shorty and long tube headers

6banger96 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:19 AM

i already have a set of shorty headers but im just wondering why alot of people in here tell people to get long tubes. ive been told by a few people that there are no significant differences in hp or torque between them.

itschristorres8 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:26 AM

lol who ever told you theres no difference....well between there knowledge and the knowledge of a 1st grader is no difference

difference in sound and power!

TheUNZippee! · October 23rd, 2007, 01:27 AM

Long tubes>short tubes

whitemustang02 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:33 AM

that is true LT>ST
but (and feal free to corect me if i am wrong) but on our engine with out any mods other then exaust LT aret going to make all that big of a diference (because of the even fiering order)
agine if i am wrong pleas let me know

ESG-642T · October 23rd, 2007, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by whitemustang02

that is true LT>ST
but (and feal free to corect me if i am wrong) but on our engine with out any mods other then exaust LT aret going to make all that big of a diference (because of the even fiering order)
agine if i am wrong pleas let me know

Well shorties will give you NOTHING, long tubes might give you 5-8hp+ with full exhaust.

6banger96 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:45 AM

how much more hp are you talking about between lt and st? i was told by tech people its only 2-3 hp

tjames · October 23rd, 2007, 01:47 AM

do you have emmisions where you live? with LT you will fail, short tubes will pass but they are a waste of money because they do nothing

6banger96 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:49 AM

yeah i have emisions but im not worried about it. im getting a pro chamber hpipe for my car.

tjames · October 23rd, 2007, 01:50 AM

ok you can not care all you want and the H pipe doesnt matter, if you have long tube headers you will fail emmisions, im just warning you, do whatever you want man

whitemustang02 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:52 AM

what is it about tong tubs that make them fail

6banger96 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:52 AM

uh if you have short tubes and an h pipe with no cats youll fail too.

whitemustang02 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:53 AM

ya u have to have cats to pass

ESG-642T · October 23rd, 2007, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by 6banger96

yeah i have emisions but im not worried about it. im getting a pro chamber hpipe for my car.

A pro chamber is NOT an H pipe....

whitemustang02 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:55 AM

or maby a benjamin

tjames · October 23rd, 2007, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by 6banger96

uh if you have short tubes and an h pipe with no cats youll fail too.

im aware of that, however you can have hi-flow cats and shorty headers, but shorties really do nothing so may as well stick with the stock ones

ESG-642T · October 23rd, 2007, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by tjames

Originally Posted by 6banger96

uh if you have short tubes and an h pipe with no cats youll fail too.

im aware of that, however you can have hi-flow cats and shorty headers, but shorties really do nothing so may as well stick with the stock ones

You can have Hi-flow cats and long tube headers also.

6banger96 · October 23rd, 2007, 01:57 AM

i believe its called a mac pro chamber H PIPE

tjames · October 23rd, 2007, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by SSStang

Originally Posted by tjames

Originally Posted by 6banger96

uh if you have short tubes and an h pipe with no cats youll fail too.

im aware of that, however you can have hi-flow cats and shorty headers, but shorties really do nothing so may as well stick with the stock ones

You can have Hi-flow cats and long tube headers also.

you can but it will fail emmisions with long tubes

ESG-642T · October 23rd, 2007, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by 6banger96

i believe its called a mac pro chamber H PIPE

Its not an H pipe.

6banger96 · October 23rd, 2007, 02:03 AM

so no matter what long tubes wont pass emisions?

October 23rd, 2007, 01:19 AM	#1
6banger96 Regular 1996 Mustang V6 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: new jersey Posts: 186 iTrader: 0 reviews	shorty and long tube headers i already have a set of shorty headers but im just wondering why alot of people in here tell people to get long tubes. ive been told by a few people that there are no significant differences in hp or torque between them.

October 23rd, 2007, 01:26 AM	#2
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,859 iTrader: 2 reviews	lol who ever told you theres no difference....well between there knowledge and the knowledge of a 1st grader is no difference difference in sound and power! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

October 23rd, 2007, 01:27 AM	#3
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Long tubes>short tubes __________________

October 23rd, 2007, 01:33 AM	#4
whitemustang02 MM's official Chevy guy 2002 Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,026 iTrader: 0 reviews	that is true LT>ST but (and feal free to corect me if i am wrong) but on our engine with out any mods other then exaust LT aret going to make all that big of a diference (because of the even fiering order) agine if i am wrong pleas let me know __________________ "Speak softly and carry a big stick" - Theodore Roosevelt "Any idiot can make a V8 fast, it takes a real idiot to make a fast V6". '02 Mustang N/A 4.3 stroker away for winter '72 Chevelle project car 454 coming '93 Bronco EFI 351W DD

October 23rd, 2007, 01:52 AM	#10
whitemustang02 MM's official Chevy guy 2002 Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,026 iTrader: 0 reviews	what is it about tong tubs that make them fail __________________ "Speak softly and carry a big stick" - Theodore Roosevelt "Any idiot can make a V8 fast, it takes a real idiot to make a fast V6". '02 Mustang N/A 4.3 stroker away for winter '72 Chevelle project car 454 coming '93 Bronco EFI 351W DD

October 23rd, 2007, 01:45 AM	#6
6banger96 Regular 1996 Mustang V6 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: new jersey Posts: 186 iTrader: 0 reviews	how much more hp are you talking about between lt and st? i was told by tech people its only 2-3 hp

October 23rd, 2007, 01:49 AM	#8
6banger96 Regular 1996 Mustang V6 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: new jersey Posts: 186 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah i have emisions but im not worried about it. im getting a pro chamber hpipe for my car.

October 23rd, 2007, 01:53 AM	#12
whitemustang02 MM's official Chevy guy 2002 Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,026 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya u have to have cats to pass __________________ "Speak softly and carry a big stick" - Theodore Roosevelt "Any idiot can make a V8 fast, it takes a real idiot to make a fast V6". '02 Mustang N/A 4.3 stroker away for winter '72 Chevelle project car 454 coming '93 Bronco EFI 351W DD

October 23rd, 2007, 01:55 AM	#14
whitemustang02 MM's official Chevy guy 2002 Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,026 iTrader: 0 reviews	or maby a benjamin __________________ "Speak softly and carry a big stick" - Theodore Roosevelt "Any idiot can make a V8 fast, it takes a real idiot to make a fast V6". '02 Mustang N/A 4.3 stroker away for winter '72 Chevelle project car 454 coming '93 Bronco EFI 351W DD

October 23rd, 2007, 01:57 AM	#17
6banger96 Regular 1996 Mustang V6 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: new jersey Posts: 186 iTrader: 0 reviews	i believe its called a mac pro chamber H PIPE

October 23rd, 2007, 02:03 AM	#20
6banger96 Regular 1996 Mustang V6 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: new jersey Posts: 186 iTrader: 0 reviews	so no matter what long tubes wont pass emisions?

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