[95kystang]

Ok guys, i got a second job and i think ill be able to come by a split port intake or something of the sort. Im not sure whether or not i should get the split port, or a SCT tuner or what. I think i can do the split intake swap, but i need to know whether to buy the intake out of a newer 3.8, or to buy one from a company. Please, i need some help... would really like to learn about my little sixer.

[Juggalo_X]

split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang.

[tomzac]

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang.

Why the 01-04 intake? 02 has already proven the ported, non-IMRC valve lower intake is the route to go. And since he has a slightly more aggresive cam profile, he'll get even more power out of a complete set of ported sp intakes, sp heads, dual exhaust, and a tune. If you can get a 13+whp gain out of a ported lower alone, a ported set should yield 40hp over the stock splitport. Add the other boltons and he should dyno right around 230-240whp - he'll be making stock GT power!

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang. Why the 01-04 intake? 02 has already proven the ported, non-IMRC valve lower intake is the route to go. And since he has a slightly more aggresive cam profile, he'll get even more power out of a complete set of ported sp intakes, sp heads, dual exhaust, and a tune. If you can get a 13+whp gain out of a ported lower alone, a ported set should yield 40hp over the stock splitport. Add the other boltons and he should dyno right around 230-240whp - he'll be making stock GT power!

yes thats ported and polished. if he is just taking it off of the car and swaping straight the imrc is a better choice. also if he is not going with a blower or a turbo, and chooses to keep it N/A the IMRC is benificial in his case. and can always be removed if he desides to go to a power adder.

[tomzac]

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang. Why the 01-04 intake? 02 has already proven the ported, non-IMRC valve lower intake is the route to go. And since he has a slightly more aggresive cam profile, he'll get even more power out of a complete set of ported sp intakes, sp heads, dual exhaust, and a tune. If you can get a 13+whp gain out of a ported lower alone, a ported set should yield 40hp over the stock splitport. Add the other boltons and he should dyno right around 230-240whp - he'll be making stock GT power! yes thats ported and polished. if he is just taking it off of the car and swaping straight the imrc is a better choice. also if he is not going with a blower or a turbo, and chooses to keep it N/A the IMRC is benificial in his case. and can always be removed if he desides to go to a power adder.

02 showed gains in NA application. There is no reason to have the IMRC valves what so ever. Besides, he'll need more tune calibrations with them. THEY ARE USELESS.

[tomzac]

And don't mention the low end torque he'll miss. It's a v6 for god sake... Unless you're comparing it to a honda - V6s DON'T HAVE LOW END TORQUE.

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang. Why the 01-04 intake? 02 has already proven the ported, non-IMRC valve lower intake is the route to go. And since he has a slightly more aggresive cam profile, he'll get even more power out of a complete set of ported sp intakes, sp heads, dual exhaust, and a tune. If you can get a 13+whp gain out of a ported lower alone, a ported set should yield 40hp over the stock splitport. Add the other boltons and he should dyno right around 230-240whp - he'll be making stock GT power! yes thats ported and polished. if he is just taking it off of the car and swaping straight the imrc is a better choice. also if he is not going with a blower or a turbo, and chooses to keep it N/A the IMRC is benificial in his case. and can always be removed if he desides to go to a power adder. 02 showed gains in NA application. There is no reason to have the IMRC valves what so ever. Besides, he'll need more tune calibrations with them. THEY ARE USELESS.

gains in the top end. lower was a loss and on a N/A torque is much needed. building an N/A motor id have to say id keep my IMRC if i was blowing it id remove it for sure. just IMO

[tomzac]

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang. Why the 01-04 intake? 02 has already proven the ported, non-IMRC valve lower intake is the route to go. And since he has a slightly more aggresive cam profile, he'll get even more power out of a complete set of ported sp intakes, sp heads, dual exhaust, and a tune. If you can get a 13+whp gain out of a ported lower alone, a ported set should yield 40hp over the stock splitport. Add the other boltons and he should dyno right around 230-240whp - he'll be making stock GT power! yes thats ported and polished. if he is just taking it off of the car and swaping straight the imrc is a better choice. also if he is not going with a blower or a turbo, and chooses to keep it N/A the IMRC is benificial in his case. and can always be removed if he desides to go to a power adder. 02 showed gains in NA application. There is no reason to have the IMRC valves what so ever. Besides, he'll need more tune calibrations with them. THEY ARE USELESS. gains in the top end. lower was a loss and on a N/A torque is much needed. building an N/A motor id have to say id keep my IMRC if i was blowing it id remove it for sure. just IMO

Read previous post.

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang. Why the 01-04 intake? 02 has already proven the ported, non-IMRC valve lower intake is the route to go. And since he has a slightly more aggresive cam profile, he'll get even more power out of a complete set of ported sp intakes, sp heads, dual exhaust, and a tune. If you can get a 13+whp gain out of a ported lower alone, a ported set should yield 40hp over the stock splitport. Add the other boltons and he should dyno right around 230-240whp - he'll be making stock GT power! yes thats ported and polished. if he is just taking it off of the car and swaping straight the imrc is a better choice. also if he is not going with a blower or a turbo, and chooses to keep it N/A the IMRC is benificial in his case. and can always be removed if he desides to go to a power adder. 02 showed gains in NA application. There is no reason to have the IMRC valves what so ever. Besides, he'll need more tune calibrations with them. THEY ARE USELESS. gains in the top end. lower was a loss and on a N/A torque is much needed. building an N/A motor id have to say id keep my IMRC if i was blowing it id remove it for sure. just IMO Read previous post.

supercharger u perv

[SSStang]

Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang. Why the 01-04 intake? 02 has already proven the ported, non-IMRC valve lower intake is the route to go. And since he has a slightly more aggresive cam profile, he'll get even more power out of a complete set of ported sp intakes, sp heads, dual exhaust, and a tune. If you can get a 13+whp gain out of a ported lower alone, a ported set should yield 40hp over the stock splitport. Add the other boltons and he should dyno right around 230-240whp - he'll be making stock GT power!

Something tells me tomzac is just making fun here....

[tomzac]

Originally Posted by SSStang Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang. Why the 01-04 intake? 02 has already proven the ported, non-IMRC valve lower intake is the route to go. And since he has a slightly more aggresive cam profile, he'll get even more power out of a complete set of ported sp intakes, sp heads, dual exhaust, and a tune. If you can get a 13+whp gain out of a ported lower alone, a ported set should yield 40hp over the stock splitport. Add the other boltons and he should dyno right around 230-240whp - he'll be making stock GT power! Something tells me tomzac is just making fun here....

No man, keeping it tech.

[SSStang]

Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by SSStang Originally Posted by tomzac Originally Posted by Juggalo_X split port will give you more bang for you buck first mod. get one off of a 01-04 v6 mustang. Why the 01-04 intake? 02 has already proven the ported, non-IMRC valve lower intake is the route to go. And since he has a slightly more aggresive cam profile, he'll get even more power out of a complete set of ported sp intakes, sp heads, dual exhaust, and a tune. If you can get a 13+whp gain out of a ported lower alone, a ported set should yield 40hp over the stock splitport. Add the other boltons and he should dyno right around 230-240whp - he'll be making stock GT power! Something tells me tomzac is just making fun here.... No man, keeping it tech.

*cough*
Not what that PM said ....

Anyway moving on: If you do a splitport swap your more than likely going to need a tune to make it run correctly! So get both.

[Roadhawg]

Originally Posted by tomzac - V6s DON'T HAVE LOW END TORQUE.

Mine has around 400ft/lbs at 3200rpms.......



Maybe it should read ....NA V6s DON"T HAVE LOW END TORQUE

[95kystang]

wow lol... lets keep thr abbreviations slow for a retard. What all will i need to make the split port work, or will i be better off with supersix's manifold? no bottom intake work yet fellers, or supercharging. baby steps.

[Mustangfan99]

Originally Posted by Roadhawg Originally Posted by tomzac - V6s DON'T HAVE LOW END TORQUE. Mine has around 400ft/lbs at 3200rpms....... Maybe it should read ....NA V6s DON"T HAVE LOW END TORQUE

He is talking about stock numbers.

[tomzac]

Originally Posted by Mustangfan99 Originally Posted by Roadhawg Originally Posted by tomzac - V6s DON'T HAVE LOW END TORQUE. Mine has around 400ft/lbs at 3200rpms....... Maybe it should read ....NA V6s DON"T HAVE LOW END TORQUE He is talking about stock numbers.

Obviously, thank you. :wink

To the OP:

Baby steps yes, but you should have a final goal in mind. As it stands, modified single port heads out flow modified splitport heads when it come to performance. If I had a single port engine, I would not waste my time on the splitport mod unless I was going to stop modding there. To do the sp mod you'll need at least: heads, intakes (upper/lower), thottle body and any intake stuff, fuel injectors, injector harness, modified fuelrail (I think because of return vs returnless systems), a flasher/chip for a retune, vacuum lines, possibly a new MAF and Air Intake Temp sensor, and Throttle Position Sensor. I might have missed something. IMO that's a lot of stuff for a 40hp gain.

BTW: I'm concidering swapping to single port heads because of their forced induction potential. But that's where my goal is taking me.

[02ponypackage]

Honestly I dont care what anyone thinks about my ported lower and the gains I got...you also forget or not realize that I got a full on tune with it...the car also has flowmasters on it and not the stock GT mufflers...and is now on 93octane tune not 87...also timing was bumped 2 more degrees from what it was previously...make fun all you want...when u have someone who makes the programs...obviously he knows what hes doing...if you cant believe a Mustang Dyne...Then sure as hell dont compare a DynoJet with numbers....I cant wait till my plate is done...Im gona even here more bs with the numbers I make...

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by 02ponypackage Honestly I dont care what anyone thinks about my ported lower and the gains I got...you also forget or not realize that I got a full on tune with it...the car also has flowmasters on it and not the stock GT mufflers...and is now on 93octane tune not 87...also timing was bumped 2 more degrees from what it was previously...make fun all you want...when u have someone who makes the programs...obviously he knows what hes doing...if you cant believe a Mustang Dyne...Then sure as hell dont compare a DynoJet with numbers....I cant wait till my plate is done...Im gona even here more bs with the numbers I make...

I know you made HP bro, but look at the work you put into it and all the factors that contributed like you said. thats why on a stock engine. Split port with out IMRC is not the way to go you will make more power with it the IMRC. so thats where he should start until he decides where he is going from there.

[02ponypackage]

oh and you do lose power on the low end like everyone knows...i dont recommend doing what I did on a NA engine...unless u have some built motor.....reason i did this was because i was bored and figured if i lose power low end idc...if i gain top end idc....i was just cutting time when putting the blower on....but i expected one dyno pass...not a full out set of runs and tuning...thats why i said why bring a video this time...though my HP numbers were lower on the baseline pull and my trq was higher then before...after some tuning my numbers started going back up...so i cant say exactly what the numbers are until I dyno again when its about 75-80 outside and not so humid...will be the closes thing to my 1st intial tune

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by 02ponypackage oh and you do lose power on the low end like everyone knows...i dont recommend doing what I did on a NA engine...unless u have some built motor.....reason i did this was because i was bored and figured if i lose power low end idc...if i gain top end idc....i was just cutting time when putting the blower on....but i expected one dyno pass...not a full out set of runs and tuning...thats why i said why bring a video this time...though my HP numbers were lower on the baseline pull and my trq was higher then before...after some tuning my numbers started going back up...so i cant say exactly what the numbers are until I dyno again when its about 75-80 outside and not so humid...will be the closes thing to my 1st intial tune

exactly what i said if ur going N/A IMRC IMO and if you dont know get the IMRC neways you can always remove it later.