[Onemanzu]

YouTube - 3.8 mustang true duals with borla muffs...

i guess with long tubes those would sound decent

same with these

YouTube - new rims pt2

[shadow5403]

Originally Posted by tjames not on a V6 mustang they arent. go find a video on youtube. they sound horrible

I love my borla system, and think its sounds great. Maybe its cause mine is side exhaust that gives it a better sound, or maybe its cause i have headers and hf cats to go with it. find a youtube video of a v6 with a longtubes, hf cats AND borlas and then tell me if the still sound horrible. Most people dont like borlas cause they are very expensive....but id rather pay extra to have a better performing/better quality exhaust.

[Onemanzu]

ill find one as soon as you post one

GET TO IT!!

[tjames]

Originally Posted by shadow5403 I love my borla system, and think its sounds great. Maybe its cause mine is side exhaust that gives it a better sound, or maybe its cause i have headers and hf cats to go with it. find a youtube video of a v6 with a longtubes, hf cats AND borlas and then tell me if the still sound horrible. Most people dont like borlas cause they are very expensive....but id rather pay extra to have a better performing/better quality exhaust.

if you like your thats good! you should you have to drive it. i was simply offering my opinion because i have yet to hear a borla.bassani set up on a 3.8L that sounds good IMO. if you like it im happy for you, im glad you go something you like. im just not a fan and dont recommend it

[shadow5403]

Originally Posted by Onemanzu ill find one as soon as you post one GET TO IT!!

ill try and post one soon.....and by soon i mean never!

j/k, ill put one up when i have some time to kill

[Onemanzu]

Originally Posted by tjames if you like your thats good! you should you have to drive it. i was simply offering my opinion because i have yet to hear a borla.bassani set up on a 3.8L that sounds good IMO. if you like it im happy for you, im glad you go something you like. im just not a fan and dont recommend it

TJ i gave you the chance to hear them
the top video is borla bottom one is bassani

[El_Cangri]

Originally Posted by shadow5403 No one has mentioned that once you use a MAC h-pipe, ANY GT/COBRA exhaust can be used. Why do i hear no talk of borla or bassani? Those are prolly your best exhausts for power and sound.

they r for v8s the only options IMO for the v6 is the flows or mac

[tjames]

Originally Posted by Onemanzu TJ i gave you the chance to hear them the top video is borla bottom one is bassani

second vid with bassani sounds alright. still not a fan of borla. not as bad as i have heard before

[Hunt_chevs]

SLP, or Flowmaster....

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by SSStang This is an opinion, not a fact.

i proved you wrong several times with real dyno studies and comparisons. flowmaster comes in 16th out of 17 mufflers on the market for performance. magnaflow ranked 3 in that study, but ranks 1 in most others.

[SSStang]

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 i proved you wrong several times with real dyno studies and comparisons. flowmaster comes in 16th out of 17 mufflers on the market for performance. magnaflow ranked 3 in that study, but ranks 1 in most others.

Nope, don't know why you wanted to bring it back up but magnaflow is usually number 3-5.

Again: I never said flows 'outperformed' magnaflows, but sound wise they sound 100x better. And most 6ers want sound over 3hp.

Quit trying.

[Onemanzu]

this is a dead thread you two quite your bitching and let this shit sink

[El_Cangri]

flows original 40's! FTW

I care more about sound than 1-5 h.p out of a muffler that will make my car sound.. not that good

[SSStang]

Originally Posted by Onemanzu this is a dead thread you two quite your bitching and let this shit sink

Tell AB that, he brought it back up.

[shadow5403]

not to even further continue this argument, but i would like to see numbers with competing exhaust companies.

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by SSStang Nope, don't know why you wanted to bring it back up but magnaflow is usually number 3-5. Again: I never said flows 'outperformed' magnaflows, but sound wise they sound 100x better. And most 6ers want sound over 3hp. Quit trying.

youre full of shit dude. i have quoted and proved you wrong several times. only brought it up again now because the thread was bumped and i dont want your misinformation being spread...

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by shadow5403 not to even further continue this argument, but i would like to see numbers with competing exhaust companies.

search a couple pages back. i posted a few (MM&FF, other reputable testers) tests and out of the 17 leading mufflers, flowmaster came in 16th, magnaflow came in 4 or 5 in that one behind a cutout race muffler made by warlock and then a couple other high-end mufflers. the only muffler to perform worse than flowmaster was the number 1-2 muffler with the cutout in place so it was more restrictive.

i also have posted the high-flow cat comparison where magnaflow is by far #1 in flow

[SSStang]

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99 a lot of guys go with mac long tubes and mac short off road H pipe. then they get the muffler in the catback of their choice. though magnaflow outperforms all other mufflers on the market, it is only by a narrow margin. i did choose to get magnaflow magnapacks, and it is loud- very loud. but flowmaster mufflers (as well as other chambered mufflers) will offer a different note.

Read the underlined statement.

The results in HP order:
1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No muffs 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq

You said Magnaflow "outperforms all other mufflers", if this were the truth it would be #1 not #5.

[AtlanticBlue99]

here is the thread Headers Quick Question?

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by SSStang Read the underlined statement. The results in HP order: 1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq 2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq 3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq 4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq 5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq 6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq 7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq 8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq 9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq 10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq 11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq 12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq 13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq 14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq 15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq 16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq 17.No muffs 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq You said Magnaflow "outperforms all other mufflers", if this were the truth it would be #1 not #5.

thats one test. i posted others before where they have been number one. magnaflow has tests linked on their site that show this too.

also, you will notice the number 1 muffler is also the last place muffler (when closed), so essentially, flowmaster is the worst performing muffler on the market