Smog Pump Delete?

00SoSlow · August 15th, 2006, 02:24 PM

What do i need to do this and why do they make fenderwall intakes if this is in teh flippin way? UGHHHH i was so happy

99mustang232 · August 15th, 2006, 03:02 PM

you should be able to use the fenderwell intake with your smog pump, i had my MAC version installed with mine equipped, but later deleted it due to failure of the pump. basically there are 2 electrical connections with a air tube, if you disconnect you will throw a few codes, the CEL can be turned off in the tune or by "pulling the bulb" (not advised). if you ever sell the car by federal law you must disclose that you disabled or tampered with the smog equipment. if you choose to delete it, i would do the EGR at the same time, cap the header bungs and plug the egr holes on the upper intake manifold. if you remove the pump and don't get your PCM reflashed it will not produce any adverse reactions other than more pollutants and the pesky CEL. i will post up a few pictures of the smog pump it'self.

99mustang232 · August 15th, 2006, 03:10 PM

smog pump picture (exterior)

ChrisJ · August 15th, 2006, 04:07 PM

Mine went in just fine with no problems...Is this something that is only there on the V6's or did they change it pre-2002?

Like I said I had no issue at all...

99mustang232 · August 15th, 2006, 04:19 PM

mine went in fine too, but it was tight to attach the filter to the intake tube... also if i'm not mistaken there is another smog pump design that looks more like a brake booster... not all v6'ers came with smog pumps, only the one's with the "california emission's package". but the smog pump resides in the passengerside fenderwell... so if you are having problems, just unbolt it and move it to the side then re-install?

00SoSlow · August 15th, 2006, 04:20 PM

yea the smog pump is totally in the way... and i can't run the intake unless it gone? what are the pros, cons to the smog and egr delete?

ChrisJ · August 15th, 2006, 04:27 PM

Oh well I guess that makes sense...My car was built in PA...

00SoSlow · August 15th, 2006, 04:28 PM

so i can just unbolt it move to the side and put the filter on then put the pump back on or just delete it all along

ChrisJ · August 15th, 2006, 04:30 PM

I would just move it...

00SoSlow · August 15th, 2006, 04:42 PM

ill try it tomorrow i have to go to work now but i may have to ad an extension peice cuz the the turn down is right where the pump is... damnit smog bastard

ChrisJ · August 15th, 2006, 04:44 PM

Well at least you have the intake there...

99mustang232 · August 15th, 2006, 05:38 PM

with my MAC CAI kit the filter was directly on the opposite side of the fenderwell, are you saying your kit has a turndown inside of the fenderwell hole? if not i would just unbolt the smog pump it put on the filter and rebolt it back up...

99mustang232 · August 15th, 2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by 00SoSlow

what are the pros, cons to the smog and egr delete?

pros: more space, much cleaner look, can utilize non-smog headers, will have to get a SCT re-flash (could be a pro?

), cleaner intake track due to not recirculating the exhaust gas into the upper manifold

cons: check engine light, increased emissions, possible failed inspection for missing smog pump (but unlikely), slightly decreased fuel economy, will have to cap egr ports on UIM or use block off plate, will have to cap smog bungs on oe exhaust manifolds.

ChrisJ · August 15th, 2006, 07:18 PM

Yeah it has a turn down that goes inside the fender...

99mustang232 · August 15th, 2006, 07:33 PM

i see, he has that demolet tunable cai... man it looks like you gotta send it back or relocate/delete the smog pump, unless you want to configure it with the filter inside the engine bay which defeats the purpose of the "fenderwell induction".

ChrisJ · August 15th, 2006, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by 99mustang232

i see, he has that demolet tunable cai... man it looks like you gotta send it back or relocate/delete the smog pump, unless you want to configure it with the filter inside the engine bay which defeats the purpose of the "fenderwell induction".

How come it went on my car with no problem?

99mustang232 · August 15th, 2006, 07:47 PM

not sure, does your smog pump look like mine (pictured above)? maybe his filter is longer? maybe the demolet tubing is slightly diff on the v6 models compared to the gt's or cobras?

ChrisJ · August 15th, 2006, 08:40 PM

Its raining right now but I will take a pic tomorrow...But I did not have any problem with the install...

00SoSlow · August 16th, 2006, 01:04 AM

im gonnna try to move configure something out maybe adding more plastic to go under the smog pump... ill take a good look at it tomorrow. My boss who builds cars said maybe just turn the tubes into the engine bay if it works... otherwise ill have to rig it somehow

August 15th, 2006, 02:24 PM	#1
00SoSlow Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 1,341	Smog Pump Delete? What do i need to do this and why do they make fenderwall intakes if this is in teh flippin way? UGHHHH i was so happy __________________ 2000 V6 Performance Red @ Cardomain Was fun but a waste... 1987 LX Hatch \| Soon to be a 600hp monster

August 15th, 2006, 03:02 PM	#2
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,719	you should be able to use the fenderwell intake with your smog pump, i had my MAC version installed with mine equipped, but later deleted it due to failure of the pump. basically there are 2 electrical connections with a air tube, if you disconnect you will throw a few codes, the CEL can be turned off in the tune or by "pulling the bulb" (not advised). if you ever sell the car by federal law you must disclose that you disabled or tampered with the smog equipment. if you choose to delete it, i would do the EGR at the same time, cap the header bungs and plug the egr holes on the upper intake manifold. if you remove the pump and don't get your PCM reflashed it will not produce any adverse reactions other than more pollutants and the pesky CEL. i will post up a few pictures of the smog pump it'self. __________________ ...even fire and single cammin

August 15th, 2006, 04:07 PM	#4
ChrisJ MuchCoolerThanGTsetGO 2002 Mustang GT SLOW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shepherdsville, Kentucky Posts: 16,286	Mine went in just fine with no problems...Is this something that is only there on the V6's or did they change it pre-2002? Like I said I had no issue at all... __________________ My Junk www.myspace.com/cjobe

August 15th, 2006, 04:19 PM	#5
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,719	mine went in fine too, but it was tight to attach the filter to the intake tube... also if i'm not mistaken there is another smog pump design that looks more like a brake booster... not all v6'ers came with smog pumps, only the one's with the "california emission's package". but the smog pump resides in the passengerside fenderwell... so if you are having problems, just unbolt it and move it to the side then re-install? __________________ ...even fire and single cammin

August 15th, 2006, 04:20 PM	#6
00SoSlow Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 1,341	yea the smog pump is totally in the way... and i can't run the intake unless it gone? what are the pros, cons to the smog and egr delete? __________________ 2000 V6 Performance Red @ Cardomain Was fun but a waste... 1987 LX Hatch \| Soon to be a 600hp monster

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August 15th, 2006, 04:27 PM	#7
ChrisJ MuchCoolerThanGTsetGO 2002 Mustang GT SLOW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shepherdsville, Kentucky Posts: 16,286	Oh well I guess that makes sense...My car was built in PA... __________________ My Junk www.myspace.com/cjobe

August 15th, 2006, 04:28 PM	#8
00SoSlow Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 1,341	so i can just unbolt it move to the side and put the filter on then put the pump back on or just delete it all along __________________ 2000 V6 Performance Red @ Cardomain Was fun but a waste... 1987 LX Hatch \| Soon to be a 600hp monster

August 15th, 2006, 04:30 PM	#9
ChrisJ MuchCoolerThanGTsetGO 2002 Mustang GT SLOW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shepherdsville, Kentucky Posts: 16,286	I would just move it... __________________ My Junk www.myspace.com/cjobe

August 15th, 2006, 04:42 PM	#10
00SoSlow Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 1,341	ill try it tomorrow i have to go to work now but i may have to ad an extension peice cuz the the turn down is right where the pump is... damnit smog bastard __________________ 2000 V6 Performance Red @ Cardomain Was fun but a waste... 1987 LX Hatch \| Soon to be a 600hp monster

August 15th, 2006, 04:44 PM	#11
ChrisJ MuchCoolerThanGTsetGO 2002 Mustang GT SLOW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shepherdsville, Kentucky Posts: 16,286	Well at least you have the intake there... __________________ My Junk www.myspace.com/cjobe

August 15th, 2006, 05:38 PM	#12
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,719	with my MAC CAI kit the filter was directly on the opposite side of the fenderwell, are you saying your kit has a turndown inside of the fenderwell hole? if not i would just unbolt the smog pump it put on the filter and rebolt it back up... __________________ ...even fire and single cammin

August 15th, 2006, 07:18 PM	#14
ChrisJ MuchCoolerThanGTsetGO 2002 Mustang GT SLOW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shepherdsville, Kentucky Posts: 16,286	Yeah it has a turn down that goes inside the fender... __________________ My Junk www.myspace.com/cjobe

August 15th, 2006, 07:33 PM	#15
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,719	i see, he has that demolet tunable cai... man it looks like you gotta send it back or relocate/delete the smog pump, unless you want to configure it with the filter inside the engine bay which defeats the purpose of the "fenderwell induction". __________________ ...even fire and single cammin

August 15th, 2006, 07:47 PM	#17
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,719	not sure, does your smog pump look like mine (pictured above)? maybe his filter is longer? maybe the demolet tubing is slightly diff on the v6 models compared to the gt's or cobras? __________________ ...even fire and single cammin

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August 15th, 2006, 08:40 PM	#18
ChrisJ MuchCoolerThanGTsetGO 2002 Mustang GT SLOW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shepherdsville, Kentucky Posts: 16,286	Its raining right now but I will take a pic tomorrow...But I did not have any problem with the install... __________________ My Junk www.myspace.com/cjobe

August 16th, 2006, 01:04 AM	#19
00SoSlow Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 1,341	im gonnna try to move configure something out maybe adding more plastic to go under the smog pump... ill take a good look at it tomorrow. My boss who builds cars said maybe just turn the tubes into the engine bay if it works... otherwise ill have to rig it somehow __________________ 2000 V6 Performance Red @ Cardomain Was fun but a waste... 1987 LX Hatch \| Soon to be a 600hp monster