 120 h.p at 3,000 rpm i would have 160 at the same rpm (is just an example)

these r the only motor changes done.. beside the split port and I believe those changes where only made to accomodate the split-port


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1.a 94-98 Mustangs:
1.a Engine specifications:
3.8L 145 hp V6
Horsepower 145 @ 4000 RPM *note 96-98 +5 h.p
Torque (lb-ft) 215 @ 2750 RPM
Valves/Valve Configuration 12/OHV
Displacement (cc) 3802
Bore X Stroke (in.) 3.81 X 3.39
Compression Ratio 9.0:1
Fuel Type/System Gas/SEFI

1.b 99-04 Mustangs:
1.b Engine Specifications:
3.8L 190 hp V6
Horsepower 190 @ 5250 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 220 @ 2750 RPM
Valves/Valve Configuration 12/OHV
Displacement (cc) 3802
Bore X Stroke (in.) 3.80 X 3.40
Compression Ratio 9.3:1
Fuel Type/System Gas/SEFI
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Take a single port and race a split port the loss should indicate that it has more power
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Take a single port and race a split port the loss should indicate that it has more power
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yup when racing every h.p counts. 2 = match drivers but if one has 2 more h.p he could win by a hair... and i'm serious
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