[stinglikeastang]

what is the difference, and which one is better $$$ wise, and performance wise, i might look into getting one and what are the benifits of getting either one?

[HMUSN]

Let's start with the similarities. Both turbochargers and superchargers are called forced induction systems. They compress the air flowing into the engine (see How Car Engines Work for a description of airflow in a normal engine). The advantage of compressing the air is that it lets the engine stuff more air into a cylinder. More air means that more fuel can be stuffed in, too, so you get more power from each explosion in each cylinder. A turbo/supercharged engine produces more power overall than the same engine without the charging.

The typical boost provided by either a turbocharger or a supercharger is 6 to 8 pounds per square inch (psi). Since normal atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi at sea level, you can see that you are getting about 50-percent more air into the engine. Therefore, you would expect to get 50-percent more power. It's not perfectly efficient, though, so you might get a 30-percent to 40-percent improvement instead.

The key difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger is its power supply. Something has to supply the power to run the air compressor. In a supercharger, there is a belt that connects directly to the engine. It gets its power the same way that the water pump or alternator does. A turbocharger, on the other hand, gets its power from the exhaust stream. The exhaust runs through a turbine, which in turn spins the compressor (see How Gas Turbine Engines Work for details).

There are tradeoffs in both systems. In theory, a turbocharger is more efficient because it is using the "wasted" energy in the exhaust stream for its power source. On the other hand, a turbocharger causes some amount of back pressure in the exhaust system and tends to provide less boost until the engine is running at higher RPMs. Superchargers are easier to install but tend to be more expensive.

[stinglikeastang]

thank you

[HMUSN]

yup.

[Onemanzu]

a lot of people are biased to one or the other though... and its mostly personal preference... seeing as the turbo has the capability to be more eficent it is often used... but the down fall to it is more tunning is required to get peak performance...

superchargers on the other hand are easier to install and tune but are more expensive and less eficent in the end... so they both have pro's and con's

[Ole Yeller]

My personal opinion is to the Turbo, it's more efficient. Yes it is more invasive to install, but the results are worth it.

your using the engine's own waste to create more energy, gas mileage increases and pound per pound you get more of a power increase with a turbo...

in my opinion.... turbo FTW!

[myPONYisHARD]

supercharger is cheeper than turbo, turbo makes more power at a lower psi level... they both sound great and are good power adders

[Onemanzu]

im still waiting for KB to get back to me about a super for my car... i wanna get some ideas so i know how to budget and what not

[ESG-642T]

Turbo > SC pretty much

Hmm

And omz aim me -

[itschristorres8]

turbo ftw
stay on here a few more weeks,
im making a thread in 1min about my turbo kit...
my pipes are here
i'll have before turbo videos of my car
and after turbo videos at just 4psi

[006leenstang00]

Originally Posted by HMUSN There are tradeoffs in both systems. In theory, a turbocharger is more efficient because it is using the "wasted" energy in the exhaust stream for its power source. On the other hand, a turbocharger causes some amount of back pressure in the exhaust system and tends to provide less boost until the engine is running at higher RPMs. Superchargers are easier to install but tend to be more expensive.

Hey don't they have turbo boost controllers so u can set the rpm that u want the boost to kick in at?? So like normally if ur not hittin it hard the turbo would kick in at like 3 grand or so ...but if u wanted to have it kick in at 1500 rpm can u get somethin to control that?

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by 006leenstang00 Originally Posted by HMUSN There are tradeoffs in both systems. In theory, a turbocharger is more efficient because it is using the "wasted" energy in the exhaust stream for its power source. On the other hand, a turbocharger causes some amount of back pressure in the exhaust system and tends to provide less boost until the engine is running at higher RPMs. Superchargers are easier to install but tend to be more expensive. Hey don't they have turbo boost controllers so u can set the rpm that u want the boost to kick in at?? So like normally if ur not hittin it hard the turbo would kick in at like 3 grand or so ...but if u wanted to have it kick in at 1500 rpm can u get somethin to control that?

Don't quite work like that... but uhh somewhat!

[006leenstang00]

yeah my friend had somethin in his civic called a vtec controller when we were in highschool but i wasn't sure if they had something like that for a reg. turbo???

[TheUNZippee!]

Turbo's & Centrifugal type s/c'ers make more power in the middle & top of the powerband.
Roots type & Whipples, or twin screws, make better power in the lower half of the powerband. So it all depends on what you want & when you want it.

Learn about twin screw's (Whipple): Twin Screw

Learn about Roots type: Roots

Learn about Centrifugal s/cers: Centri's

Learn about turbos: Turbos

[flattusmaximus78]

Zippies thing should just be a sticky... countless new people come on the v6 tech section and ask the same damn question and even sometimes bring nitrous into it... then never follow up on purchasing either which really kills me. So why not a sticky?

[El_Cangri]

y not a sticky cause then we would have a big mess like the other sub section wich got divided by year....


and ppl never read stickies... we have one that says where to buy thing tq specs and a bunch of other stuff but ppl never read it... they just create a membership and as fast as they get it they ask....


besides there are never dumb questions.. just retarded ppl

[flattusmaximus78]

Amen.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee! Turbo's & Centrifugal type s/c'ers make more power in the middle & top of the powerband. Roots type & Whipples, or twin screws, make better power in the lower half of the powerband. So it all depends on what you want & when you want it. Learn about twin screw's (Whipple): Twin Screw Learn about Roots type: Roots Learn about Centrifugal s/cers: Centri's Learn about turbos: Turbos

The right sized turbos with a twin setup can make good low end also!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z2zlvR1B9mg

[itschristorres8]

heres an example for you for s/c vs turbo

11psi procharger = same hp as 7psi single turbo

[2000Mustang]

Ok, so I know that you cannot run LT's with a turbo, but is there any reason LT's wont work with a sc?