[SSStang]

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by SSStang Just to let all you guys know who are looking for tuners SCT > SNIPER Call any mustang shop and ask them what they recommend, you might find ONE or two shops that are gonna say Sniper. Everybody says SCT for mustangs. As for beating an IROC unless its in mint condition with less than 50k miles on the speedo you should beat it with no problems. Never seen a HIGH 13second[stock] IROC in my life Edit: It only has: 240hp so then if most places sold Chevy instead of ford would that make them chevy better? your logic is illogical. that being said you need understand why sniper is the better choice. so i will explain yet again. and lastly SCT is sniper with less options for the end user and a different name Sniper MADE SCT! SCT BOUGHT THERE SOFTWARE AND ALL THERE SHIT FROM SNIPER. Sniper was the industry first. I dont know about you but im sticking with the company thats is making the innovation. not the one who buys it. Both are good tuners but sniper give you more options. if i bought a sct id still say sniper is better. whats wit the sct boner you in there pocket? I like sniper better cuz fact to fact they have more for your money option wise you like sct cuz every one els does or you have an sct boner or you are in there pocket you chose what u like to explain your self with.

Me and Chris have been through this before: sct dyno numbers > sniper /end

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by SSStang Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by SSStang Just to let all you guys know who are looking for tuners SCT > SNIPER Call any mustang shop and ask them what they recommend, you might find ONE or two shops that are gonna say Sniper. Everybody says SCT for mustangs. As for beating an IROC unless its in mint condition with less than 50k miles on the speedo you should beat it with no problems. Never seen a HIGH 13second[stock] IROC in my life Edit: It only has: 240hp so then if most places sold Chevy instead of ford would that make them chevy better? your logic is illogical. that being said you need understand why sniper is the better choice. so i will explain yet again. and lastly SCT is sniper with less options for the end user and a different name Sniper MADE SCT! SCT BOUGHT THERE SOFTWARE AND ALL THERE SHIT FROM SNIPER. Sniper was the industry first. I dont know about you but im sticking with the company thats is making the innovation. not the one who buys it. Both are good tuners but sniper give you more options. if i bought a sct id still say sniper is better. whats wit the sct boner you in there pocket? I like sniper better cuz fact to fact they have more for your money option wise you like sct cuz every one els does or you have an sct boner or you are in there pocket you chose what u like to explain your self with. Me and Chris have been through this before: sct dyno numbers > sniper /end

thats true but only cuz sct offers a cheaper solution for the end user and dealer dont mean its better by any means

[Mustangfan99]

seems to me like more options over time would lead to more power over time.

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 seems to me like more options over time would lead to more power over time.

yes thats correct leaves a broader range of possibilities and abilities when your modding.

[HMUSN]

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 seems to me like more options over time would lead to more power over time. yes thats correct leaves a broader range of possibilities and abilities when your modding.

sure.. WHEN you know how to tune your car :wink

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by HMUSN Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 seems to me like more options over time would lead to more power over time. yes thats correct leaves a broader range of possibilities and abilities when your modding. sure.. WHEN you know how to tune your car :wink

yes lol ofcouse that is a factor :wink

[thisisme]

Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 Yeha, thanks guys, My car is coming along, thanks for the imput, what type of tune do you reccomend? Here is my build plan, 1. 3:73 gears 2. engine tune (not sure what type) 3. UD pulleys 4. true dual pipes, gt take off catback, custom H pipe 5. CAI 6. K&n air filter 7. 8.8 T-Lock 8. Mac long tube headers Thats it for what I have planed now, much more planned for the future.

Its pointless to get the headers and an H pipe. With the v6 engine, it is even firing unfortunately. With even firing engines, headers and custom intermediate pipes (h and x), don't add anything as far as horsepower goes.

[Onemanzu]

if the car hasn't been rebuilt or loved since it was built then 4.10's and exhaust should be pretty much all you need... don't you think

you have what like 15 years on him... his car is older and their fore really worn out...

well thats my thinking anyways...

[Mustangfan99]

Originally Posted by Onemanzu if the car hasn't been rebuilt or loved since it was built then 4.10's and exhaust should be pretty much all you need... don't you think you have what like 15 years on him... his car is older and their fore really worn out... well thats my thinking anyways...

I think it is gonna take some more mods than that to beat one of those guys cars, but they are getting old, no doubt. as for the comment on headers, yes they do add more power, by your logic the stock exhaust sysem is as good as true duals on a six. Headers do add power, and help make more when future mods are added.

[SSStang]

89 iroc-z = almost no challenge!!!!!

headers = gains

exhaust = gains

crossover = really not needed

[Mustangfan99]

yeha there is no doubt that headers give you power, better flow= more power.
Btw check this shit out, I found this third gen site, post is imilar to mine only in the Iroc's stand point totaly different point of view.
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/th...s-mustang.html

[Mustangfan99]

stupid dicks

[thisisme]

Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 yeha there is no doubt that headers give you power, better flow= more power. Btw check this shit out, I found this third gen site, post is imilar to mine only in the Iroc's stand point totaly different point of view. http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/th...s-mustang.html

No. Headers and custom intermediate pipes do NOT give even firing engine more power. They dont even really free up the exhaust gasses. The Mustang comes stock with headers...and yes, they are headers, not manifolds. It really doesnt make a difference man. Believe me, iv been doing this a very long time. YOu tend to learn a lot from trial and error.

[Mustangfan99]

Originally Posted by thisisme Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 yeha there is no doubt that headers give you power, better flow= more power. Btw check this shit out, I found this third gen site, post is imilar to mine only in the Iroc's stand point totaly different point of view. http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/th...s-mustang.html No. Headers and custom intermediate pipes do NOT give even firing engine more power. They dont even really free up the exhaust gasses. The Mustang comes stock with headers...and yes, they are headers, not manifolds. It really doesnt make a difference man. Believe me, iv been doing this a very long time. YOu tend to learn a lot from trial and error.

do a little reserch, aftermarket headers and a mid pipe will free up a good amout of horse, that is the most noob comment ever. plese if you do not know much about cars dont spout false info, ever notice that almost every body wants mac long tube headers, its not just for show pal.

[thisisme]

Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 do a little reserch, aftermarket headers and a mid pipe will free up a good amout of horse, that is the most noob comment ever. plese if you do not know much about cars dont spout false info, ever notice that almost every body wants mac long tube headers, its not just for show pal.

Ok buddy. Think what you want. But, you are wrong. Headers do NOT add power. Period. MAYBE an x pipe will add like 2 hp. But, nothing more. Don't say i post false information. Because, kid, you are sadly misinformed. Iv been doing this before you were an itch in your daddies pants. And everybody wants MAC long tube headers because thats what been pounded into their heads. They think that its going to do something for them, but its not. Other misinformed people (like you) tell them to get them because they think that they add power, and they dont. You are the one who needs to do research before you post shit. Not me. If I dont know the answer, I will not post.


EDIT: To add. Headers only add a good amount of horse on ODD firing enignes. Not EVEN firing engines.

[HMUSN]

headers add power..

on a v6 it will be VERY minimal.

there would not be a market for them if they didn't add power. period.

people think that they are going to get huge gains out of them.. that is false..
that goes for GT's as well.

now with some headwork done you can expect more power out of them rather than just slapping them on.

[Mustangfan99]

Originally Posted by thisisme Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 do a little reserch, aftermarket headers and a mid pipe will free up a good amout of horse, that is the most noob comment ever. plese if you do not know much about cars dont spout false info, ever notice that almost every body wants mac long tube headers, its not just for show pal. Ok buddy. Think what you want. But, you are wrong. Headers do NOT add power. Period. MAYBE an x pipe will add like 2 hp. But, nothing more. Don't say i post false information. Because, kid, you are sadly misinformed. Iv been doing this before you were an itch in your daddies pants. And everybody wants MAC long tube headers because thats what been pounded into their heads. They think that its going to do something for them, but its not. Other misinformed people (like you) tell them to get them because they think that they add power, and they dont. You are the one who needs to do research before you post shit. Not me. If I dont know the answer, I will not post. EDIT: To add. Headers only add a good amount of horse on ODD firing enignes. Not EVEN firing engines.

WOW! dude, are you totally wasted or somthing, full exhaust can add 15-20 hp, you really dont know dick about cars, you probably get all of your "performance" parts at pepboys. why the hell would people spend 200-400 dollars for true duals on their car to add 2 hp. You really need to shut up. I seriously doubt you have doing any work on any cars for any amout of time. :stupid

[HMUSN]

keep it friendly....

[thisisme]

Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 Originally Posted by thisisme Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 do a little reserch, aftermarket headers and a mid pipe will free up a good amout of horse, that is the most noob comment ever. plese if you do not know much about cars dont spout false info, ever notice that almost every body wants mac long tube headers, its not just for show pal. Ok buddy. Think what you want. But, you are wrong. Headers do NOT add power. Period. MAYBE an x pipe will add like 2 hp. But, nothing more. Don't say i post false information. Because, kid, you are sadly misinformed. Iv been doing this before you were an itch in your daddies pants. And everybody wants MAC long tube headers because thats what been pounded into their heads. They think that its going to do something for them, but its not. Other misinformed people (like you) tell them to get them because they think that they add power, and they dont. You are the one who needs to do research before you post shit. Not me. If I dont know the answer, I will not post. EDIT: To add. Headers only add a good amount of horse on ODD firing enignes. Not EVEN firing engines. WOW! dude, are you totally wasted or somthing, full exhaust can add 15-20 hp, you really dont know dick about cars, you probably get all of your "performance" parts at pepboys. why the hell would people spend 200-400 dollars for true duals on their car to add 2 hp. You really need to shut up. I seriously doubt you have doing any work on any cars for any amout of time. :stupid

Alright man, think what you want. Im not going to argue with a misinformed teenager about this. You can think what you want about how long iv been doing this, i really dont care. Do me a favor, call JPC racing in Glen Burnie, Md. Ask to speak to Justin. Tell him Rob from A&C Performance told you to call to get some clarification on headers and x and h pipes for v6 mustangs. And when he tells you the same exact thing that I told you, tell him (the guy that wins on pinks RELIGIOUSLY. And the guy with an 11 second v6 91 mustang) is wrong.

EDIT: Here is the number for JPC: 410-768-3025

[thisisme]

Originally Posted by HMUSN headers add power.. on a v6 it will be VERY minimal. there would not be a market for them if they didn't add power. period. people think that they are going to get huge gains out of them.. that is false.. that goes for GT's as well. now with some headwork done you can expect more power out of them rather than just slapping them on.

No, with a v6, headers will not do anything. They just look a little nicer than the ones form the factory. the ONLY thing that they do (long tube), is add a little bit of a deeper sound. And, their would be a market for them if they didnt do anything. Hell, look at Electronic Superchargers....you gonna say "WOW!, since there is a market for them, they must do something!!!" Didn't think so.