long tubes on a v-6

JASonic · September 12th, 2007, 01:18 PM

3 part question, sorry... Im not sure if this belongs in exhaust

Having a V-6, what kind of HP gains can I expect from Mac long tubes? How do they create more power? Can they be installed at home or is it something that requires welding at a shop?

My mods are minimal, Flowmasters and FIPK.

Juggalo_X · September 12th, 2007, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by ja002gl

3 part question, sorry... Im not sure if this belongs in exhaust

Having a V-6, what kind of HP gains can I expect from Mac long tubes? How do they create more power? Can they be installed at home or is it something that requires welding at a shop?

My mods are minimal, Flowmasters and FIPK.

they allow better flow, might see up to 10 hp with a good tune. ill leave this here seeing as the question is specific to the gains of a v6 with the exhaust setup. they are also not difficult to install at all. if you have done some work your self. the hardest part will be getting them in u have to move some shit to slide them into place.

MSO · September 12th, 2007, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X

Originally Posted by ja002gl

3 part question, sorry... Im not sure if this belongs in exhaust

Having a V-6, what kind of HP gains can I expect from Mac long tubes? How do they create more power? Can they be installed at home or is it something that requires welding at a shop?

My mods are minimal, Flowmasters and FIPK.

they allow better flow, might see up to 10 hp with a good tune. ill leave this here seeing as the question is specific to the gains of a v6 with the exhaust setup.

^now ur jus nit-picking

he also asked how difficult they are to install

Drgnracin72 · September 12th, 2007, 01:45 PM

shhhh.......... ive neevr done them on a 6er but on a 4.6 they are hard as hell. i wouldnt think they would be as hard on a 6er since the motor isnt nearly as wide or as big and bulky. could probably do it ina day if youve never done it before

JASonic · September 12th, 2007, 02:14 PM

if they are longer than the original header, do you have to cut some of the exhaust pipe?

Juggalo_X · September 12th, 2007, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by ja002gl

if they are longer than the original header, do you have to cut some of the exhaust pipe?

you will need a new mid pipe at least. aand yes they are longer. do you have duel exhaust already?

JASonic · September 12th, 2007, 02:33 PM

yes. I have 2.

3 pipes run down and come together and then go all the way to the back. with a muffler on each. One on each side.

From what i can see, it was "cut" from stock.

Juggalo_X · September 12th, 2007, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by ja002gl

yes. I have 2.

3 pipes run down and come together and then go all the way to the back. with a muffler on each. One on each side.

From what i can see, it was "cut" from stock.

pictures from the way u describe you may already have long tubes

JASonic · September 12th, 2007, 02:54 PM

no kidding? Wow! That would be a surprise. It will be hard for me to get under there and get a good pic. Do you know what the length would be for a short and a long? Maybe I can measure them to see?

I guess this wont help. I really dont know where to start and stop the measurement anyway.

I have to assume the headers are stock. The "appear" to be the same age as the rest of the stock stuff. IDK.

I guess Im afraid of cutting the old stuff. And 2, making them fit right on a V-6 with automatic.

Juggalo_X · September 12th, 2007, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by ja002gl

no kidding? Wow! That would be a surprise. It will be hard for me to get under there and get a good pic. Do you know what the length would be for a short and a long? Maybe I can measure them to see?

I guess this wont help. I really dont know where to start and stop the measurement anyway.

I have to assume the headers are stock. The "appear" to be the same age as the rest of the stock stuff. IDK.

I guess Im afraid of cutting the old stuff. And 2, making them fit right on a V-6 with automatic.

a shorty you can see where it bolts to the mid pipe from under the hood a long tube you would have to look under the car to see where it bolts to its mid pipe.

tomzac · September 12th, 2007, 03:00 PM

Long tubes are a great mod for the v6 engine. They not only allow the engine to breath better by keeping exhaust gases hotter through the exhaust system, but the principal of the long tube header is to actually pull exhaust gases out of the cylinder by using the timed pressure wave resulting from energy of the moving gases itself. That's where the phrase "Tuned Headers" can from. The v6 (even fire) engine benefits slightly more from this physics than an odd fire counterpart. With a good tune, 10-15 whp is obtainable. There are little to no benefits from short headers.

JASonic · September 12th, 2007, 03:00 PM

I can definately see from the hood... so I got shor-tees.

Thanks for you help with this... now I can start to make a decision. I seen them for the V-6 on a web site for $296. The were MAC. I guess thats a good price.

Juggalo_X · September 12th, 2007, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by ja002gl

I can definately see from the hood... so I got shor-tees.

Thanks for you help with this... now I can start to make a decision. I seen them for the V-6 on a web site for $296. The were MAC. I guess thats a good price.

yep and MAC is the only manufacturer.

VSR13 · September 12th, 2007, 03:35 PM

also b sure that when u get them they are the ceramic coated ones

Juggalo_X · September 12th, 2007, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by VSR13

also b sure that when u get them they are the ceramic coated ones

+1

Mustangfan99 · September 12th, 2007, 03:47 PM

long tubes are nice, def a good mod, some guy i know did it without too much of a hassle.

JASonic · September 12th, 2007, 03:58 PM

does ceramic do something with the heat better than metal alone?

Juggalo_X · September 12th, 2007, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by ja002gl

does ceramic do something with the heat better than metal alone?

stops it from soaking to the engine bay a bit and prevents corrosion.

Mustangfan99 · September 12th, 2007, 04:08 PM

+1 yeha, ceramic is a must, like juggalo said, its gonna be a smart move in the long run.

AtlanticBlue99 · September 12th, 2007, 06:19 PM

very easy on the v6: http://www.moddedmustangs.com/ford-m...r-install.html

September 12th, 2007, 01:18 PM	#1
JASonic The George Forman of Keepers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,385 iTrader: 20 reviews	long tubes on a v-6 3 part question, sorry... Im not sure if this belongs in exhaust Having a V-6, what kind of HP gains can I expect from Mac long tubes? How do they create more power? Can they be installed at home or is it something that requires welding at a shop? My mods are minimal, Flowmasters and FIPK.

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Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	shhhh.......... ive neevr done them on a 6er but on a 4.6 they are hard as hell. i wouldnt think they would be as hard on a 6er since the motor isnt nearly as wide or as big and bulky. could probably do it ina day if youve never done it before __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 12th, 2007, 03:00 PM	#11
tomzac Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 424 iTrader: 0 reviews	Long tubes are a great mod for the v6 engine. They not only allow the engine to breath better by keeping exhaust gases hotter through the exhaust system, but the principal of the long tube header is to actually pull exhaust gases out of the cylinder by using the timed pressure wave resulting from energy of the moving gases itself. That's where the phrase "Tuned Headers" can from. The v6 (even fire) engine benefits slightly more from this physics than an odd fire counterpart. With a good tune, 10-15 whp is obtainable. There are little to no benefits from short headers. __________________ 2002 Summer Beater

September 12th, 2007, 03:47 PM	#16
Mustangfan99 Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 576 iTrader: 0 reviews	long tubes are nice, def a good mod, some guy i know did it without too much of a hassle. __________________ V6 power!

September 12th, 2007, 04:08 PM	#19
Mustangfan99 Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 576 iTrader: 0 reviews	+1 yeha, ceramic is a must, like juggalo said, its gonna be a smart move in the long run. __________________ V6 power!

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September 12th, 2007, 02:14 PM	#5
JASonic The George Forman of Keepers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,385 iTrader: 20 reviews	if they are longer than the original header, do you have to cut some of the exhaust pipe?

September 12th, 2007, 02:33 PM	#7
JASonic The George Forman of Keepers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,385 iTrader: 20 reviews	yes. I have 2. 3 pipes run down and come together and then go all the way to the back. with a muffler on each. One on each side. From what i can see, it was "cut" from stock.

September 12th, 2007, 02:54 PM	#9
JASonic The George Forman of Keepers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,385 iTrader: 20 reviews	no kidding? Wow! That would be a surprise. It will be hard for me to get under there and get a good pic. Do you know what the length would be for a short and a long? Maybe I can measure them to see? I guess this wont help. I really dont know where to start and stop the measurement anyway. I have to assume the headers are stock. The "appear" to be the same age as the rest of the stock stuff. IDK. I guess Im afraid of cutting the old stuff. And 2, making them fit right on a V-6 with automatic.

September 12th, 2007, 03:35 PM	#14
VSR13 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 503 iTrader: 0 reviews	also b sure that when u get them they are the ceramic coated ones

September 12th, 2007, 03:58 PM	#17
JASonic The George Forman of Keepers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,385 iTrader: 20 reviews	does ceramic do something with the heat better than metal alone?

September 12th, 2007, 06:19 PM	#20
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	very easy on the v6: http://www.moddedmustangs.com/ford-m...r-install.html __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

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