289 swap

Mach Stang · January 26th, 2012, 12:40 PM

Ok, I really want to be serious here. As a HS graduation gift, me and my dad may be swapping in a 289 from an older stang. I know that I'll need to bring the transmission, bullet likely the 4 speed (idk the name of it) manual or the T5 manual. Will most likely also swap in the cord 8.8 from a gt.

My question is, is this do able. Since the old carbed 289s have no computer systems, what would have to be done to make this work. Also, would the stock K member still work to mount the engine. And lastly, do I think that the stock suspension can hold the weight. 289s are not the heavy compared to the 3.8.

Help me out here

ESG-642T · January 26th, 2012, 01:38 PM

I'm just curious [and being serious] when I ask... Why?

Mach Stang · January 26th, 2012, 01:47 PM

I've aliased liked the idea of swapping a classic engine into a new car. But no one ever dose a 289, so I wanna try something new

ESG-642T · January 26th, 2012, 01:56 PM

Oh, alright well at least mod it before you do the swap... IF you do it, so your not slower than what you are now.

Mach Stang · January 26th, 2012, 01:59 PM

Lol yeah I would pick up a crate engine with a good cam. I'm not that dumb lol

Blue67coupe · January 26th, 2012, 02:36 PM

With a 4 barrell carb I highly doubt that 289 would be any slower. If I had the funds to do my 347 swap i'd give you my 289

. As for the weight I don't think it would be a problem on the stock suspension but thats really just a guess. Without the computer systems and all going into a car that had them previously i'm guessing your gauge cluster will also have to come out. Would this still be street legal in your area to do this?

Edit: well looking up the weight specs it shows the 3.8 weighs in at about 351lbs and the 289 about 460lbs

GreenMustang00 · January 26th, 2012, 05:16 PM

Put a 9.5 deck motor in there or go home

JTs03v6 · January 26th, 2012, 08:29 PM

Put in a 1.3L 3cyl motor...Switch to beast mode

GreenMustang00 · January 26th, 2012, 09:03 PM

Thought they were 1 litres.. The 4 cylinder is 1.3... That is if we are both talking Geo here

Green_6er · January 26th, 2012, 09:40 PM

i say 302 or 351 swap. more go.

GreenMustang00 · January 26th, 2012, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Green_6er

i say 302 or 351 swap. more go.

Not much of a difference between a 289 and 302 really. You can get a 351w for the same price as most 302s. I would suggest getting one over a 302. Stronger setup, block and etc. If you want to be a real baller, buy that block and a stroker kit can be had for cheap.

Mach Stang · January 26th, 2012, 10:49 PM

True, but I'm not looking for extream power. The 289 would be more of a price of history going into a new car. And @ fastback, this should be ok, as we have no emission testing here. But we have to look into funds first, mainly if we can buy a new crate engine or buy a used rebuilt motor.

WickedSnake00 · January 27th, 2012, 08:42 AM

Umm, what's the inspection/emissions laws like in Ohio? Because with an old carb'd setup you can kiss your OBDII compliance goodbye. Just thought I'd point that out before you dig yourself too deep a hole.

mustangmike! · January 27th, 2012, 08:48 AM

Ive heard of some radical high revving builds with the 289. Haven't seen any yet.

I just wont go w/ anything but roller cam engine and EFI for a DD ... Thats just me though.

But if you dont mind, do it. A 289 would be cheap as hell to find im sure, everyone ditches them for a 302/351.

Mach Stang · January 27th, 2012, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by WickedSnake00

Umm, what's the inspection/emissions laws like in Ohio? Because with an old carb'd setup you can kiss your OBDII compliance goodbye. Just thought I'd point that out before you dig yourself too deep a hole.

Ohio dose not have emission testing. But if anything were to happen, then I'd have to suck it up and convert it to EFI

Originally Posted by mustangmike!

Ive heard of some radical high revving builds with the 289. Haven't seen any yet.

I just wont go w/ anything but roller cam engine and EFI for a DD ... Thats just me though.

But if you dont mind, do it. A 289 would be cheap as hell to find im sure, everyone ditches them for a 302/351.

That's why I'd like to go the route of a 289. There cheap, easy to build, and easy to find. As much as I want the bigger engine like a 351, everyone dose that kind of a swap. I'd like to do some thing different. Besides, it's not that hard to build a 289 to be a 300 - 350hp motor.

mustangmike! · January 27th, 2012, 09:47 AM

Just looking at dealing w/ eletronic vs mechincal parts, PATS, etc etc. Not sure how much of a DD it will turn into.

Mach Stang · January 27th, 2012, 12:07 PM

Yeah I can see what you mean . Though if you take out the computer system, wouldn't that remove the PATS system?

WickedSnake00 · January 27th, 2012, 12:53 PM

You'll also lose lots of other functionality. You might need to wire up all new gauges for the dash, and who knows if your CCRM will function properly. It might be more effort than you think.

mustangmike! · January 27th, 2012, 02:12 PM

Now if you want to F it and make a race car

go for it

GreenMustang00 · January 27th, 2012, 05:22 PM

Wire a fan to switch for the radiator. Then use an inline pump. Bye ccrm dont need it anymore.
Gauges will be an easy setup. Brand new from autometer your probably be at 350+ dollars on them.

To they everybody does the 351 swap..
There is a madness behind it for a reason. Want to be a baller, do a 427w swap.

I bought mine as a non-roller motor plan to throw in a basic 351w. Well I got caught up in the mod bug, now I have my stock block holding me back from real power lol.

Like I said, a 289 is basically a 302. The deck height and stroke difference is minimal from what I hear(dont hear much of people using 289s).

January 26th, 2012, 01:38 PM	#2
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January 26th, 2012, 01:56 PM	#4
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,319 iTrader: 0 reviews	Oh, alright well at least mod it before you do the swap... IF you do it, so your not slower than what you are now. __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

January 26th, 2012, 02:36 PM	#6
Blue67coupe Hardcore Enthusiast 1967 Mustang 2003 Roush Stage 2 #8576 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 1,896 iTrader: 0 reviews	With a 4 barrell carb I highly doubt that 289 would be any slower. If I had the funds to do my 347 swap i'd give you my 289 . As for the weight I don't think it would be a problem on the stock suspension but thats really just a guess. Without the computer systems and all going into a car that had them previously i'm guessing your gauge cluster will also have to come out. Would this still be street legal in your area to do this? Edit: well looking up the weight specs it shows the 3.8 weighs in at about 351lbs and the 289 about 460lbs __________________ ./_ _ _ ___ __\. (]]]_ _ o _ _[[[) \|\_o_ __ __o_/\| \|__\|..........\|__\|

January 26th, 2012, 05:16 PM	#7
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	Put a 9.5 deck motor in there or go home __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

January 26th, 2012, 08:29 PM	#8
JTs03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 mustang 7.48x1.56=11.67 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,318 iTrader: 0 reviews	Put in a 1.3L 3cyl motor...Switch to beast mode __________________ New combo: Forged SC short Block,280cfm heads, Precision 6262 turbo, cx 31x12x3 fmic http://photobucket.com/JTsTurboBuild http://youtube.com/user/JTsStang

January 26th, 2012, 09:03 PM	#9
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	Thought they were 1 litres.. The 4 cylinder is 1.3... That is if we are both talking Geo here __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

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WickedSnake00 MM's king of Neon's 404 - car not found 17.81@87 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Diesel Engine Capital of the World, Columbus, IN Posts: 7,376 iTrader: 0 reviews	Umm, what's the inspection/emissions laws like in Ohio? Because with an old carb'd setup you can kiss your OBDII compliance goodbye. Just thought I'd point that out before you dig yourself too deep a hole. __________________ Official Secondhand Snake Build Thread Here Looks Like a Cobra, Sounds Like a Cobra, Tastes Like a Cobra, Not a Cobra. For Sale: P71 Interceptor motor

January 27th, 2012, 08:48 AM	#14
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	Ive heard of some radical high revving builds with the 289. Haven't seen any yet. I just wont go w/ anything but roller cam engine and EFI for a DD ... Thats just me though. But if you dont mind, do it. A 289 would be cheap as hell to find im sure, everyone ditches them for a 302/351. __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

January 27th, 2012, 09:47 AM	#16
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	Just looking at dealing w/ eletronic vs mechincal parts, PATS, etc etc. Not sure how much of a DD it will turn into. __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

January 27th, 2012, 12:53 PM	#18
WickedSnake00 MM's king of Neon's 404 - car not found 17.81@87 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Diesel Engine Capital of the World, Columbus, IN Posts: 7,376 iTrader: 0 reviews	You'll also lose lots of other functionality. You might need to wire up all new gauges for the dash, and who knows if your CCRM will function properly. It might be more effort than you think. __________________ Official Secondhand Snake Build Thread Here Looks Like a Cobra, Sounds Like a Cobra, Tastes Like a Cobra, Not a Cobra. For Sale: P71 Interceptor motor

January 27th, 2012, 02:12 PM	#19
mustangmike! I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2004,1994,1967 14.37 @ 96 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 6,018 iTrader: 1 reviews	Now if you want to F it and make a race car go for it __________________ 227whp N/A V6 Now w/ 8th Mile 8s ! How To Jmod Your Late Model 4R70W

January 27th, 2012, 05:22 PM	#20
GreenMustang00 1 Wheel Peel 2000 Mustang 393w 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,583 iTrader: 4 reviews	Wire a fan to switch for the radiator. Then use an inline pump. Bye ccrm dont need it anymore. Gauges will be an easy setup. Brand new from autometer your probably be at 350+ dollars on them. To they everybody does the 351 swap.. There is a madness behind it for a reason. Want to be a baller, do a 427w swap. I bought mine as a non-roller motor plan to throw in a basic 351w. Well I got caught up in the mod bug, now I have my stock block holding me back from real power lol. Like I said, a 289 is basically a 302. The deck height and stroke difference is minimal from what I hear(dont hear much of people using 289s). __________________ 2000 393w Swapped Vert 2001 GT Vert 2002 Six Banger

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