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Old December 17th, 2011, 12:29 PM   #21
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I understand why he said that. It just kind of made me question whether that was still what I wanted to do.
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Originally Posted by 01SilverSixer View Post
I understand why he said that. It just kind of made me question whether that was still what I wanted to do.
Is this a subliminal 'get a turbo' message? I want the torque that you get from a supercharger tho. I think imma stick with it. Maybe I'll add a turbo later? I dunno but I'm gonna do this, I'm in too deep

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This is the 2 side by side. Ford (top) had those 2 ridges around the gears that kept the gm snout from sliding all the way on


This is the gm m90 snout and rotors sliding into the ford housing, fits nicely
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My entire valve train and valves are gm.
LOL Mine is too, but he was asking about the block internals. No, the Vortech engine internals won't fit our blocks.
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Originally Posted by 01SilverSixer View Post
Not to thread hijack, but quick question. I picked up my car yesterday and was talking to the machinist at Street Lethal, and he told me that the m112 is a bad idea.
Said they have tuned a couple of them and the quality on the intake plates is terrible, and the charge temps are way too high, couldn't tune the car very well due to the temps.

He actually recommended doing a m90 over an m112 if I wanted a roots, but said procharger or turbo would be better in the long run.

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there are a lot of knock-offs out there, and if the engineering is done incorrectly, yes the plates can cause catastrophe.

If done right, the M112 is very effective on our motors. Get a Mysteed or SSM adapter and you will be fine.

I am finishing my design soon, and after testing if it works out well I will market it. but for now it's under wraps. If IATs are too high you can always add meth for control.
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LOL Mine is too, but he was asking about the block internals. No, the Vortech engine internals won't fit our blocks.
What gm parts are you guys running in the valve train? I guess the only options for the rotating assembly are the tbird sc forged pistons and rods? Is there a vehicle that has a forged 4.2 or 4.3 crankshaft? I wanna do a stroker swap at the same time as the blower. Or is the e/f150 crank good enough?
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yea I haven't heard of the F-150 cranks having any issues. It's always the rods that give out first.

When you install a performance cam, the LS6 yellow valvesprings are a great upgrade (out of a corvette Z06) and they are a drop in as long as you use 2V GT retainers.
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seems like this guy has done it:
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seems like this guy has done it:
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Looks like he deleted the ic and did a custom manifold, I'm going with the oem tbird manifold, maybe port it. Looks like the complete gm m90 also with the different style housing. I'm hoping to keep it all in the hood, I still wanna drive on the road. But he said he spent $1500 (including the car) and his car is now boosted.... that's the idea I'm going for
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I'm not really sure how the m90 setup works or what it looks like...but does anyone think it would be possible to modify it for a split port?
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Originally Posted by ESG-642T View Post
seems like this guy has done it:
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/\/\/\/\ Probably something similar to the way this guy did it? Looks like the gm m90 mounted like that could possibly fit the same manifold as the m112

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I'm not really sure how the m90 setup works or what it looks like...but does anyone think it would be possible to modify it for a split port?
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m90 fitting m112 adapter.... with another adapter?
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dapts on dapts on dapts
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m90 fitting m112 adapter.... with another adapter?
...maybe? lol
I don't know what the bottom of the m90 looks like.

Kenne bell needs to make a 3.8 blower kit lol
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...maybe? lol
I don't know what the bottom of the m90 looks like.

Kenne bell needs to make a 3.8 blower kit lol

I think that company is in the market to make money, not lose it.
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I think that company is in the market to make money, not lose it.
I'd buy one. <_<
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If you were willing to buy 50, i bet they would make you a kit.
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it's hard as hell to find a reliable source for underdrive pulleys, the chances of a bolt on supercharger kit is not gonna happen...

you should be able to install a KB with the mysteed kit. though EVERY KB would be overkill for our motors. Never seen anyone max out the M112
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And even the mysteed kit only drives the m112 at 75% with the udp.
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Updates...

Still can't find an intake manifold at a decent price so still no blower. But I just finished upgrading the cooling stuff. 2 core aluminum radiator from a GT, Overflow bottle from a Crown Victoria (It was the only similar 4.6l car I could find in the junk yard, fits really well though), and custom lower radiator hose.

Had to plug these holes, I think they're for a transmission cooler?


My lower radiator hose with the T spliced in


Lower hose installed, from underneath looking up


Recycled the old overflow tank mount for the Crown Vic overflow tank


Tank fits nicely inside of the v6 upper hose. Clears the belts and everything


Should this be sufficient enough cooling to run without an intercooler? Thinking about going with one of these set-ups to simplify the process. Thoughts??
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