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Old June 17th, 2007, 03:12 AM   #21
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invent an air + water to air duh... lol
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Air vs Water
Accessible Technologies manufactures both air-to-air and air-to-water intercooler systems, and the guidelines for their usage are fairly straightforward.

For automotive street applications, air-to-air technology is easy to install, highly effective, extremely reliable since it has no moving parts, and requires no maintenance. Air-to-water intercooler systems, on the other hand, are much more difficult to install as they contain an intercooler, a separate radiator to cool the water, a water tank, and a pump. But probably the biggest drawback to air-to-water on the street is that this technology requires the addition of ice to match the efficiency of air-to-air technology. Additionally, the requirement of ice and the possibility of pump failure or leakage means that air-to-water is also inherently less reliable.

For race-only applications, air-to-water works well since the need to add ice at the track prior to each run is not a big drawback. The other issues are the same as listed above for street applications, and efficiency will be comparable with the use of ice.

For marine applications, air-to-water is the preferred technology, for three primary reasons. First, the installation of a pump and radiator are no longer required (the lake or ocean is the radiator, and boats already have a water pickup/pump). Second, ice is not required, given the availability of massive amounts of cool lake or ocean water into which heat can be transferred. And finally, since boat engines are typically situated in the rear rather than in the front (like most automobiles), it would be very difficult to find adequate airflow for an air-to-air intercooler in the back of the boat.
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its procharger they will say what they need for their product.....now vortech using a air/ water will say different
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Originally Posted by 02ponypackage
its procharger they will say what they need for their product.....now vortech using a air/ water will say different
Procharger uses aftercoolers also....
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Also just so you know runnign an intercooler does not give you more power...

It keeps the intake charge cooler so the IAT Sensor will not tell the computer to pull timing...Thus helping you keep all your power for longer...Also it helps you keep from detonating as well...Which will also give you the option to run more timing in your set-up...

Its simple...

If you can handle getting out of your car at every stoplight then the Air to Water will out perform the air to air...The air to water will out perform the air to air just as long as their is ice in the box to keep the charge cool...Once that ice runs out it is game over and the air to air will take it...

Its not that hard to comprehend...Plain and simple...Just read the text...
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Also just so you know runnign an intercooler does not give you more power...

It keeps the intake charge cooler so the IAT Sensor will not tell the computer to pull timing...Thus helping you keep all your power for longer...Also it helps you keep from detonating as well...Which will also give you the option to run more timing in your set-up...

Its simple...

If you can handle getting out of your car at every stoplight then the Air to Water will out perform the air to air...The air to water will out perform the air to air just as long as their is ice in the box to keep the charge cool...Once that ice runs out it is game over and the air to air will take it...

Its not that hard to comprehend...Plain and simple...Just read the text...
Yes, right not give you more but allow you to run more timing safely @ the same boost / more boos blah blah... anyway

Somebody knows whats going on
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Originally Posted by BWAL09
when i do a cannonball into the swimming pool, i go from air to water.
same thing happens when i do it
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im just thinking couldnt you use dry ice, being that its colder. hmm you could probly use it in an air-air setup because it doesnt leave condesation.
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You could plumb a larger water reservoir to the backseat area making it easier to fill with ice for street use. And if you made it big enough with a large lid, it would be a great place to keep tasty beverages.
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this probably sounds really dumb but if u just through in some ice into the water u get lil gains?
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Originally Posted by Santaniello3blkstang
this probably sounds really dumb but if u just through in some ice into the water u get lil gains?
If your using a air to air intercooler to intercool your intake charge then yes putting ice in the water would keep your intake charge cooler so you could run more boost...

We are talking about supercharged applications...
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o ok lol just wondering
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Re: so about that Air to Water debate with SSStang


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he who says its not good for daily driving and all that non sense...w/e anyways....my buddys cobra made 530rwhp with regular warm coolant when dynoed...he took 20min and some ice from the fridge and drained his coolant and put some cups of ice along with water and 25%coolant then got the rollers going for 600rwhp....though this is just a short term gain until it warms up again but when u go to run at the track or on the street....just before ur ready do that and your good to go....straight rape a bitch lol
Hmm, I honestly don't know what this is supposed to be about / for?

But I will repeat this for you again,
Air-to-Water: On The Track > Air-to-Air
Air-to-Air: On The Street > Air-to-water



Of course any time you can throw ICE & watter wetter, and whatever else into the tank to get cooler intake temperatures your going to see better gains. But once it warms up air-2-air > you. Plus you can't really get an accurate dyno with an air-to-air intercooler since I doubt that any fan can match you doing 55mph on an open road. (maybe a wind tunnel but who has a dyno in a wind tunnel)?
i'm so freaking with SS i doubt some1 will use a.w for street like hey its a bitch putting ice every 5 min of hard driving

track a.w wins cause hey its track u got time to put ice

streets a.a owns
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yeah lol

but then is fun reading the figths
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haha, yea. people are just drawn to animosity. they love seeing it, or in this case, reading it.
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i say you get a refrigerator and set it in you back set have it make ice... you get out run that shit to your hood where you cut a hole in it for easy quick fill up on the street and roll like that...

or i think that i could invent an air/ water to air... if you want... just get an inter cooler up front and have the top of it up inside the front bumper so its covered and the bottom down below so it gets fresh air... have the air pumped in like a normal intercooler and then have the top part sectioned off like and aftercooler and the bottom like and intercooler... duh
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