[JASonic]

Does the temperature under the hood ever get over 300 degrees? Im not talking about the block or right on the manifold either. Just the temperature of the air under the hood?

[WLJohnson05]

i dont think so, why u ask

[JASonic]

Im trying to reduce engine heat being sucked into my FIPK. Long story. Anyway, I thermal wrapped it and I have some metal tape Im going to use to reflect any radiant heat. The tapes rated to 300. Just want to make sure.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by ja002gl Im trying to reduce engine heat being sucked into my FIPK. Long story. Anyway, I thermal wrapped it and I have some metal tape Im going to use to reflect any radiant heat. The tapes rated to 300. Just want to make sure.

what are you wrapping exactly? for all the money your spending on heat wrap, metal tape, junk, you could have bought an Ebay Finder well intake!

[JASonic]

I already had the tape. Thermal wrap was $25. I used the wrap to cover the tube and the box/shroud. I'll use any wrap left over to cover plug wires and fuel lines.

Even with a fenderwell intake, I still have the problem of underhood heat cooking the intake tube. Whats the sense of pulling in 90 degree outside air to a pipe thats heated in a 200 degree furnace?

Also, the FIPK box was getting real warm. There's a radiator tube that brushes right against it. Ive already noticed a tremendous decrease in that box temp by insulating it from the engine air.

Its still cheaper than a whole new setup. Also, I have faith in the FIPK that if its done right it can be better than average.

[Juggalo_X]

sounds intriguing keep us posted bro!

[ESG-642T]

Simple:

the cool air from the fender well is moving so fast it doesn't have time to heat up..... the air your pulling now from your UBER HOT engine bay is already heated.

And i don't know about you but I can drive my car 2hours in tx heat and stop and touch my bbk cai and not burn my hand.

[JASonic]

Well, I wouldnt say it burnt my hand but its warmer than it should be IMO. Im simply trying to cut down on the heat to see if it solves the occasional hesitation problem.

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by SSStang Simple: the cool air from the fender well is moving so fast it doesn't have time to heat up..... the air your pulling now from your UBER HOT engine bay is already heated. And i don't know about you but I can drive my car 2hours in tx heat and stop and touch my bbk cai and not burn my hand.

even thought the air moves fast it still will gather a bit of heat sss, after all laws of physics states that life is all about a transfer of energy be it heat sound or HP.

[thisisme]

Originally Posted by SSStang Simple: the cool air from the fender well is moving so fast it doesn't have time to heat up..... the air your pulling now from your UBER HOT engine bay is already heated. And i don't know about you but I can drive my car 2hours in tx heat and stop and touch my bbk cai and not burn my hand.

So, you prolly think that if a bowling ball and a marble were dropped from the same height, the bowling ball would hit the ground first, right? Kid, you are sadly misinformed. I've been watching people on this site for about 6 months now. And you sir, have NO idea what your talking about. You get lucky on some stuff, but mainly, your an idiot.If you have 80 degree air outside and your engine bay temp is 200 degrees, the air from outside is going to hit the intake at about 140-150 degrees. It's simple physics.

..o and for the record, itschristorres08 knows a hell of a lot more about Mustang than you ever will...

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by thisisme Originally Posted by SSStang Simple: the cool air from the fender well is moving so fast it doesn't have time to heat up..... the air your pulling now from your UBER HOT engine bay is already heated. And i don't know about you but I can drive my car 2hours in tx heat and stop and touch my bbk cai and not burn my hand. So, you prolly think that if a bowling ball and a marble were dropped from the same height, the bowling ball would hit the ground first, right? Kid, you are sadly misinformed. I've been watching people on this site for about 6 months now. And you sir, have NO idea what your talking about. You get lucky on some stuff, but mainly, your an idiot.If you have 80 degree air outside and your engine bay temp is 200 degrees, the air from outside is going to hit the intake at about 140-150 degrees. It's simple physics. ..o and for the record, itschristorres08 knows a hell of a lot more about Mustang than you ever will...

+1 i like you dude it is physics which he has no clue about i can also say that the bowling ball and marble will fall at the same rate of speed and hit at the same moment IF dropped at the exact same time its called gravity also has to do with the laws of physics. Acceleration of gravity is approximately 10 m/s/s on Earth. just to help you prove a point. wow look the second person here to get tired of SSS's verbal diarrhea. SSS plz if you dont know research then answer its not about who answerers first its about who answeres correctly stop striking ppls ideas and comments down cuz your ignorant opinions or facts. some times u do give good info but lately ive been getting tired of you and I KNOW of some good guys here who i still chat with who have left cuz you cannot keep your mouth shut they got tired of the bullshit.

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by thisisme Originally Posted by SSStang Simple: the cool air from the fender well is moving so fast it doesn't have time to heat up..... the air your pulling now from your UBER HOT engine bay is already heated. And i don't know about you but I can drive my car 2hours in tx heat and stop and touch my bbk cai and not burn my hand. So, you prolly think that if a bowling ball and a marble were dropped from the same height, the bowling ball would hit the ground first, right? Kid, you are sadly misinformed. I've been watching people on this site for about 6 months now. And you sir, have NO idea what your talking about. You get lucky on some stuff, but mainly, your an idiot.If you have 80 degree air outside and your engine bay temp is 200 degrees, the air from outside is going to hit the intake at about 140-150 degrees. It's simple physics. ..o and for the record, itschristorres08 knows a hell of a lot more about Mustang than you ever will...

itschristorres08 is a good guy but WE ALL have our ignorant moments my self included. but atleats with itschristorres08 he researches his shit dont make fun of ppl for ideas or tell them they are stupid wasted money blah blahblah

[JASonic]

Well, I have to say this. Its working. Simple as that. Ive been driving it for a few days with everything wrapped well. I applied the thermal wrap and then sprayed it all with a good coat of Silicon Spray. I used a torch to "set" the silicon because it said on the can to heat it to above 400 degrees. After I did that I covered all the thermal wrap in reflective tape rated to 300 degrees.

It may be over doing it. But, no matter what the facts are to this, I had fun doing it. It was cheaper than taking out the FIPK ( which I already spent $200+ on) and buying a new one. Only the expensive intakes claim any kind of insulation. Ive seen some newer designs that have heat resistant boxes. I just cant afford another big investment right now.

So I still have not had any hesitation like before. I know the intake air is cooler now than before. It could be "coincedence" that the hesitation has stopped. In any case, I feel no loss of power in city driving like before... even with the A/C running hard ( well, no extra loss from running it).

In all seriousness, I still may find a new hood. I would like to be able to vent the engine heat out better. I will "backyard" engineer alot of things but Im not about to cut holes in the hood to increase circulation.

I really like to think things through and I appreciate good facts. Bad or good, thats the beauty of this site. I dont mind getting ripped on for crazy ideas. But more so, I like good facts to maybe help a mediocre idea become a good one.

I cant really say anything else about this except its solving my problem.

[JASonic]

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X sounds intriguing keep us posted bro!

Jug- Thanks for being cool. I use this site to get ideas. I appreciate getting riped on when I say stupid shit or do something dumb. You know, if im doing something thats going to put me or my car in danger, I trust you and certain other people around here's advice. I dont see anything to hurt by wrapping my crap up. Thanks for not making me feel like a moron for trying to solve a problem. I got a lot of respect for that...

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by ja002gl Well, I have to say this. Its working. Simple as that. Ive been driving it for a few days with everything wrapped well. I applied the thermal wrap and then sprayed it all with a good coat of Silicon Spray. I used a torch to "set" the silicon because it said on the can to heat it to above 400 degrees. After I did that I covered all the thermal wrap in reflective tape rated to 300 degrees. It may be over doing it. But, no matter what the facts are to this, I had fun doing it. It was cheaper than taking out the FIPK ( which I already spent $200+ on) and buying a new one. Only the expensive intakes claim any kind of insulation. Ive seen some newer designs that have heat resistant boxes. I just cant afford another big investment right now. So I still have not had any hesitation like before. I know the intake air is cooler now than before. It could be "coincedence" that the hesitation has stopped. In any case, I feel no loss of power in city driving like before... even with the A/C running hard ( well, no extra loss from running it). In all seriousness, I still may find a new hood. I would like to be able to vent the engine heat out better. I will "backyard" engineer alot of things but Im not about to cut holes in the hood to increase circulation. I really like to think things through and I appreciate good facts. Bad or good, thats the beauty of this site. I dont mind getting ripped on for crazy ideas. But more so, I like good facts to maybe help a mediocre idea become a good one. I cant really say anything else about this except its solving my problem.

glad to hear it heat is the #1 cause of hp loss and engine sluggishness and performance loss its proof in the pudding that it has an effect i knew it would :wink

[Murderjetz]

nice, man...
would you have pictures of your engine? i'm curious to see how all of this looks, exactly what you did to it.
I've never noticed any slugishness from heat with my car, but I'm sure it's not as hot in Canada as it is Florida. still, it's supposed to go up to 100 degrees farenheit this weekend...so i guess i will see then if my car goes sluggish.


I have a question, what's a "FIPK"??

[JASonic]

Originally Posted by Murderjetz nice, man... would you have pictures of your engine? i'm curious to see how all of this looks, exactly what you did to it. I've never noticed any slugishness from heat with my car, but I'm sure it's not as hot in Canada as it is Florida. still, it's supposed to go up to 100 degrees farenheit this weekend...so i guess i will see then if my car goes sluggish. I have a question, what's a "FIPK"??

Pics soon. An FIPK is an intake system from K&N. It has a monster sized cone filter on the end. The only drawback to it is that ( if installed by their instructions and left alone) it draws engine bay heated air rather than cool fender air like a fenderwell CAI. Part of my goofing off with this is to seal the box off better so that it draws only fenderwell air. You see, the filter sits basically where the old stock filter sits BUT its not sealed off and enclosed to the fender the way the stock one is. I took the silencer out of the wall to encourage as much air from the fender as possible and keep engine air out. The pic below is an FIPK. It stands for Fuel Injection Performance Kit. The best feature to me is the massive amount of air it lets in at any temperature and the fact that the tube is big and straight keeping the air moving at its best velocity.

[ESG-642T]

Curious question:

without seeing any pics i'll take a guess....

Isn't "wrapping" this box restricting your amount of air flow to your FIPK?

[JASonic]

No. The box becomes "airtight" under basic installation. There's a seal that runs along the top of the box ( in the picture above, youre actually seeing a top view). That seal sits tight against the hood when you close it.

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by ja002gl No. The box becomes "airtight" under basic installation. There's a seal that runs along the top of the box ( in the picture above, youre actually seeing a top view). That seal sits tight against the hood when you close it.

thus making it a fender well CAI with your modification.