car wont shift out of park!

WhiteShadow · January 14th, 2012, 12:28 PM

so i was leaving for work, and my car wont shift out of park! did some google magic and im thinking its the brake light relay switch with the brake pedal?

i have a general idea where its located and im sure i can find it, i just need to know if thats what it is, and where i can get a new one.

i recently just put in a led 3rd brakelight. idk if that blew the switch, if so, ill switch back to stock. anyway, i just need confirmation im looking at the right thing.

oh yeah. my brake lights dont work, so thats another thing.

i basically need to know if my local autozone will carry it or i need to waltz in to the dealer.

wraitherx · January 14th, 2012, 12:30 PM

yup, check your switch. its right about the brake pedal. just make sure its plugged in

WhiteShadow · January 14th, 2012, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by wraitherx

yup, check your switch. its right about the brake pedal. just make sure its plugged in

yeah im gonna be checking it here soon.

where can i get a new one?

wraitherx · January 14th, 2012, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteShadow

yeah im gonna be checking it here soon.

where can i get a new one?

They can purchased at any auto parts store

WhiteShadow · January 14th, 2012, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by wraitherx

They can purchased at any auto parts store

cool cool. just wanted to make sure before driving all the way there.

bcaz808 · January 16th, 2012, 02:59 PM

I had the same problem, it ended up being on of the switch wires was cut. Also had a problem with my brake lights not working, people would pull up to me at stop lights saying they weren't working, I'd go stop have my girlfriend press the pedal while I checked them and they were all working fine. This went on for a week until I finally found out that the brake lights would only work when pressed hard. I bent a tab on the switch out and they were back to working fine.

WhiteShadow · January 17th, 2012, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by bcaz808

I had the same problem, it ended up being on of the switch wires was cut. Also had a problem with my brake lights not working, people would pull up to me at stop lights saying they weren't working, I'd go stop have my girlfriend press the pedal while I checked them and they were all working fine. This went on for a week until I finally found out that the brake lights would only work when pressed hard. I bent a tab on the switch out and they were back to working fine.

hmm. my wiring didnt look cut or anything. maybe ill fiddle around with it before buying a new one. or ill buy the new one and see if it changes anything.

i dont want it to randomly not work sometimes, so ill probably just end up buying a new switch. its so weird, this happened right after installing my led 3rd brake light. like the morning after. the night before my car worked fine. huh.

WhiteShadow · January 18th, 2012, 01:15 PM

UPDATE:

Went under my footwell looked at the fuse box, all fuses connected to shift interlock and brake lights are fine, same with electrical distribution box in the engine bay.

to get the car to start i do the whole turn key to on and go to neutrual and start then i can drive.

my driving lights work! so the brake lamps light up, but not when i press the brake pedal they do not go brighter.

i know this is probably the brake light switch like i said before, but i wanted to confirm that if this doesnt have anything to do with my LED third brake light, i dont want to buy more if the problem could be that. even though it was working fine the night before this happened.

WhiteShadow · January 19th, 2012, 02:54 AM

bump bump bump

dgt_mustang · January 19th, 2012, 08:33 AM

follows the wires off of your brake switch till you come to a box, that box could be jacked up if your switch is fine.

dgt_mustang · January 19th, 2012, 08:34 AM

This sounds similiar, read the whole thing
2002 Mustang will not shift out of park (write up in post) - Ford Mustang Forums

Here is another one:
Automatic 01 Mustang GT will not shift out of park | Mustang Forums at StangNet

WhiteShadow · January 19th, 2012, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by dgt_mustang

This sounds similiar, read the whole thing
2002 Mustang will not shift out of park (write up in post) - Ford Mustang Forums

Here is another one:
Automatic 01 Mustang GT will not shift out of park | Mustang Forums at StangNet

haha i found those same threads googleing yesterday. still good though.

im going to check out that box and maybe grab a new one or grab one off a junkyard car to see if thats the problem.

WhiteShadow · January 19th, 2012, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by dgt_mustang

This sounds similiar, read the whole thing
2002 Mustang will not shift out of park (write up in post) - Ford Mustang Forums

Here is another one:
Automatic 01 Mustang GT will not shift out of park | Mustang Forums at StangNet

okay so i tried unplugging the switch, and then i connected the wires to complete the circut thinking that the lights will turn on, but nothing! if i touch the two wires the brake lights SHOULD come on.

so im maybe wrong on the switch? maybe its the junction box? i just cant seem to find where those wires go and which box it is.

xtreme 2 · January 27th, 2012, 11:53 PM

those wires go to the neutral safety switch. When it goes out the car won't let you shift out of park.

the brake light solenoid doesn't affect the interlock, just the brake lights.

The NSS is $40 plus shipping at RockAuto, or $50 picked up at AutoZone.

99 BLUE V6 · January 28th, 2012, 04:53 AM

it may not be related to brake switch. i had this type of problem and it was the shifter handle. came slighty lose,there is a set screw on front side of handle make sure it is seated and the handle is down all the way. its worth looking at.

dgt_mustang · January 28th, 2012, 10:42 AM

^thats possible as well, that actually did happen to me one time, it was my own fault though, installed a shifter and did not tighten it down all the way.

WhiteShadow · January 28th, 2012, 10:48 AM

figured it out. i had changed all the brakelight fuses but they kept blowing for some reason. so the brake light switch was fine. the LED third brake light was shorting out and blowing my fuses to a resoldered new wiring on it and onto the connectors and now it works fine. man those things are made cheap

xtreme 2 · January 30th, 2012, 09:51 AM

TOLD YOU!!!

dgt_mustang · January 30th, 2012, 09:59 AM

i think xtreme wants a cookie...

WhiteShadow · January 30th, 2012, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by xtreme 2

TOLD YOU!!!

yeah. i tried returning it but since it was already installed they wouldnt take it back. and they wanted a shop to check it out and verify that it was what was wrong and i called shops and a diagnostic like that is at least 50 bucks. so stupid. at least i got it working. if it was sitting on a shelf id be pissed.

January 14th, 2012, 12:28 PM	#1
WhiteShadow Enthusiast 2001 Mustang V6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	car wont shift out of park! so i was leaving for work, and my car wont shift out of park! did some google magic and im thinking its the brake light relay switch with the brake pedal? i have a general idea where its located and im sure i can find it, i just need to know if thats what it is, and where i can get a new one. i recently just put in a led 3rd brakelight. idk if that blew the switch, if so, ill switch back to stock. anyway, i just need confirmation im looking at the right thing. oh yeah. my brake lights dont work, so thats another thing. i basically need to know if my local autozone will carry it or i need to waltz in to the dealer. __________________ Whiteshadow build Thread Updated 4/10/2012 Divorced Dual Borla Stinger Exhaust Catback Video

January 14th, 2012, 12:30 PM	#2
wraitherx Moderator '99 SVT Cobra Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 9,568 iTrader: 11 reviews	yup, check your switch. its right about the brake pedal. just make sure its plugged in __________________ BUILD 2 IN PROGRESS

January 18th, 2012, 01:15 PM	#8
WhiteShadow Enthusiast 2001 Mustang V6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	UPDATE: Went under my footwell looked at the fuse box, all fuses connected to shift interlock and brake lights are fine, same with electrical distribution box in the engine bay. to get the car to start i do the whole turn key to on and go to neutrual and start then i can drive. my driving lights work! so the brake lamps light up, but not when i press the brake pedal they do not go brighter. i know this is probably the brake light switch like i said before, but i wanted to confirm that if this doesnt have anything to do with my LED third brake light, i dont want to buy more if the problem could be that. even though it was working fine the night before this happened. __________________ Whiteshadow build Thread Updated 4/10/2012 Divorced Dual Borla Stinger Exhaust Catback Video

January 19th, 2012, 02:54 AM	#9
WhiteShadow Enthusiast 2001 Mustang V6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	bump bump bump __________________ Whiteshadow build Thread Updated 4/10/2012 Divorced Dual Borla Stinger Exhaust Catback Video

January 27th, 2012, 11:53 PM	#14
xtreme 2 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 v6 premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,340 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	those wires go to the neutral safety switch. When it goes out the car won't let you shift out of park. the brake light solenoid doesn't affect the interlock, just the brake lights. The NSS is $40 plus shipping at RockAuto, or $50 picked up at AutoZone. __________________ Screw it, coming to play with the big boys... 5.4L Vortech COMING SOON!

January 16th, 2012, 02:59 PM	#6
bcaz808 Newbie 2004 Mustang V6 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hilo, Hawaii Posts: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	I had the same problem, it ended up being on of the switch wires was cut. Also had a problem with my brake lights not working, people would pull up to me at stop lights saying they weren't working, I'd go stop have my girlfriend press the pedal while I checked them and they were all working fine. This went on for a week until I finally found out that the brake lights would only work when pressed hard. I bent a tab on the switch out and they were back to working fine.

January 28th, 2012, 04:53 AM	#15
99 BLUE V6 Premium Member 99 V6 BASE NEVER RACED THIS ONE Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: PALM BEACH FLORIDA Posts: 1,377 iTrader: 1 reviews	it may not be related to brake switch. i had this type of problem and it was the shifter handle. came slighty lose,there is a set screw on front side of handle make sure it is seated and the handle is down all the way. its worth looking at. __________________

January 28th, 2012, 10:48 AM	#17
WhiteShadow Enthusiast 2001 Mustang V6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	figured it out. i had changed all the brakelight fuses but they kept blowing for some reason. so the brake light switch was fine. the LED third brake light was shorting out and blowing my fuses to a resoldered new wiring on it and onto the connectors and now it works fine. man those things are made cheap __________________ Whiteshadow build Thread Updated 4/10/2012 Divorced Dual Borla Stinger Exhaust Catback Video

January 30th, 2012, 09:51 AM	#18
xtreme 2 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 v6 premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,340 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	TOLD YOU!!! __________________ Screw it, coming to play with the big boys... 5.4L Vortech COMING SOON!

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