[knightster420]

Long Tube Off Road H-Pipe. Does this hook strait up to my stock manifolds and then i buy a mac cat back and hook up to this and thats all i need besides the mil eliminators?? getting parts tommorrow i need help guys

[knightster420]

i meant to say this one because i have stock manifolds (Direct Replacement Off Road H-Pipes) then hook it up to the mac cat back system and it also appears i have 4 02 sensors on my 2000 by this i mean i have four plug sensors in my exhaust 2 in the front of the cats and 2 behind them so do i need 2 sets of mil eliminators??

[Onemanzu]

if you wanna do a mid pipe you want short tube headers... this will mean that the mid pipe has some bends in it that go up into the engine bay... that is the part you need

[knightster420]

yea and what about the four o2 sensors i mean are all four of these plugs o2 sensors?

[Onemanzu]

yes sir... my only question is are you running off road equipment?? if so you need to get a set of MIL's for your car too

[00GT MuscleBlack]

honestly it would be much easier doing it onemanzus way, but IMO i would go with the h-pipe and LT headers....no they would not hook up to the stock manifolds so you would have to do some welding but it would be WELLLL worth it....My buddy has flowmaster 40's ..mac-hpipe....and MAC LT headers on his 6 and it is BY FAR the best exhaust ive heard on a 6...it sounds just as good as mine and i have an 8....i would recommend getting it customly done ftw...

[Onemanzu]

thats what i am doing... i am thinking about getting custom mid MAC LT's and i have a connection on catbacks... ha so yea

[knightster420]

ok cause someone had told me the front to sensors where not o2 sensors they where some else and it just seems weird that my car has 4 o2 sensors are u sure bout this?

[Onemanzu]

yea im positive... im not GF... ha ha ... thats a joke that you wont get which is kinda funnier ... ha

umm the front ones are air to fuel and the rear ones are to check the efficiency of the cats

[knightster420]

so i gotta buy 2 sets of eliminators? a total of 4 of em and thanks for the help

[Onemanzu]

no just the ones that say how the cats are doing...

the front ones you need the back ones need the MIL elims connected that way the computer doesn't run rich all the time

[knightster420]

oooooooo ok i got yea so there is a spot on the new h pipe to connect the front 2?

[knightster420]

looking at the h pipe tho it appears the holes r in the back so i guess its the 2 closet to the manifolds that get the eliminators?

[00GT MuscleBlack]

I actually bought Mil eliminators for my 6er when i had it before i sold it that are still jsut sitting in my room if u want them??

[knightster420]

first im still tring to make sense of this. If i look at the h pipe the holes r in the rear of it does this mean its the 2 sensors near the manifolds that get the eliminators i know i sound stupid but damn is it the set near the manifolds that i eliminate??????????????????????

[AtlanticBlue99]

the rear pair of sensors get the MIL because they test the oxygen content of post-catted air. the front pair remain the same (or get o2 sensor extender harness in a long tube setup).

you dont "eliminate." you plug in MIL eliminators into the harness of the rear pair

[02ponypackage]

just make sure those MILs arent illegal in your state...like i hear they are in FL for some odd reason

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by 02ponypackage just make sure those MILs arent illegal in your state...like i hear they are in FL for some odd reason

they are only illegal if your county/state has emissions testing. in GA it is only legal in Atlanta... but if you have emissions, long tubes will most-likely fail a visual inspection, and off road pipes will pass the CEL test with the MIL eliminators, but will fail the sniffer test.

[dapack69]

You can not use a long tube mid pipe to hook up to your shorties, its two different complete animals.

[Onemanzu]

wait MB you have a set of MILS?? what brand and what price are you looking to sell them at... you just got my attention man PM sent!!