[Sam'sWildStang]

hey guys, i have to be able to beat a guys '05 v6 auto mustang. he might get exhaust between now and then too. i need to know if my '00 manual v6 w/ cai, stock gt rims (17x8) /giving more traction from a dig''. im sure it'll be close now seeing ill get the jump and he'll follow up strong. anyway, i figure for price 4.10s are the way to go. i just need some opinions if the gears will put the 05 v6 to rest. any suggestions welcome

[AtlanticBlue99]

yes. and get a t lok. my 4.10s and tlok shaved .5 off my e/t. that is a lot for any single mod too!

btw, .5 off the e/t is similar to adding 50hp. the gearing really helps right out of the hole the most, especially the 0-60. i cut a 2.1x 60' now on drag radials in an auto...

[Sam'sWildStang]

thanks blue. thats all i needed to hear, those will be my next mods. 4.10s : 150$, t-lok : 190$, beating a car that cost twice as much and a driver who is a jackwhole, priceless

[myPONYisHARD]

get 3.73's

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by myPONYisHARD get 3.73's

what gears are you running? i know everyone says 4.10s for the auto, 3.73s for the stick, but i wish frpp made 4.30s for the 7.5" rear- i sure as hell could use more acceleration. i never spin my drag radials unless brake standing.

[ESG-642T]

SSM even recommends 3.73 for a manual.

Is the v6 your racing 5speed(stick) ?

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by SSStang SSM even recommends 3.73 for a manual. Is the v6 your racing 5speed(stick) ?

who is ssm? (supersix motorsports? ssms) i have seen 5-speeds with 4.10s and guys wishing they went 4.30s. hell, ask joe (site owner) who had 4.10s and wanted more with a power adder in his 5-speed gt).

those without gear swaps of their own shouldn't really comment, and like i said, 4.10s werent even enough gear for me imo. i trap in 3rd gear at 4500 rpms. i redline at 6k rpms. the ideal gear would put me at 6k rpms at the line or right after, but frpp doesnt make that gear combo for the 7.5" rear end.

he wants it to be fast, and even so, the fuel economy is not bad. i have full bolt ons and 4.10s and still get 20+ mpg mixed city and highway...

so why 3.73s? other than "so-and-so said so"

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 Originally Posted by SSStang SSM even recommends 3.73 for a manual. Is the v6 your racing 5speed(stick) ? who is ssm? (supersix motorsports? ssms) i have seen 5-speeds with 4.10s and guys wishing they went 4.30s. hell, ask joe (site owner) who had 4.10s and wanted more with a power adder in his 5-speed gt). those without gear swaps of their own shouldn't really comment, and like i said, 4.10s werent even enough gear for me imo. i trap in 3rd gear at 4500 rpms. i redline at 6k rpms. the ideal gear would put me at 6k rpms at the line or right after, but frpp doesnt make that gear combo for the 7.5" rear end. he wants it to be fast, and even so, the fuel economy is not bad. i have full bolt ons and 4.10s and still get 20+ mpg mixed city and highway... so why 3.73s? other than "so-and-so said so"

Well I guess I can continue to comment then, 4.30 may get you more power but how practical do you think a 4.30gear would be on the street?

[scubasteve041186]

meh i said screw you guys and i'm getting 4.10's for my manual haha.. i'll learn my lesson when i have them.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 Originally Posted by SSStang SSM even recommends 3.73 for a manual. Is the v6 your racing 5speed(stick) ? who is ssm? (supersix motorsports? ssms) i have seen 5-speeds with 4.10s and guys wishing they went 4.30s. hell, ask joe (site owner) who had 4.10s and wanted more with a power adder in his 5-speed gt). those without gear swaps of their own shouldn't really comment, and like i said, 4.10s werent even enough gear for me imo. i trap in 3rd gear at 4500 rpms. i redline at 6k rpms. the ideal gear would put me at 6k rpms at the line or right after, but frpp doesnt make that gear combo for the 7.5" rear end. he wants it to be fast, and even so, the fuel economy is not bad. i have full bolt ons and 4.10s and still get 20+ mpg mixed city and highway... so why 3.73s? other than "so-and-so said so"

Btw: thought we were talking about v6's

[El_Cangri]

they only recomend 3.73s to manual if ur not a good shifter cause first is like 18 mph but if ur a good shifter go for 4.10s beside it will take u a few days to adapt to em...

[02ponypackage]

4.10s arent as bad as people think...and exaggerate when it comes to daily driving....what about 3.55s people dont talk much about them but they can do a lot better then our stock gears...when doing a rear end swap with them in there coming from a Cobra ,Mach1, or Bullitt stock or getin 3.73s...unless u have some kinda posi having 17x8s isnt doing much with one wheel...my car with no posi and 17x9s with a good tires spins up to 3rd when slamming on the gears at the track....add more weight then traction

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by SSStang Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 Originally Posted by SSStang SSM even recommends 3.73 for a manual. Is the v6 your racing 5speed(stick) ? who is ssm? (supersix motorsports? ssms) i have seen 5-speeds with 4.10s and guys wishing they went 4.30s. hell, ask joe (site owner) who had 4.10s and wanted more with a power adder in his 5-speed gt). those without gear swaps of their own shouldn't really comment, and like i said, 4.10s werent even enough gear for me imo. i trap in 3rd gear at 4500 rpms. i redline at 6k rpms. the ideal gear would put me at 6k rpms at the line or right after, but frpp doesnt make that gear combo for the 7.5" rear end. he wants it to be fast, and even so, the fuel economy is not bad. i have full bolt ons and 4.10s and still get 20+ mpg mixed city and highway... so why 3.73s? other than "so-and-so said so" Btw: thought we were talking about v6's

btw: i have a v6 with 4.10s and could use more. i know the difference b/w pushrod and modular- the article you quoted in the PM was written by me over a year ago...

[itschristorres8]

4.30s on the street are rediculous for manual
some people that DONT HAVE a 5speed i guess should set out qoutes for those who if thats the case huh AB?

i drove in a 5speed 97GT with bolt ons and 4.10s...first gear was a heart beat and extremely annoying i felt it to be a waste the guy that owned the car is selling the 4.10s or he did already and got 3.73s

4.30s are nice for an auto ont he track....

its different wen u have to shift in the street 3 times before you hit 40

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 4.30s on the street are rediculous for manual some people that DONT HAVE a 5speed i guess should set out qoutes for those who if thats the case huh AB? i drove in a 5speed 97GT with bolt ons and 4.10s...first gear was a heart beat and extremely annoying i felt it to be a waste the guy that owned the car is selling the 4.10s or he did already and got 3.73s 4.30s are nice for an auto ont he track.... its different wen u have to shift in the street 3 times before you hit 40

but a 97 gt is not a pushrod like the essex motors. mod motors rev higher than the pushrods and make power more in the upper rpms.

and i suggested 4.10 for manual, 4.30 for auto, but in the 8.8 rear since nobody makes 4.30:1 for the 7.5.

take my opinion as that- an opinion backed with experience of what i am talking about. there is no hear-say coming in my posts.

[Onemanzu]

i have been one for 4.10's as well ... with my 5 speed... i just don't have the money... sad

[itschristorres8]

have you driven a 5speed with 4.10s

my first gear with stock gears is about 3seconds
2nd gear is the only one kinda long at the 1/8mile
i would say 4.10s on a bolt on 5speed is as far as i'd go
s/c'd or turbo especialy turbo i wouldnt get 4.10s at all



has anyone seen greenfaleen i havent seen him since that spark plug post

[El_Cangri]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 have you driven a 5speed with 4.10s my first gear with stock gears is about 3seconds 2nd gear is the only one kinda long at the 1/8mile i would say 4.10s on a bolt on 5speed is as far as i'd go s/c'd or turbo especialy turbo i wouldnt get 4.10s at all has anyone seen greenfaleen i havent seen him since that spark plug post

lol the one about saying i dont remember.... he said that we come stock with platinum plugs or something lol?

4.10s with bolt on car sux!!!

i hate shifting so much in very short times

3.73s or 3.55s thats what i would put on a turboed or s/c car

[V6boi]

IMO .. with a v6 , and bolt ons, i say 4.10's , why cause i have them and love them. oohh noo u gotta shift 3 times at 40 its not a big deal, ur gonna get in 5th one way or another.

Manual v6 ( bolt ons) = 4.10s / Auto gets 4.10+

Manual / Auto v6 ( forced induction) = 3.73 or 3.53's

I have both posi and 4.10's i say go for 4.10's AB has alot of exp. on the matter .. street and track i just have street .. and my opinion is the same

[02ponypackage]

4.10s on cars that can shift higher makes sense....on a cobra shifting at 6500 yeah but just 3.73s should be fine