[El_Cangri]

not much...

auto arent too good unless tuned..

maybe a fender

[38stang]

Double clutching are you kidding. You guys have watched fast and the furious to much.

[bluestang01]

Double clutching is mainly helpfull when entering and exiting a turn, won't help you much in a staight line.

[thetrooper31]

welcome 38stang

[flattusmaximus78]

Originally Posted by bluestang01 Double clutching is mainly helpfull when entering and exiting a turn, won't help you much in a staight line.

It's still pointless at that. The only time you would use double clutching is to rev match when slowing down or heading through a turn. Even then why tap the clutch twice. Pointless as could be. why would you double clutch in a drag race... it would slow you down like crazy. To much fast and furious.

[SantanielloITA]

i would deff take a 5 speed but auto with shift kit and stall converter ftw! and tuned

[El_Cangri]

well it just pressing the clutch and get the rpms to match so when you just shift dont lose too much power..

in other words shift while pressing gas... (dont do this on stock car sinceit can hurt)

[Mustang68]

Originally Posted by El_Cangri but auto for me takes like the fun out.. i like shifting also give me some control which a computer cant replicate

2nd that on both parts there...

Originally Posted by tjames +1 i wouldnt trade my 5 speed for an auto

same... i love my 5 spd too much...



i wont ever go back to an auto again.. except for maybe in my next truck for towing reasons... every car ive had with an auto in it sucked big time.. even had one where the computer died and the tranny wouldnt shift back out of final drive.. that was the last straw for autos when it came to me... ill take a manual over a auto any day...

[RALVAREZ26]

well double clutching still is pointless to me! i love driving a manual trans. way more fun to drive around but i traded my v6 for a '00GT auto and have a sct tune(well, the guy had it tuned)like it has a stall converter. it's programed to act like a stall converter and that bitch is bad!!!!!

[Assassin_Dan]

Originally Posted by tjames you dont need to. we have sythesizers?(i think thats what they are called) that do that for us. but it can still be done and effectivly work but is not neccisary

Synthsizers?!? Thats a good one maybe if we wanna jam out a sweet eighties tune. They are called synchronizers.

[oasr87]

double shifting is pointless.... the synchros do all the work to shift the gears smoothly... one time you release the clutch is fine for gear selection... has anyone ever driven a manual tranny with shift paddles on the steering wheel? how is it?

[TheUNZippee!]

Originally Posted by El_Cangri double clutch can make a difference by maintaining the rpms at certain level so that when shifting theres less loss of t.q at the wheels..

You don't double clutch manual transmission cars. You double clutch heavy duty transmissions in big trucks, although you can get away without it today. Double clutching came about as a result of needing to time the engine to the transmission as exactly as you could due to transmissions of the old days not having synchros. Just by the very nature of the double clutch procedure (You step on the clutch once as you move the shift lever out of gear, release the pedal, and step on it again as you engage the next gear, all in one smooth motion) implies that you take more time on the shift. If you rush this, then you are forcing it in to gear, and being even harder on the transmission that with a proper power shift.

I've been driving trucks for 20 years, and cars for 25, so I have a bit of a clue on this.

You can power shift a manual transmission in a car, or float shift it (not using the clutch at all, and this is not for racing). But you don't double clutch in a car. And if you do, you certainly won't see any improvement in performance. Come race me in a similarly powered manual tranny car, and double clutch yours, and I'll power shift mine, and you will be looking at my tail lights.

Wanna know how to power shift? Read:

The best result for racing is power shifting. It sounds easy in principle, but it takes concentration, as a blown shift can be disastrous, especially if you are running a car with no rev limiter.

To perform a power shift, you keep your right foot on the accelerator pedal during the shift. When it's time to shift, keep the accelerator wide open. With your left foot, you stab the clutch in one quick motion, down and up, moving the shifter to the next gear as your leg is descending & disengaging the clutch. The clutch is only disengaged for a split second, just enough for you to ram it in to the next gear.

How do you know at what rpm to make the power shift? Again, this depends on the car. The reason you power shift is the quicker shift helps keep the rpm up higher where the power is. So this is also a trial & error thing, and takes you getting to know your car. If you are driving a typical Mustang GT that makes it's peak horsepower around 5700 rpm, stab the clutch right at 5700 rpm. Pay attention. If you do it right, the rpm should jump up just shy of your rev limiter, and then when the clutch re-engages, your rpm will still be right where all the horsepower is. Sometimes you're better off making the shift a little sooner in the rpm range, sometimes a little higher. If you bounce it off the rev limiter, you've made the shift too late, or at too high an rpm. You have to work at it until you get the best result for your car.


Thank you. lol

[GreenFaleen]

I think cangri is referring to power shifting like zippee said
where you leave the gas depressed through the shift which is still a bad idea unless you know what your doing it is a good way to screw up synchros and your clutch,
but anyway my vote would be for the auto a good shift kit (especially with a torque converter) would out shift any manual and the 4.10s would help even more. And if both cars had 4.10s I'd still vote on the auto since first and second gear are really hard to shift through since first is so short with 4.10s

[SantanielloITA]

+1

[Mustang68]

a little off subject here but i got a question on the manuals... i saw someone mention earlier in the thread about shifting without the clutch.. I know the basic principle of it and know that it can be done... but my question is.. How do you know when the engine and tranny are matched RPM wise for the smooth transition?

i ask cuz i want to know encase i ever end up in a situation where the clutch goes out and doesnt engage/disengage....

[TheUNZippee!]

Originally Posted by Mustang68 a little off subject here but i got a question on the manuals... i saw someone mention earlier in the thread about shifting without the clutch.. I know the basic principle of it and know that it can be done... but my question is.. How do you know when the engine and tranny are matched RPM wise for the smooth transition? i ask cuz i want to know encase i ever end up in a situation where the clutch goes out and doesnt engage/disengage....

It takes practice. When you're ready to shift gears, gently lean on the shifter as you take your foot of the throttle, and it will slide out of gear. As the rpm's drop, GENTLY press the shifter in to the next gear, and it will slide in. After you get to know your car, you will be able to time it so that you can slip it in without any grinding. You will eventually know what the rpm differential is between each gear and thus know when to go for it.

[supercharged421]

this is about mine and your car isnt it? hahaha

[El_Cangri]

wtf

[El_Cangri]

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen I think cangri is referring to power shifting like zippee said where you leave the gas depressed through the shift which is still a bad idea unless you know what your doing it is a good way to screw up synchros and your clutch, but anyway my vote would be for the auto a good shift kit (especially with a torque converter) would out shift any manual and the 4.10s would help even more. And if both cars had 4.10s I'd still vote on the auto since first and second gear are really hard to shift through since first is so short with 4.10s

yes i was reffering to power shifting sorry if i confused some1

[itschristorres8]

i'd say manual....idk why people think a 5speed would loose...if it werent for the shift kit the auto would probably lose...
and 4.10s vs 4.10s manual.
stock vs stock manual