Which is the best suspension?

mangogirl205 · February 1st, 2012, 06:29 PM

Sorry forgot to ask. Will I need to replace the ball joints , spring isolators or caster camber plates?

I am doing the Tokico blues front/rear with the eibach pro kit. 1.1" drop all around.

Thank you in advance.

xtreme 2 · February 2nd, 2012, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by mangogirl205

Sorry forgot to ask. Will I need to replace the ball joints , spring isolators or caster camber plates?

I am doing the Tokico blues front/rear with the eibach pro kit. 1.1" drop all around.

Thank you in advance.

Despite what that guy said, you DON'T need CC Plates unless you plan to alter the vehicles geometry FOR RACING. If you don't plan to race, don't spend the $175 on them. Just go to Eibach and get the Camber Bolts ($35). This is all you need.

Spring Isolators are debatable. If yours are worn out (at 120k they probably are), you can get either factory replacements from ford, or get Poly from BBK.

Ball joints are only needed if yours are worn out. Remove the front wheels and look where the spindle meets the control arm. There is a little joint that is there. If the boot is ripped, you need to replace them.

03stanggg · February 2nd, 2012, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by xtreme 2

Despite what that guy said, you DON'T need CC Plates unless you plan to alter the vehicles geometry FOR RACING. If you don't plan to race, don't spend the $175 on them. Just go to Eibach and get the Camber Bolts ($35). This is all you need.

Without the CC plates I wouldn't be able to get the correct geometry and my tires would wear out super fast. So its not necessarily for racing...

I'm dropped a little lower then he is so he might not need them but I did... just posting my past experience, I wasn't saying he needs them...

WickedSnake00 · February 2nd, 2012, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by 03stanggg

Without the CC plates I wouldn't be able to get the correct geometry and my tires would wear out super fast. So its not necessarily for racing...

I'm dropped a little lower then he is so he might not need them but I did... just posting my past experience, I wasn't saying he needs them...

CC plates depends on how far you drop. If you only go down an inch or so, your stock ones have sufficient adjustment. Mine is down about 2", and my stock CC plates are maxed out at -2deg camber. That's a bit agressive for my tastes, but not unreasonable. I think factory spec is about -1.5deg, so it's not a big deal.

I would not advocate camber bolts. They achieve camber adjustment due to their eccentric shaped center, which greatly reduces the strength of the bolt. CC plates may be a bit more expensive, but they're more robust and they're the correct way. They also allow for caster adjustment which is also needed for extensive lowering.

I'll also throw in my 2 cents on shocks. I'm running the stock Bilsteins that came on Cobras in back, unknown setup in front. The Bilsteins are a very nice unit.

WhiteShadow · February 2nd, 2012, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by WickedSnake00

I'm running the stock Bilsteins that came on Cobras in back, unknown setup in front. The Bilsteins are a very nice unit.

good to know. i plan on getting the bilstein set from AM on all four with springs this summer. will i need CC plates if im dropping 1.5 inches?

WickedSnake00 · February 3rd, 2012, 08:15 AM

I don't think you'll need them per se, but you'll be close to maxed out on the stockers.

dgt_mustang · February 3rd, 2012, 10:09 AM

If lowering to 1.5..i would get them.

WhiteShadow · February 3rd, 2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by dgt_mustang

If lowering to 1.5..i would get them.

yeah i was thinking i would just because i dont like the idea of my stock ones being "maxed out" i guess ill add that to the total. haha

xtreme 2 · February 3rd, 2012, 11:09 AM

Just saying, all my friends with 800 hp GT500s are running camber bolts with no issues. I've had them on my car over a year with no issues...

SlowSix · February 3rd, 2012, 02:21 PM

I'm lowered close to 1.5 inches and don't have CC plates or camber bolts and my alignment is fine. *shrug*

WhiteShadow · February 3rd, 2012, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by SlowSix

I'm lowered close to 1.5 inches and don't have CC plates or camber bolts and my alignment is fine. *shrug*

Originally Posted by xtreme 2

Just saying, all my friends with 800 hp GT500s are running camber bolts with no issues. I've had them on my car over a year with no issues...

i guess ill just have to see how it goes then. i can always return them or order them if needed.

mangogirl205 · February 3rd, 2012, 03:04 PM

Well on American Muscle it says the Eibach pro kit will lower 1.1" all around for the vert.

I do not plan on racing, this is my DD.

Is their anyone else on here that lowered their car just slightly and did not get the cc plates or bolts?

Because I am thinking I wont need them.But want to be sure.

February 1st, 2012, 06:29 PM	#21
mangogirl205 Regular 2001 V6 Mustang Vert. Join Date: May 2011 Location: MD Posts: 266 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sorry forgot to ask. Will I need to replace the ball joints , spring isolators or caster camber plates? I am doing the Tokico blues front/rear with the eibach pro kit. 1.1" drop all around. Thank you in advance. __________________ BBK CAI,K&N FILTER,MAGNAFLOW TRUE DUAL EXHAUST,CUSTOM MID PIPES,TB SPACER,MSD IGNITION,MSD 9MM WIRES,17x10 TSW RIMS,FALKEN TIRES 245/FRONT/255 REAR,MAC HEADERS,3.73 GEARS & T-LOK(need to install) 10000K HIDS,CF SPOILER & VISUAL GOODIES

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WickedSnake00 MM's king of Neon's 404 - car not found 17.81@87 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Diesel Engine Capital of the World, Columbus, IN Posts: 7,376 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't think you'll need them per se, but you'll be close to maxed out on the stockers. __________________ Official Secondhand Snake Build Thread Here Looks Like a Cobra, Sounds Like a Cobra, Tastes Like a Cobra, Not a Cobra. For Sale: P71 Interceptor motor

February 3rd, 2012, 11:09 AM	#29
xtreme 2 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 v6 premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,340 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just saying, all my friends with 800 hp GT500s are running camber bolts with no issues. I've had them on my car over a year with no issues... __________________ Screw it, coming to play with the big boys... 5.4L Vortech COMING SOON!

February 3rd, 2012, 02:21 PM	#30
SlowSix Formerly 01silversixer 2001 V6 15.47@89.57 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,471 iTrader: 1 reviews	I'm lowered close to 1.5 inches and don't have CC plates or camber bolts and my alignment is fine. shrug __________________ Build Thread

February 3rd, 2012, 03:04 PM	#32
mangogirl205 Regular 2001 V6 Mustang Vert. Join Date: May 2011 Location: MD Posts: 266 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well on American Muscle it says the Eibach pro kit will lower 1.1" all around for the vert. I do not plan on racing, this is my DD. Is their anyone else on here that lowered their car just slightly and did not get the cc plates or bolts? Because I am thinking I wont need them.But want to be sure. __________________ BBK CAI,K&N FILTER,MAGNAFLOW TRUE DUAL EXHAUST,CUSTOM MID PIPES,TB SPACER,MSD IGNITION,MSD 9MM WIRES,17x10 TSW RIMS,FALKEN TIRES 245/FRONT/255 REAR,MAC HEADERS,3.73 GEARS & T-LOK(need to install) 10000K HIDS,CF SPOILER & VISUAL GOODIES

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