[mustang kid 1989]

ok well im probally a complete idiot but i was just browsing the internet and all the sudden i was completly confused
whats the difference between a x pipe and a y pipe that goes into something like this http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv6helix.htm
wouldnt it really do the same thing, the only thing that seems differnt to me is that u would have the part were they connect back to 1 is longer than ur typical x pipe, i mean it goes 2 to 1 back to 2 in both, idunno maybe im talking out of my ass but i was just sitting here and all the sudden i was like

[AtlanticBlue99]

X pipe is a crossover mid pipe that crosses banks in an X shape. H pipe crosses in an H shape (these are two dual mid pipes). the Y pipe is not dual exhaust. 2 banks become and exit as one in a Y pipe setup

[AtlanticBlue99]

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Y pipe


the top of each pic is towards the engine, the bottom is towards the tips

[mustang kid 1989]

i know what they all are im saying though wouldnt it be doing the same thing, starts as 2 goes to 1 then splits to 2 on the x pipe and if u get the "fake dual"

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by mustang kid 1989 i know what they all are im saying though wouldnt it be doing the same thing, starts as 2 goes to 1 then splits to 2 on the x pipe and if u get the "fake dual"

no, not at all. first off, the Y never splits back up, and secondly, the X crossover is not an extended crossover. it just crosses.

it isn't:

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[stinglikeastang]

i think he was asking like what if u connect a y-pipe the opposite ways to ur stock y-pipe, so it looks like, let me see if i can do it

l l
V
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(upside down V)
l l
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[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by stinglikeastang i think he was asking like what if u connect a y-pipe the opposite ways to ur stock y-pipe, so it looks like, let me see if i can do it l l V l l (upside down V) l l l l

who would fabricate such a setup?

[mustang kid 1989]

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 Originally Posted by mustang kid 1989 i know what they all are im saying though wouldnt it be doing the same thing, starts as 2 goes to 1 then splits to 2 on the x pipe and if u get the "fake dual" no, not at all. first off, the Y never splits back up, and secondly, the X crossover is not an extended crossover. it just crosses.

im not saying that just the y pipe, i know that doesnt split im just saying wouldnt it just be the same thing except its extended in the middle with that exhaust, not like im planning on getting that or anything i was just wondering

[mustang kid 1989]

the link in original post.........http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv6helix.htm

[stinglikeastang]

i dont kno, i myself have an h

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by mustang kid 1989 Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 Originally Posted by mustang kid 1989 i know what they all are im saying though wouldnt it be doing the same thing, starts as 2 goes to 1 then splits to 2 on the x pipe and if u get the "fake dual" no, not at all. first off, the Y never splits back up, and secondly, the X crossover is not an extended crossover. it just crosses. im not saying that just the y pipe, i know that doesnt split im just saying wouldnt it just be the same thing except its extended in the middle with that exhaust, not like im planning on getting that or anything i was just wondering

no, that is NOT the same thing. not even close. X pipes are the least restrictive. the idea you are talking about is VERY restrictive

[AtlanticBlue99]

p.s. that link is of a bolt on catback to a Y pipe. that is very restrictive, gives very little (if any) power gains, and only benefits sound

[mustang kid 1989]

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 p.s. that link is of a bolt on catback to a Y pipe. that is very restrictive, gives very little (if any) power gains, and only benefits sound

alright well i never said anything about power or anything, there v6 mustangs there slow ppl need to get over that............
i was just saying the basic idea in it would be doing the same thing except with the middle part would be longer
x ==><==
y ==>-<==

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by mustang kid 1989 Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 p.s. that link is of a bolt on catback to a Y pipe. that is very restrictive, gives very little (if any) power gains, and only benefits sound alright well i never said anything about power or anything, there v6 mustangs there slow ppl need to get over that............ i was just saying the basic idea in it would be doing the same thing except with the middle part would be longer x ==><== y ==>-<==

no, they are not at all similar. and tell mathew neuhart v6 mustangs are slow. btw, he runs 9s in the 1/4

[mustang kid 1989]

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 Originally Posted by mustang kid 1989 Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 p.s. that link is of a bolt on catback to a Y pipe. that is very restrictive, gives very little (if any) power gains, and only benefits sound alright well i never said anything about power or anything, there v6 mustangs there slow ppl need to get over that............ i was just saying the basic idea in it would be doing the same thing except with the middle part would be longer x ==><== y ==>-<== no, they are not at all similar. and tell mathew neuhart v6 mustangs are slow. btw, he runs 9s in the 1/4

ya i will tell him that, right after he tells me he put 40grand of uprgrades into the car.....

[Onemanzu]

ha ha him and delk ... their are tons of kids with fast 6ers ... sorry for the thread jack but if your ever board hope over to 3.8mustang.com and just browse their forums... though i wouldn't suggest joining they are bigger asses there then we are here...

continue on ... i would like to chime in and say that if the middle part between the two Y's were bout 3 inch or so and that the Y's were also larger then it might be similar but with them being stock size ... its to small to notice any change really ... thats why if exhaust is your only mod... like hey this is the only thing i wanna do just for sound... then do the Y back ... if not then go wit an X or something

kk my bad continue on

[AtlanticBlue99]

well there is NO restriction in an X pipe crossover. there is a TON of restriction in a Y pipe because both banks become one before splitting again. the banks never become one in an X pipe; they just cross.

imagine an intersection on the street. a 4-way stop is efficient because traffic moves right along. now imagine two 3-way intersections about 1/8 mile apart. you have to merge in and out of the traffic of other traffic. this intermingling is the restriction of a Y pipe.

[Mustangfan99]

i think you are just going throght way too much trouble to do this, why not just get a true dual setup, It will sound good, and give you some noticeable power gains.