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Old December 23rd, 2007, 10:30 PM   #1
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Potential problems/issues with engine swap


Thinking about going with a with a 5.0 or Windsor stroker in my 01 V6 stang. I am aware of the basics in an engine swap but I was a Chevy guy back in the day so I don't have all the answers when it comes to Ford. Will I be able to use the AOD tranny with the older V8 or will I have to get another and how about the basics like engine mounts and power steering. If I was building just a strip car the steering/brakes wouldn't be much of an issue but I would like to keep it as a nearly everyday driver. Thanks for any input provided...
 

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Old December 23rd, 2007, 10:38 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forums!!!!!! everyone here is a bigger help than i had ever initially realized.

i was gonna do the swap to a 4.6 but then i realize with a bigger engine your gonna need that new radiator, the v6 brake booster is huge and in the way so your gonna have to switch to that one, relocating the coolant resovoir and all, in the end i thought it simpler to sell the 4.6 i already had for more than i bought it for and mod out the six with all that money....which i did. proud of it to,
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Dont swap you need a lot of things to get a V8 in. Its better buying a GT or a Fox(unless u find the parts and labor for free).

Get a 4.3 stroker kit for your motor it would be easier and cheaper
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Originally Posted by El_Cangri View Post
Dont swap you need a lot of things to get a V8 in. Its better buying a GT or a Fox(unless u find the parts and labor for free).

Get a 4.3 stroker kit for your motor it would be easier and cheaper
muct easier, you basically just drop it in and you would find yourself spending less money for a new motor then you would for a used one with almost the same HP
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a good built 4.3 can give u up to 260-290

idk.. i need to rebuilt the motor here but idk.. should i stroke it?

but if i maintain it 3.8 i can handle more boost than the 4.3 couldnt I?
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Originally Posted by El_Cangri View Post
a good built 4.3 can give u up to 260-290

idk.. i need to rebuilt the motor here but idk.. should i stroke it?

but if i maintain it 3.8 i can handle more boost than the 4.3 couldnt I?
depends. a 4.3 is going to have thinner walls then your 3.8. if you plan on going F/I i would go with the 4.2L thats made for f/i applications. with the 4.3L's thinner walls i wouldnt feel safe running to much PSI, go with the 4.2L
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hmm F-150 rebuilt then...
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Originally Posted by El_Cangri View Post
hmm F-150 rebuilt then...
or i know that ssms has one that is f/i ready. let me go find it
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nevermind apparently i was wrong. on the website it claims the longblock 4.3 can take 20psi supercharged or a 200shot and is rated for 550 hp+

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http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...Shotblocks.pdf
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well.. i would get it but since i live 1k miles away shipping will almost double the price
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a 5.0 will "drop in" but it wont work... you will have to swap almost everything that makes your car different then the V8s EXCEPT the K member...

The AOD will work... from what i remember that is the tranny that was originally in the old SN95 5.0s

Also you will want to upgrade your rear end... either go to an 8.8 or an after market ring pinion and carrier as they are pretty strong
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a 5.0 will "drop in" but it wont work... you will have to swap almost everything that makes your car different then the V8s EXCEPT the K member...

The AOD will work... from what i remember that is the tranny that was originally in the old SN95 5.0s

Also you will want to upgrade your rear end... either go to an 8.8 or an after market ring pinion and carrier as they are pretty strong

Thanks for the input! Using the AOD would make the rear gear selection much easier .
 
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The AOD will work for a 95 5.0 but if your going to a 351 (which IMO would be most worth it) you will need a tranny. However the 351 drop isnt very difficult in the v6 saleen did it in the 97-99 s-351's and all of the original chassis were v6's. you will probably want to get a tranny and a nice rearend for any swap from the 6 though.
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Originally Posted by El_Cangri View Post
Dont swap you need a lot of things to get a V8 in. Its better buying a GT or a Fox(unless u find the parts and labor for free).

Get a 4.3 stroker kit for your motor it would be easier and cheaper

I have an 83 fox with a 306/5 speed in it already! I just want to have a SN95 body with a naturally aspirated non-modular V8 in it with a goal of high 10's or 11's when it's all said and done! I know I can get there with my fox but I really like my 01 body style. My labor will be free as myself and my fellow racing buddy do everything ourselves minus machine work...
 
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The AOD will work for a 95 5.0 but if your going to a 351 (which IMO would be most worth it) you will need a tranny. However the 351 drop isnt very difficult in the v6 saleen did it in the 97-99 s-351's and all of the original chassis were v6's. you will probably want to get a tranny and a nice rearend for any swap from the 6 though.

Thanks! That makes sense, I am leaning towards a 351 because of the inches and if I have to start from scratch, might as well go big. I see you are from NC. I am a NC native as well, Kinston area. Nice to meet ya
 
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Thanks! That makes sense, I am leaning towards a 351 because of the inches and if I have to start from scratch, might as well go big. I see you are from NC. I am a NC native as well, Kinston area. Nice to meet ya
awesome im from the Boone area but i go to school at NC State, nice to meet you too, yeah if your gonna go through with the swap though get the 351 it all fits in to place real easy you'll just need a 5.0 kmember. I was going to do the swap but my dad wanted me to get a newer car for my commute to school
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the only thing is the 351 won't "Drop In" like the 5.0 will... you can use a lot of 5.0 sn95 mustangs parts to make it work in your body... for the 351... you will have to make your own motor mounts and the wiring harness... shoot i don't even know what to tell you about that one... you will have to look to painless performance for that
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the only thing is the 351 won't "Drop In" like the 5.0 will... you can use a lot of 5.0 sn95 mustangs parts to make it work in your body... for the 351... you will have to make your own motor mounts and the wiring harness... shoot i don't even know what to tell you about that one... you will have to look to painless performance for that
351 fits on the 5.0 mounts for the pre 94 5.0's, you'll need new mounts for the 5.0 if it is pre 94 anyway. They sale them though
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4.3L can handle plenty boost and power
564rwhp v6 with a tma single turbo kit off the 4.3L block.

potientially the 3.8 with the supercoupe forged crank can handle more power
but no one has yet to snap the 4.2L crank, or crack the block. there isnt anything to worry about with 3.8-4.3L but more cubes is more power
so 3.8L with 15psi wont make the same power as a 4.2L with 15psi
assuming that the heads, cam and intake are similar as well as other turbo or s/c components to make the 15psi
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4.3L can handle plenty boost and power
564rwhp v6 with a tma single turbo kit off the 4.3L block.
how many times did you study to remember those numbers?


so a 5.0 swap is as simple as a 94-95 k-member than getting all the wiring and engine tranny for the swap? and the 8.8" if you feel you need it? seems fairly cheap than
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